It's Time to Take a Stand!
Dycey Farley
Admin ignored the pleas of the eSouth African players until yet another country was overtaken by dishonest players and their multis.
As long as the greedy bastards who are marketing this game have a good bottom line, they don't care about cheating or presenting a game that doesn't work well. Because they're completely greed-driven, however, they have a couple vulnerabilities. I suggest the following:
1. Tell the truth wherever you can ... game blogs, forums, facebook, everywhere they may represent themselves as a well-run organization. Tell the truth - we don't have to be dishonest in order to show potential players the kind of game this is. Create an eRep Sucks page and get people to join ... find alternate games to which we can migrate and continue the communities we've formed and share information about them.
2. Contact advertisers. When you go to the sign-in page, you'll see outside advertisers. Write to them. Let them know about the bad experiences and poor management you're experiencing in eRep. Let them know you'll not support their companies or purchase their products if they insist on helping a poorly run enterprise.
3. Don't spend a penny on this game. Screw Admin - they don't deserve a single penny of our money.
4. Report every bug as High priority. There's a lag in signing in? Send a ticket. Shouts don't work? Send a ticket. Overwhelm the system - they won't do anything anyway; but we'll have documented the number of issues and that they were reported. That will look good in an article.
5. Speaking of media ... contact tech and gaming magazines. Write letters to editors and offer to write articles. It's time the truth was told and who better to tell it than the players?
Finally ... and I can't believe I'm saying this ... Maybe it's time EDEN started fighting fire with fire. Maybe we need to CHEAT as well. This isn't just to even the playing field, I have an idea that might get results ...
I remember a play about cheating in congress ... a young representative was sickened by the back room dealings and dishonesty. In order to expose it, he made as many crooked deals as he could ... he caused all of the trouble that he could and allowed as many disreputable politicians as wanted to access to the bill he was proposing. He created a house of cards that did, indeed, collapse on itself.
Perhaps it's time EDEN players accepted the rules by which Admin allows others to play and jumped on the bandwagon. Maybe we should all download TOR and learn how to use it, farming multis and using them to gather gold, sway elections and to make sure our articles dominate the media. Find friends or businesses where we can log on and farm accounts. I suggest this, not to approve of cheating, but to speed the certain collapse of the eRep house of cards. If we force that, we may also force the necessity for action to be taken.
We've tried and tried to appeal to Admin's sense of fairness. I think we're all realizing they lack that admirable attribute. Maybe it's time to try another tactic.
Comments
Hear Hear!
I understand your feelings. I don't personally agree with the strategy of fighting cheating with cheating however. It diminishes me and I choose not to do that.
The ultimate sanction is to find another game.
Right now, I'm going to stick around however.
lets burn this place down
This is not a game of player Vs. Player, but a game of Player. Vs. Admin!
I don't believe that the PTO was entirely up to cheating (I won't rule that out, but cannot necessarily agree with it).
The Hungarians did two things eSouth Africans could never get right:
1. Create a mini baby-boom.
2. Work together as a single cohesive unit.
Well
if you live in a third world country with sucky game like this one, you are only prone to cheat at least once or twice or endless times in your eLife.
I'm not so sure about that mini baby boom ... Yes it occurred and yes it was "created" but I've looked at way too many accounts that aren't employed and only seem to become involved on voting day. It's a clever ploy, yes, but I find it highly suspicious.
😁^ That's me - Sorry, I forgot I was on my org.
You need to realize that a lot of these RL third-worlders see people from places like Canada, USA, & western Europe as having the unfair advantage of being privileged. They use this mindset to justify cheating to themselves.
Lowering your ethical standards will only throw more gas onto the fire and give them even more self-righteous reasons to cheat.
That being said, I'm going to sit in front of my 80" plasma HDTV with a 1/2 pound cheeseburger while my laptop idles my 10Mbps connection, meanwhile they sit in their Borat-shacks eating a half of a turnip and plucking their unibrows.
Agreed Dycey - some of it is highly suspicious, but we don't have too much proof.
And with regards to the arguments about being 3rd world country that cheat. RL South Africa is third world - I am from there - I don't cheat. I only have a 48" plasma HDTV and I only have a 4Mbps connection and I only eat 1/4 pound cheeseburgers.
haha vNations has got some potential everyone migrate there its still in BETA but its not THAT bad still a bit dicey cause like i said its in BETA but at least the Admins actually LISTEN......
vNations was created by a highly unscrupulous eRep player - I don't want to add to his coffers. eJahan has its problems, but I'm starting to spend more time playing it, I must admit.
I don't have a plasma TV and can't afford a cheeseburger. How did I miss out? lol!
USA is a third world country too. Now a days we can only afford 1/2 pounders and 8oz beers :'( It is sad. I even had to downgrade my 72'' Plasma 600hz 1080p Samsung for a 50'' 1080p 120hz Sony. hard times for us too. Must we cheat? idk.
Voted.
voted hard. Get the cheating bastards.
i have been speaking with my wallet for over 6 months. i used to regularly buy gold in this game and i finally got fed up with the attitude of the game developers and decided to spend my money elsewhere..
I agree fully with this. Down with eRepublik!
I have given this sort of feeling a lot of thought over time. The best answer I have been able to come up with is "I do not allow others to trick me into giving away my integrity".
At the end of the day, you have to decide that it's more important for you to play honestly than it is to "win" some stupid little distraction on the internet. Anyone who would cheat to win here, wow, I almost feel sorry for them, it must be hard going through life that small. I put a lot of it down to just plain immaturity, it's not easy being a young man.
Anyway, stick to the high road, is my counsel.
