Government Lies?
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by Flamur
Some may be aware that recently, GloriousFailure resigned from his position as MoFA. This came shortly after accusations were made about lies to congress and/or the public. I won’t go into much detail about that, as I don’t want to be accused of leaking anything. But one issue that has been heavily discussed in congress is Alliances. One thing that I think is safe to say, is that Fortis was something that wasn’t favoured by many, due to mainly it having a weighted voting system. This was no secret. Below, there’s a link to logs that show you how our government (Represented by Kumnaa, Hassan and GF) were perfectly happy with the system.
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgc6tq9n_1hmqvq5hr
Now obviously, it’s a long log, so I’d like to highlight a few points. We have slightly filtered areas by getting rid of minor sentences that were part of the discussion, but unrelated to the question.
(Hassan-) Couldnt we tweak it to have Ireland 2 votes as well?
(Hassan-) So UK/Ire/Can have the same votes?
(HarrisonRichardson) UK - approve?
(Glorious_Failure[UK]) Approve.
(kumnaa[uk]) nope
(kumnaa[uk]) (nope as in no objections)
(Glorious_Failure[UK]) Just a simple question really: With the weighted votes system, will the number of votes be able to be reviewed at a future date?
(marcchelala[CAN]) I would say yes
(HarrisonRichardson) I would propose if a nation suggests we relook at it and another nation seconds the proposal we can relook at them
(Hassan-) I think we should keep as many things as flexible as possible
(HarrisonRichardson) agree with Hassan-
(Glorious_Failure[UK]) Excellent, I'll be a little honest, I was getting a bit worried about it essentially becoming ATLANTIS 2.0
(Hassan-) Yes, we plan to go with you now (Fortis)
(Derakor) But the possibility of you being in PEACE is there somewhere.
(Hassan-) Not really anymore
(Hassan-) The Government has now decided to go for Fortis
The above can clearly show that our government not only approved of the system, but also seemed happy with it.
So what happens next? More to follow, should congress allow it.
- Flamur.
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I was perma-banned from both the forums and IRC without a reason by GloriousFailure, i will be posting a full investigative article into this in a few hours. This is clearly unacceptable behaviour by a MoFA, an admin and ANYBODY in a position of responsability.
I like your style.
frank, see my article.
you're also unbanned from both IRC, and the forums, so QQ less.
the important news is the euk isnt joining PEACE, really - FORTIS FOREVER!
frank i unbanned you, however your behaviour wasn exemplarily either. and make sure oyu dont leak info.
Fortis is a waste of time.
I like your style.
I like your style.
I like your style
On the subject of alliances why aren't we actively trying to join up with other countries who aren't members of alliances? Its probably a stupid question but can I have some sensible answers
There are very few countries in that position, karacticus. Thats one of the main reasons.
Thank Mr Failure for answering. Wouldn't it be good though if those few countries just said "sod you all, we're getting together and if you don't like it- tough". I don't like the way both PEACE and FORTIS are treating the eUk.
Fortis is a waste of time and effort. PEACE is the only sensible option for us at the moment. I am rather concerned to see someone (hassan) that I have a lot of respect for, making such statements that suggest that the govenment will be joining Fortis despite the whitewash vote from the previous congress.
HAHA! Excuse me? WHITEWASH VOTE? You've gotta be kidding me. Why are you posting under an org?
so he doesnt get abused ==-p
but yea fortis is just ATLANITS 2.0 whats the point? ull get just owned again😛
Well, I disagree. But I'll let you have your own opinion on the matter.
Fortis did get beaten in a whitewash vote.
1 vote for, at least 15 against. Get some facts, flamur
I thought he meant about PEACE. My bad.
Oh, and some wonderful selective voting there Flamur. Really, really good lies.
voting = quoting.
Sorry, next time I'll post the whole log and let people decide whether or not they want to read the whole thing.
What you see is what you get. I didn't change anything or take something from the beggining and slap it with the end.
I dislike all your styles
I abstain from liking or disliking anyone in this article's style
Your style sucks.
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owner, pui de dakay!
When you actually read through the logs, you can actually see how you have taken the quotes completely out of context, and changed it to suit your own agenda. Why you seem so intent on breaking the UK with lies and slander, i have no idea, but its a pathetic thing to watch.
GF has destroyed the foreign affairs policy that many ministers took over a year to build up, and he did it in less then a month.
He's been deliberately lying and manipulating congress, abused his admin powers on both IRC and the forums, and has done great damage to the reputation of our country in the face of our allies.
I had access to the Mofa since the first day of it's creation and kept being involved in the mofa for years, until I was fired a week ago by Kumnaa after I was shocked by 15 days of the worst Mofa policy I had ever seen and publicly published it.
Now that he's quit as MoFa I can only say: good riddance. His successor will have his hands full with undoing all the damage from the past.
Shadow: Dohohohoho
voting = boating.