I'm tired
JdlF
Tired to try to debate on some point and just get answers like:
-You were a bad country president.
-You were a bad minister of finance.
-You were a threat as bank manager.
Truth is, I'm getting tired of all this.
Someone spied into ATO mass-mp to give Nohjis this screenshot:
What does it say?
That I could grant me a loan as bank manager. Which is true as bank managers had only to make golds available on demande (just to remember I already had the gold). Did I do that? No because in the context I knew it would be used against me even if legal. But still, I did what was right, waited over 1 month and half because NLSP did everything to not granting me that loan ; and I am still harassed with that.
I even throw away my bank manager powers without asking too much (and that was a disrepect from NLSP as bank managers were meant to remain the same - right now bank managers are just random accounts. Next congress should disband it as fast as possible [anyway NLSP emptied them]).
Quite funny fact is... We debate on a given topic and some from NLSP's friends come off-topic by questioning my skills about cp, mof or bm...
It's unrelated. It's a bit like you'd say:
-Guys, I've an idea about doing a plane.
-You were a bad country president?
Related? I don't think.
I might be masochist because from time to time I really try to debate. Giving my opinion and such. Of course I disagree with most of government things. But I always argument (or most of the time). And still, we are debating, and still, they just answer I am wrong without any argument and then just throw me a classical: you were bad.
Today BrunoCNd just told me he's leaving eBelgium (maybe he already did, I didn't check). Who is next?
Today I was told by Nohjis that I had to split responsability about this wipe and that I should help as much as I can. Sad thing is: I do help. You all know I am now in a two-click mode, meaning that I don't often connect - but I can connect long from time to time. And still I make some supplying for ABC. I do help, really. I just don't agree with the policies but I follow them. I follow the rules.
But I am tired nowadays. Fighting for nothing. Getting stupid answers. No debates and such.
Yannis/Chihiroh is making a wonderful job. She is helping every new citizen. But she is bullied by Nohjis in comments. And that, I cannot stand... I don't want to start in a frenzy mode. But please. Do realize there are humain beings behind avatars.
Be happy you are good with imposing your views. You won, for 4 months. Just stop the harrassement. I start being tired and I would like real debates and not just pushing peoples.
You will say I did. Fact is ... I did not start. But I am ok to end this right now.
But I already know the answer. I was a bad CP, a bad MoF and a bad BM.
Thanks for reading,
JdlF.
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But please. Do realize there are humain beings behind avatars. x2
(and that goes for ALL sides!)
Oh, and JdlF: I don't care how much tired you are of everything, just DON'T DARE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
Really, I will haunt you 'till eternity.
And if that isn't bad enough, I'll make Yannis/Chihiroh haunt you 'till eternity. You're warned...
Take care about your last sentence. I could like it \o/.
Nah I won't leave the country yet. Even if I thought about. But right now it's not the time. Even being 2clicking is more helpfull for eBE than leaving it.
And I don't see why Tony Clifford is doing in ATO mass PM.
He's not even a citizen and he keeps stirring shit up
do you want to rule also in party internal politics?
"Yannis/Chihiroh is making a wonderful job. She is helping every new citizen. But she is bullied by Nohjis in comments. And that, I cannot stand"
if you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen, if you make critical comment you can expect criticism back, this goes for you, Yannis and other who criticize government and people in government themselves. I dislike people who (just like real life US Republicans) criticize government but when you criticize they go into the victim role.
If you can't take criticism then don't criticize others because you can expect it back, that's common sense not bullying or whatever you want to call it.
Except women can't be kept out of the kitchen. It's the only place they're good at
Hue hue hue hue hue
Valeyard, are you able to understand that there are valuable criticism and other that aren't.
If, as JDLF says, criticisms are unrelated, you can't defend them.
Some criticism are good to be said and heard, some are not (because irrelevant, or made to hurt somebody, to troll, to change subject and to distract attention to something else, ...). You can't just defend "criticism" as a whole concept, it's much more subtile.
Talking about myself, you have to know the difference between criticizing and questioning. If we can't consider options without people feeling attacked, there is a problem (and THAT is criticism)
Also, there is a difference between criticism and downright insulting people to be stupid naive and arrogant (and I'm not aiming at Nohjis now, in fact Nohjis is quite correct compared to that someone)
I can stand the heat, don't get me wrong. But I'm tired of all unrelatives arguments from your relatives.
After all this is only a game. But I just don't see the point of speaking with most of your relatives.
Nohjis uses slander and insults to scare everyone away from the country, pass it on!
Shadowukcs uses lies to slander people, pass it on!
That's a lie to slander me!
That's a lie to cover up a lie...
shad is a thief making his friends to spend money to pay of in game debts, pass it on
Also: NLSP using dirty legal and backhand legal tactics isn't the first time. It was exactly this behaviour that got him bullied out the first time.