I agree with the sentiments, and most of the solutions presented here. In particular, I believe points #2 and #3 will be the most effective. As a small business owner IRL, I can tell you that what will get the admin's attention is a hit to their bottom line. If we contact their customers and refuse to spend our own money on the game, we pressure them directly and immediately. If those options gained traction amongst the players, the admins will have no choice but to acquiesce to the players' demands, assuming they are interested in keeping their company afloat.
In response to your final point, however, I'd rather play honestly and lose, than to cheat and win. I think it is the wrong way to go and I strongly suspect the majority of eCanadians wouldn't undertake this action anyhow.
Vote, vote, vote, vote you got a mo-fukkin vote.
Agree completely, tear this place down. xD
I'm considering making multis to vote more times lul.
(but I wont seeing as I quit a while ago but I'm still around for articles and to vote for pplz, banned/multi players voting for people I want to vote for would probably make the person I'm voting for get banned themselves, which I obviously don't want to see happen. 🙁 )
i honestly don't think they have more then 1 or 2 English speaking admins. I think thats where the problem lies.
The game is essential unmoderated right now.
A large number of people seem to be realizing this, because cheating appears to be growing on an exponential scale.
I can't help but notice Poland's population is suddenly sky-rocketing again (hmmm) and companies like this:
http://economy.erepublik.com/en/company/zbieramy/241282">http://economy.erepublik.com/en/company/[..]1282
(yes there are about 3000 multies working there daily)
are cheating on a massive scale.
If the Admins don't get it under control, its going to be chaos.
In the end, I just can't get mad about it anymore - its too bad but also kind of interesting to watch how it all unfolds.
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Esteban, I love you more each day! 🙂
Go Dycey 😃
"a play about cheating in congress ... a young representative was sickened by the back room dealings and dishonesty. In order to expose it, he made as many crooked deals as he could "
that wasn't a play, it was called the USA stimulus bill which was supposed to prevent high unemployment
also, I am in the USA, with a $300 laptop, a 12 year tube tv, and the only cheeseburger i ever see is occasionally from the dollar menu from wendys or burger king. I have naughty dreams about affording a fuddruckers 1 lb burger, but its been a long time, before they closed half their stores🙁
Ladies and gentlemen: Tor proxy.
Just a few things:
1) I don't agree with fighting cheating by cheating ourselves
2) If you do decided to 'report' eRep to all their advertisers, I suggest you DON'T click on the ad directly...try to find the company homepage through Google or Bing or any other search engine. Clicking on the ad that appears on any eRepublik page ends up giving a little bit of money to eRep...something we want to avoid as much as possible.
Not sure we need to start cheating to get the point across. But I know perfectly why you would like to resort to that now.
Voted for screwing Erepublik, not so much for cheating though. Either way, nice article ; )
As hb741 says, eRep has become the new Wild West and the eRep development team shot the sheriff a couple days after the release of V2.
I agree we should take a stand and let the poor state of eRep be known. Cheating may be a fine threat, but not one worth following through on.
I totally agree that we should let it be known how shitty a game erep has become so others do not get suckered in this. Let the mob rule and show those fuckin admins that we want change
EDEN has done it's fair share of cheating to be sure, but as far as PTO's go PENIX, and the Indocheats in particular, are the worst culprits. It makes me sick. But I would never want to resort to using their tactics - we're better than that.
Sure, the only way to beat cheaters is to beat them at their own game. You have to play by their rules otherwise they're going to keep on re-writing the rules to suit them. The Admin don't care.
Frankly, and this is my own opinion, I think the Admin are all Eastern Europeans who grew up under Communism. They have two things stuck in their minds. One, obviously and people have been saying this over and over again, is make as much money as you can because our parents weren't allowed to. The other is that they're so used to seeing a corrupt system that they think nothing about corrupt systems being set up in eRep. So what people cheat, they manipulate the media, and they do all sorts of things that make a mockery of democracy. That's true to life! At least it is where the Admin are coming from. I bet they're all really @😵*ing proud they've created a corrupt system that exactly mimics the real world they grew up in.
But in all honestly, I think if you don't like it, then don't put up with it. The only really honest way to protest the changes is to vote with your feet. Don't be petty and rage quit, just walk away. The most wonderful thing about the Internet is there are plenty of other ways to waste your time. Don't waste your time doing something that doesn't make you happy anymore.
eRepublik needs more rage.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eusa-lacks-responsibility--1468098/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eusa[..]/1/20
I was kind of expecting my new country to be PTOed by the fail cheaters. I'm really starting to not care, lol my boss is from Argentina
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-can-a-single-player-destroy-erepublik-economy-1466999/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-[..]/1/20
EDEN already cheats silly, their eUkrainian supporters already were using multies.
Don't think that EDEN is some guardian that protects the world, they are worse than pheonix in my opinion.
let's all get multis and become millionaries
It's not only eSouth Africa, but:
-eThailand was/might be PTO'd by Croatian Players
-eMalaysia's Congress is more than half serbian
-Australia was PTO'd by Indonesia
I'm sure there are more. It's disgusting.
Pomp die blêrrie donners. As hulle nie wil hoor nie, moet hulle voel!!
Hulle's in die sop in. ha!
Ja, hulle moet 'n slaggie wys raak my broe, of anders kan hulle vokkof met hulle k@k game.
Lets look at the PTO's we supported through history, then lets make the correlation between our impending doom and that.
I would just like to say that #2 isn't really possible. Erep uses Google Adsense and the ads are placed on the page by random (well, kinda)
Good gawds! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETS AYE REEEEEVOLETE!!!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAH!!!
I don't care enough about this game to try and bring it down. Soon I'll quit because it just ain't fun (that's the best way to get even; turn your back)but, for now, I'll stick around.
I liked the good old days when...wait...I've only been on here for a month. But yeah! Fuck the fucking fuckers!
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