Fear and Loathing in Ireland
Longbaugh
As you might have heard, Poland has decided to put the United Kingdom on its priority list. EDEN has decided to play the same petty politics that they always criticized PEACE for, and it has resulted in an insatiable thirst for British blood. Apparently, this is retaliation for the UK's region swap with France during World War III.
Listen, I make no qualms about my love for this game. I decided on day one that I would stick it out. I moved out of the United States back in July because the country's ideology was riddled with hypocrisy. I will admit, however, that said hypocrisy was largely within a confined medium as I was reacting to sentiments put forth by party leaders, congressmen, et cetera.
Though I wrote numerous articles regarding the then-imminent demise of the United States (and how it was well-deserved), I viewed the war itself as a manner of course-correcting the United States. My conflict was with certain individuals—granted, they were certain powerful individuals, but they were still a small fraction of the population. The initial problem then was that said powerful individuals had so much sway over new citizens that it was depressing. In the following months a cult of Emerick-worship sprung up. It sprung up almost exactly as I was leaving. And, I felt it was dumb and dubious, particularly because it wasn't but a month earlier when Emerick had been living, fighting, and working in PEACE Japan. He's a Diost and, as a Dioist, he always held his American patriotism at arm's length (despite what you younger citizens have been brainwashed to believe). I saw a culture of ideological hypocrisy setting up roots and, as a RL American, I felt frankly disgusted by it.
PEACE GC folded because the Indonesian congress usurped their then-president wizzie_don and opted to try and end the war before Florida was captured (a gesture of good faith to the USA)... which led to the United States reclaiming all of its territories... which led to Indonesia leaving the alliance amidst internal struggles... which led to the ultimate dissolution of PEACE GC. Previous to PEACE's dissolution, ATLANTIS had folded due to its own internal struggles. Now, EDEN carries on the ATLANTIS tradition and Phoenix carries on the PEACE tradition.
Fast forward to now.
Poland has baby-boomed and currently has double the citizens that the second most populated nation (Spain) has. And, they're taking full advantage of their boom; unlike France a few months back. Now they've decided to take the agenda of the United States and Canada upon their own backs by invading the UK, with the ultimate goal of eliminating them from the world map.
In all of this, it's apparent that EDEN is now the world aggressor. More importantly, the United States isn't speaking out against Poland for two reasons. The first reason is that they are part of the same alliance. The second reason is that they fear Poland. They've looked into the metaphorical eyes of Poland's ambition and promise and they've thrown their arms in the air. They've washed their hands (Pontius Pilate-style) of their former ideological high-mindedness and have decided to be the devil's advocate. As a former American, what bothers me about this is that it appears the culture within the United States has indeed worsened; whereas I thought World War III would enlighten them... set them straight, if you will. Because, before PEACE humbled them, they paraded their pomp and circumstance in the world media as if they were untouchable and inherently just... because they were America.
Now, every single morsel of good will they ever built up (defending Greece, Israel, South America, etc.) is gone completely. All of EDEN's good will has been eviscerated because they've sat on their hands and allowed Poland to march through Europe the same way PEACE marched through Asia, Africa, Oceania, and South America. Though, it should be noted that when I joined eRepublik, Romania (ATLANTIS) ruled half the world.
With all of that said I feel the need, as a twice-elected Teachta Dála of Dublin, to declare my firm opposition to Ireland's decision to sit on its hands during this war of aggression. Nevermind that the UK crushed EDEN's boner yesterday by handling Poland like a police officer handles a crying baby. What I'm specifically reacting to is the tone in Ireland following British MoFA GLaDOS' now-deleted article damning Ireland for it's abolishment of the Raleigh Treaty.
I know the Raleigh Treaty was not "official" as admin declared long ago that treaties had to be signed every month by each incoming congress. That does not matter. Too many in Ireland have a misunderstanding of the Brolliance between the United States and Canada. They see it as a choice, but it isn't. It never has been. They have perhaps the strongest alliance in the world. And, it's a defensive alliance. It is not an alliance of choice, but of necessity. This is how Ireland should view the United Kingdom.
Instead of siding with the criminally-insane Padraig_Pearse in his ideological wet dreams of instituting RL politics into eRepublik by conquering Northern Ireland from the UK, Ireland should realize that an alliance with the UK (not necessarily with Phoenix) is also an alliance of necessity. The United Kingdom is to Ireland as the United States is to Canada. They don't need us, but they can use us... and we sure as hell can't afford to back-stab or piss them off. It should also go without saying that Ireland could most definitely use the UK as an ally.
During the last two weeks, Ireland has:
1. Declared conquering Northern Ireland to be a national goal for January.
2. Decided not to help defend the UK against imperialist aggressors.
So, regarding GLaDOS' article, we should all realize that we have no place to complain about his "slip of the tongue." Dish's admission that the UK has no interest in attacking Ireland is obvious (I've been saying as much for a month on the Irish forum). We have no reason to inherently fear the UK. The only reason we have is because we think the UK is as petty as we are and would institute RL politics into this game the same way we do as a congressional and social Irish body. What we should have always feared was upsetting the natural "brolliance" we have with the UK.