I pity that sort of man. One who uses dirty tactics to block others who wronged him. This is exactly why I see NLSP as the lowest lifeform in the entire community. I have no IRL bad feelings towards anyone in this game. I see it all as good sport and good laughs. I don't take anything here serious. Even konrad and Crit, if confronted with IRL, I'd buy a beer (just like I have occasional drinks with Olv, Jofroi and Procuste IRL in Brussels) and have some laughs. Except NLSP. He's rotten in his core. A sad excuse of a human being.
Jdlf, sometimes some asks me why I don't play the political parts of this game. You've got one of the answers with this article. I come here to play, and politics on eRepublik is not what I personally call "playing".
Yeah I guess I'm quite understanding 😁.
jeiry for cp!
lol
I don't see the point why you are doing such a fuss about people telling you you were a bad CP, and so on. If you can't take criticism, then you are wrong here.
Did I stop playing afer my CP term when everyone told me I was a bad CP ? (and some still do tell me that) No, I'm still playing. Yes, in the beginning I cared about it, and I did not find it very nice but I understood that they were right. I did a lot of stupid things, and made a lot of mistakes. So, now I agree I was a bad CP, maybe not the worst, but one of them.
I can take criticisms man. But why should I debate with people going personal when debating on given topics?
As I've said, it's not about debating weither or not I was good or bad. It is about debating on different topics unrelated with the fact I was either good or bad.
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It is all because of this depressing weather outside. Don't worry, it's just temporary feeling.
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You keep asking for it Kalimero, making an example of the things you've done, continually bringing state money and Bank Managers into the debate. When you bring something up people are entitled to reply. I see you didn't read any part of the debate because apparently arguments you don't agree with aren't arguments.
The screenshot shows you're corrupt because your personal interests take priority over the nation's interests. Anyhow, soon you will have the majority in eBe with all the other people leaving, then you can unwipe; unless ofcourse you keep invalidating your opinion by electing other people who defend the wipe to complain at.
I've read all debates. I even debated kindly with you on the forum.
Up to the point you sai😛 you are bad. Ok, nothing to argument on. Why should I bother?
Why do I bring economy and banks? Because you defend yourselves by saying "money was a risk" and "we don't need money". Sorry but all I see are programs closures. So yes, direclty related to such points.
And for the Calimero style, it is intended, obviously. I'm tired. I asked for a stop and the possibility of debating without coming back on "you're bad". But you refuse.
So why should I bother?
You don't put yourself into question because hey, JdlF can't be wrong. Because, being selfish in a community game is the best thing ever.
Try to excuse yourself to the people (no, not me) you attacked personally before attempting this style. I don't regret paying you back with the same kindness you give to other people. You have started with slandering both NLSP and MaryamQ and have been doing so for months now. Well, now you know how it feels, no fun is it ?
I no longer have an emotional attachment to the eBelgian state and I'm far beyond being interested in any political role inside eRepublik, I have more fun things to do in game. I'm happy most of my friends moved away from the dirty state of eBelgium and in time, they will settle abroad and have fun and interesting eLives in other communities where putting in hard work is actually valued.
I never attacked MQ on a personal basis. I really liked working with her. All I said was: her CP term was terrible in term of results. And I said why, then moved on.
I didn't attack NLSP on a personal level for month while he was already insulting me because we didn't share same opinions and I was frankly against his way of ruling the country.
If MQ felt offended at a personal level. I will give her my apologies. As I've told her, not later than today, I don't really understand her reaction as we had good relations before NLSP started insulting me.
You see the big difference is here: I tend to not bringing unrelated things into debates. And I tend to not insult at a personal level (after a while, I'm humain, I start answering to). While you just admitted you were going at a personal level with me, regardless of the debate.
I hope you are right and some people are leaving eBelgium for good.
Best regards,
It was not nice speaking with you.
On the day I was born
The nurses all gathered round
And they gazed in wild wonder
At the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up
Said "leave this one alone."
She could tell right away
I was bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone
I broke a thousand hearts
Before I met you
I'll break a thousand more, baby
Before i am through
I wanna be yours, pretty baby
Yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell ya Honey
That i'm bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone
I'll make a rich woman beg
And I'll make a good woman steal
I'll make an old woman blush
And I'll make a young girl squeal
I wanna be yours, pretty baby
Yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell you Honey
That I'm bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone
Now when I walk the streets
Kings and queens step aside
Every woman I meet
They all stay satisfied.
I wanna tell ya, pretty baby
What I see I make my own.
And I'm here to tell ya, Honey
That I'm bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone
you ok? :/
couldn't have been bader
Most of you think you play in politics while you don't even know what real politics is.
Keep crying and real politicians will wipe the floor with you.
again I wish eBelgium good luck! Time to really proof yourself now.
o7
Yeah I understood that's the actual spirit \o/. But to be honest, I'm not crying. Just tired.