eRomanian Invasion in Russia [Official Statement]
eRomanian Embassy in Norway
Dear Citizens of Norway,
Recent days have brought spectacular events very close to the Norwegian borders, which led to a lot of dubious speculations in the media. It is time to shed some light upon recent events and to make our actions both intelligible to you and acceptable by you.
While you have been trying to build up relations with Russia, we all have experienced several slights from the Russians. As you all know Russia started their resistance without clearance from Norway, and then continued to seek out aid to actively work against Norway during your agreed ceasefire. We have STRONG reasons to believe (from BOTH Norwegian and Romanian Intel) that recent coup attempts in Norway were help along by the Russians, in an attempt to overthrow pro-ATLANTIS administrations. Russia is clearly tending towards deliberately ignoring previous agreements with Norway and has plans of aligning themselves with PEACE to reclaim former territories. Every day Russia becomes more unstable and hostile towards us all.
The Russians have been warned that the generousity of Norway through the high level of resources present in their country would put them in danger, yet they have arrogantly dismissed this in the past. On the other hand, Romania, which has insured about 40% of the TOTAL DAMAGE inflicted by ATLANTIS in the last wars, is a country lacking both resources (we have only Grain and Iron) and consecutively high Gold reserves. We have always given whatever was asked from us, not asking for any aid or compensation, and we shall carry on doing that.
Nevertheless, it is unacceptable for us to see that valuable resources are sliding toward PEACE, while we struggle to keep up the dominance of ATLANTIS with greater and greater costs. In this respect, we have decided to follow-up 2 objectives:
1. Securing valuable resources for Romania AND for Atlantis (which will keep the high damage from our side flowing and our army strong and properly funded), by PRESERVING Russia as an independent country (it is not our intention to wipe out Russia).
2. Creating a direct border between Romania and PEACE, while we have the necessary strength to deal with such a potential far eastern front.
I would like to thank Norway for its neutrality in this dispute, and to guarantee 2 VERY IMPORTANT things:
A. By no means will Norwegian interest be affected in any way by our actions, we will definitely pay great respect to Norway and its citizens.
B. We owe you one for this demonstration of friendship (friendship which is already historical, from Forconin to Salve). And trust, us, this means a lot.
Many thanks for you patience and confidence. Both are important in order for you to see beyond the necessities of war tactics and to focus on the more distant, but important, goal.
dsalageanu
eRomanian Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Comments
true...
"Nevertheless, it is unacceptable for us to see that valuable resources are sliding toward PEACE,"
Was it true that Russia applied to Atlantis, as per agreement with Norway and that Romania did not allow this? Because in that case this whole point is - well, how should I say it diplomatically - questionable.
false...
Russia dangerous ??? Russia reborn 1-2 week ago....
Think about it
tlantis is a conservative structure. Croatia, with the highest population growth, reaching 2600, had a hard time getting the acceptance (officially it isn't accepted yet), it is of course a long shot for Russia, with less than 200 authentic russians and with a dubious Congress structure to get into Atlantis...
@Quicksilver: this is not true, Romania did not oppose to the admittance of Russia into ATLANTIS.
good initiative! Things should be clarified!
dsalageanu: They had a signed agreement with Norway, saying MPP and eventually Atlantis. That means you and your actions pushed Russia towards PEACE. At the very least away from Atlantis. So, this one as a reason for war is far-fetched.
Alex Craciun: Then only your actions did. I stand corrected.
@Quicksilver: a country that is part of ATLANTIS can not have an agreement with a third party concerning the admittance in ATLANTIS, it's not valid without the consent of all the countries that are part of our alliance and such an agreement was never discussed within ATLANTIS.
"As you all know Russia started their resistance without clearance from Norway"
Khmm...nemeiah is not Russia, not even a Russian. He is Romanian so I think this sentence was meant to be a joke, am I right?
"8. Russia is to join ATLANTIS and sign Mutual Protection Pacts with Norway (and whichever nation it may concern) in exchange for protection against foreign aggression in the form of either war or internal political takeovers. This pact is subject to termination or continuation two months after independence."