Whether Ireland likes it or not, she's in this together with the UK. After all, we do share an island.
And so... I felt the need to voice my opinion—on the main site and not hidden away on a forum. As a Teachta Dála of Dublin, I do not agree with Edana Savage's decision to stay out of the fight between Poland and the United Kingdom. While I understand her motives (she's looking out for Ireland’s sovereignty, which is her duty) I do not agree with the decision itself.
In conclusion, we fully deserve whatever diplomatic/militaristic treatment the United Kingdom deems us worthy of—be it for better or for worse. We have exposed ourselves as being unworthy of an alliance... scared even. And, I do not see such a policy as a building block to a better, stronger Ireland.
No nation ever accomplished anything by being afraid.
Longbaugh's Lounge
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so you slithered over to ireland i see
peace propaganda
😉
@ Donovan
Cute... seriously.
Though it should be noted that Phoenix is headquartered in Glorious Pakistan.
I agree with your opinion, though all these alliances are not in-game truths (EDEN and Phoenix nations war within themselves for region swaps, false wars). Bringing RL things into the game will not sustain a nation, if anything they will make a backlash and reprisal, let's keep our head in the game. The U.K. gave us a Q5 Hospital we have profited more from their friendship than most.
Great article.
Longbaugh, it has been so damn long since I read "PEACE Propaganda" anywhere, I couldn't help it...
I wont try to teach your mom to suck eggs if you know what I mean. You've been around the block a time or two...
I say pick a side and rumble... then pick up the pieces and do it again in a couple months... join the cycle of the *gasp* game... 🙂
I'm a EDEN liker... I was born at the height of PEACE's march across the world.
Cheers
Because Indonesia invading Malaysia is completely on the same level as EDEN counter-attacking a couple nations
Yawn more of the same
Good article
@ Moot
So what you're saying is that EDEN is no better than PEACE?
@ tdwester
You're still keeping up on me? I'm flattered. I haven't thought about you in months!
Because Indonesia invading Malaysia is completely on the same level as EDEN counter-attacking a couple nations [x2]
Excellent opinion, as always.
Nice article
Thanks for the support Longbaugh. Also, if people want to complain about Indonesia, shouldn't they be invading it and not the UK? 😉
@ Mahmoud Ibn Abdullah
An excellent point. But, logic has no place in the minds of those always looking to get even.
moomood abudooblah
I dont even understand your misunderstanding
Indonesia -> Malaysia
PEACE verse neutrality , aggressor PEACE
Poland -> UK
EDEN verse PEACE , aggressor PEACE
Longbaugh:
When you left the US you criticized its leadership and said we deserved invasion. Now the UK faces that same fate. They betrayed innocent old Canada, usurped their regions and acted in a derogatory manner towards them.
EDEN is very different from PEACE or Phx. Example the US returned Liaoning to China, and has not asked for it back since then. When Hungary returned Urals I believe it was to the tune of 6000 gold. The US has a standing agreement with India that involves rent, economic aid and PTO protection. Indonesia installed Glados as President of Russia, held WSR long past due and then got gold for it from their "allies".
Unlike PEACE or Phx EDEN is not dominated by one country. Heck our leaders are from two of the smallest countries in EDEN (Sweden and Finland).
Your hypocrisy abounds. This is nothing then an emotional stab at the people who won in the end. The UK leadership lies to its people and is generally just downright brainwashing the UK. I happily wait for your response which will dodge my points, label me and then still fail.
Good thread o/
And you are saying that PEACE vs neutrality = EDEN vs PEACE
so any attack from EDEN is an attack against the free world, yes?
Longbaugh I love how you just assume things in your article, and try to downplay your ejection from America. I also don't see why the Irish have no right to complain, considering the fact that the MoFA of the eUK declared that Ireland would "pay" is not a slight slip of tongue, especially when he made an article about it.
tl;dr version
Longbaugh is butthurt that nobody in the eUSA has ever liked him and now wants to defend his Penix buddies since they're the only people who make you seem somewhat relevanto the game. You might as well go back to Indonesia, the Dying Empire.
Gaius has such an over active imagination, someone should give him ritalin or something.
Gaius, EDEN is no different than any other alliance. Your recent trip to India has proved that- and don't give me that story about how its being "rented" from the Indians. Anyone who's in the know realizes that claim is a cover and that the Indians really had no choice in the matter.
OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THEIR
" Nevermind that the UK crushed EDEN's boner yesterday by handling Poland like a police officer handles a crying baby. "
LOL
I really hope you weren't being serious about that, because if you were, then you are a lot more idiotic then I previously thought.
@ Gaius Julius
You're saying that generous deeds (like returning Liaoning) write blank checks for mimicking your enemies. I know this is how the RL USA works, but is it really how the United States should operate in eRepublik?
To your guesstimation that I dodge points (I never have and never will) I say to you, Mr. President, that you are indeed correct. And, why would I label you? I've said before I think you're on the better side of the United States political spectrum, AND that you were a good president.