Now I wasn't even here when it was signed, and admittedly I am not privy to Atlantis insider workings. So Atlantis works like you dictate the rules and others have a right to follow these - or else?
I am sorry if I am not diplomatic enough in my wording, I am new to this.
ahahahahahahahahahah
@shaok: it is about the real start of the RWs in Russia, not Moscow which wasn't the first.
@quicksilver: you're not reading the right treaty, the treaty that you should read is the treaty of ATLANTIS.
Let me give you an example, if I will sign tomorrow, in behalf of Romania, a contract with Indonesia for admitting them into ATLANTIS, without having a vote inside the alliance... the contract between Romania and Indonesia would not be valid.
"We have STRONG reasons to believe (from BOTH Norwegian and Romanian Intel) that recent coup attempts in Norway were help along by the Russians, in an attempt to overthrow pro-ATLANTIS administrations."
This may be the most interesting part of the whole article. We've heard some of the same ourselves, but noone has got any evidence yet. If you have evidence, or at least some leading clues, it would be great if we could work on this together to find out if this is reality. If it is, it makes the situation a bit different. Not completely different, but a bit.
@Alex Craciun, @heivoll
Sure Moscow wasn't the first. But in the current situation it's the only RW worth talking about as it opened the front. Well it's true that that the attack is allowed by international (or Atlantis) agreements but it is at least morally questionable as it seems that Romania is getting regions directly from Norway with this action.
@heivoll
I can't help you about this attempts as I don't know what really happened. But be aware of nationalities as some Romanians tend to give themselves out as a member of any other nation - as seen in the recent happenings.
"A. By no means will Norwegian interest be affected in any way by our actions, we will definitely pay great respect to Norway and its citizens."
sure you will 😃
ahahahahahahah "best casus" belli ever!!!
for what concern the next, I would like to suggest you something:
- They stink
- I need some iron to build my coffee machine.
- Ops, I wrongly clicked the red button...
- ...
- Freedom means be a part of the romanian lovely and sooo sweety empire
- They agreed because they love us toooooo much
- ecc ecc.
THIS ALL BOXES! ROMANIA WISHES TO ENSLAVE RUSSIA, AND BEHIND THAT AND NORWAY IN CASES NOT OBEDIENCE OF ROMANIA!!!
There is a new goverment in Russia and i am writing here offically that NEW russian will not attempt to do any sabotage actions in Norway and in ATLANTIS if this war will be over with status quo. We would like to take all action to diplomatic view. As said we would like to join ATLANTIS but today we have no other chance but to fight with PEACE help and i swear you that we will get this help from them and even when we are counqered by romanians we will further fight in romania with civilian methods. There will be no peace between romania and Russia till Russia is free.
P.S. There is min. 40 million active internet users in Russian speaking area and we are doin well now with the promotion of the game. We will not forget and forgive romanians what they are doing now. Nothing will be forgotten!
Better to live one minute free than to live the whole live under opression!!
Russia looks to PEACE because Atlantis betrayed us, were are our Slavic Norway brothers to our aid, how can u turn a blind eye to Imperialistic Romania when they supported a coup against the Norway government
what coup against norway government are you dreaming about sarak vosk?
@Mossad, maybe you're right and we will at some point in the future be surpassed by eRussia in terms of demography. That won't change a thing, we'll still fight, and if you'll counquer us, it would be the same, cuz it's a game. (BTW a Romanian game)
PS: It's good to know you're promoting a romanian game in Russia. I'm proud of you!
russia is not involved with PEACE, at least it wasn't in the slightest till romania started a war proposal in their congress..
I was part of the soviet party and involved with the president & government, so I can tell you for sure we were pro atlantis, just anti-capitalistic and imperialistic.
Romania has broken the agreement between Norway and Russia. Now, there is a very great risk that the excellent treaty from November, which guaranteed good valuable resources to both Russia and Norway will be sabotaged. Romania should be "permanently banned" from ATLANTIS.