All I ask is that you admit that EDEN is no better than PEACE was. You've already admitted as much, I just want you to say it.
Now... feel free to dodge me...
Mahmoud you can ask ANY Indian in the government about the situation. They clearly had a choice. Those choices were:
A: We rent Karnataka, sign MPP, PTO protection
B: We give it back after Indo-Indian contract ends, sign MPP, PTO protection.
THE INDIANS, not EDEN, chose choice A.
@ JeepAmerica
I'm not going to respond to you until you respond to me. For all of those reading this who have no idea what I'm talking about, the link can be found here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/should-we-join-an-alliance--1142791/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/shou[..]1/all
Really? I've heard differently from both Indians and Americans involved in the process. Of course, a simple troll like yourself wouldn't know about that and even if you did you'd deny it.
How is EDEN on par with PEACE/Phoenix?
We don't have top officials getting banned for cheating (BattalGazi is one example of PEACE/Phoenix cheating)
We don't bully our member nations into attacks or DoWs.
We don't bully countries we liberate into paying us for the regions back.
We don't attack neutral countries.
We aren't dominated by a single nation, who can ask for anything by anyone in the alliance at any time and get it, or else they lose MPPs with them.
So, tell me how we are alike Longbaugh? Or are you going to dodge my points as you did to Gaius, who completely called your response.
Longbaugh, I did reply, but on the authors next article since I wanted you to see it.
Mahmoud Ibn Abdullah, it's funny because when you ask these "people" they are usually uninformed citizens of both countries. Usually it takes being part of the government to actually get the full picture of the event.
Which nation is Phoenix dominated by Jeep? If I remember right, Serbia, Hungary, Russia, and Indonesia are roughly equal to each other.
As for EDEN, if the Polish bot- I mean baby- boom is maintained, you will in fact be dominated by a single nation. (I'd argue that the US and Romania currently run the show, but the numerous EDEN snafus recently lead me to believe that EDEN is without any sort of central leadership right now)
BTW sorry for the triple (now quadruple) posting Longbaugh on your paper.
@ Jeep
Apology accepted. But, how is quoting the entire portion of the Phoenix charter regarding the SecGen's duties cherry picking? Unless, of course, I picked all of the cherries...
okay lets just set this straight right now
pheonix = peace - weak/un-useable countries
Oh you're one to speak of "snafus" considering you live in the eUK. Okay then, I'll rephrase that, Phoenix is dominated by four countries. What happens to the 13 other countries? Hmm, let's look at Bulgaria, killed by its alliances land bridge so that Top Dog Serbia could try to get High Iron.
Eh, reading the entire charter together will reveale little tid bits. You get more meaning out of it that way 😛
Longbaugh- Oh, come on. The eUK has enemies. eIreland has friends. The notion of eIreland jumping in to bed with the Brits right now is ridiculous. I'm all in favor of fun and wacky ideas, but don't try to join Eire with the Brits just now.
The last I checked Bulgaria is still on the map.
Nice spin Mahmoud, but they did just lose all of their hospitals and their infrastructure ruined. It could have been avoided, if Serbia didn't want that High Iron so badly...
Those hospitals can easily be replaced, and Romania destroyed them, not Serbia. I'm not sure what you mean by infrastructure though, as hospitals are the only infrastructure other than worthless defense systems.
@ Jeep
I invite you to quote those "tidbits" the same way I quoted the duties of the Secretary General. Though, I'll understand if you choose not to.
Romania destroyed them, but didn't have to go through any regions to get them because of the land bridge. Sure, they can be replaced, but I wonder how much money Bulgaria has lost from it's economy being ruined and it's babies having no home. Maybe if Phoenix actually put up a fight for it...
Longbaugh, I'm going to do that tomorrow because it's 1:17am and I was just about to quit arguing for the night any way 😛
*last comment of the night*
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XD
The fact that Bulgaria still exists (as well as Turkey) shows that Phoenix put up a fight. 😉
actually Serbia just RW'd bulgaria back on the map. fail abdul
What about Germany? One EDEN country VS the whole Phoenix elite. Did they put up a fight them Mamahmanam Abodooallah? No. Why? Cause Germany has no value to the top 4 Phoenix countries.
My favorite part was when a Irish CONGRESSMAN stated that Ireland deserves militaristic treatment from the UK.
I read THAT part three times...
I think you may not understand the relationship between Eire/UK as well as you believe.
We don't 'share an island' with UK. We have a large common border.
Tactically speaking it serves the UK's interests far better that we remain a neutral country EDEN refuses to attack.
But perhaps I'm biased being of the neutral camp (or as we like to think of it 'the lets not lose all our s*** camp').
I cannot believe someone hasn't pointed out that your pic displays Ireland without the northern border. I bet some of our more 'enthusiastic' citizens were so disappointed at the content of the article that followed😁
We DO share an Island, IE the island of Ireland itself. 😉
i love how abdul just ignored me.