I really hope that Romania gets beaten extremely hard by both Ukraine and Russia, as well as Moldavia and Hungary in the coming future. They deserve it.
neve'
Plus the group of Russians u blam on a coup are Romanian thugs that also tried to politicaly take over Russia
Alex Craciun: Maybe I am reading a wrong treaty, it is true. After all it was between Russia and Norway, not with you. You just broke it or into it by a pretext that is by all means very weak. I acknowledge that you do comply with the letter of the Atlantis treaty. You just despoil the spirit of it.
heivoll: Yes, that alleged coup-attempt is truly an interesting piece of information - if it has any basis. Righ now the more Romanians try to heap onto Russians, the less I believe them, as it usually the case in scenarios like this, to bring up new and new reasons to justify a course of action. I usually means that either the real reason is still hidden or that the existing ones are mostly make-believe.
"we will definitely pay great respect to Norway and its citizens"
PAY ... So in the last days I was right: Norway "sold" Russia to Romania.
@ empyrion_martyr (BTW a Romanian game) PS:It's good to know you're promoting a romanian game in Russia. I'm proud of you!
Are you proud of your self when saying this ?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/5833
started by a Romanian. Bordering region on West Siberia. Well this is a direct attack against Norwegian territorial integrity but well, who cares - it seems like tho Norwegians don't.
Vegaicm, Oscaracciato: We haven't sold your land to Romania. And we haven't said that we support their actions or agree with them. But Romania is our ally, what can we do, attack them?
@Pusur1993; to make an example from RL, in '41 Stalin and Hitler were very good allies. 'Till the very day German troop crossed the border. Think about before it's too late.
(NB it is not my intention to offend anyone, so I am not putting neither country in relation with one or both the dictators. OK? No flame no offense given)
- Norway returns Russian freedom
- Russia gets freed prematurely by a Romanian, now fighting for Romania
- Russia is denied to join Atlantis
- Romania attacks Russia to get their resources
Are these facts right?
@Vajk Corp: OPPPS I saw the RW now!. LOL now my guess is that just now in the norwegian governemnt people is really to scared to say anything.
I guess they worry that the next communicate of this embassy will be about the Peace take-over that make necessary the Rumenian occupation of OSLO for the good of norwegian people and ATLANTIS. blah blah blah.
ROTFL, sad news for a respected warrior state as this
Romania is a joke, and imperialistic. We have ATLANTIS spy reports with us, we know what they're doing. It's working fine, and let me just say, ATLANTIS is doing exactly what was planned.
Adminia, a strange Country.
@Ombrone: yeah, keep up the good old Propaganda. Eventually, with enough effort, somebody will buy that crap...
"- Norway returns Russian freedom
- Russia gets freed prematurely by a Romanian, now fighting for Romania
- Russia is denied to join Atlantis
- Romania attacks Russia to get their resources"
Are these facts right?
Yes. I was there throughout all negotiations. We asked to remain neutral and were told this was not an option. We then asked to join Atlantis and told that our declaration of independence was illegitimate so we were ineligible. We needed a 4/5 override vote. They did not bother to vote to override showing they had little interest in us. Despite that we remained the course and kept to our end of the deal.
Norway keep in mind they Romania will also take East Siberia a region that was supposed to be permanently yours. This is just a land grab and it is sad to see that Norway is going to sit by and let it happen.
Pusur1993, Russia is _not_ my country. And i'm speaking for myself and not for any country or anybody else.
Are you kidding? Or are you se3rious in what you just wrote?
You let them spit on what you did just a week or two ago (let russian free) without moving a finger, just because "they are your ally"? lol.. and they're taking "your" lands too, right now ( http://www.erepublik.com/en/b[..]/5833 ).. you let them doing anything just because of it? even gain power against your country?
nope, i can't even imagine that someone is such a fool like you're saying you're acting.. i prefer to think that all was pre-determined, in lack of proof against it..
anyway, in case you are honest, that means that eRomania is stabbing on your shoulders..
in both cases, you're giving a poor image of yourselves, in my very very humble opinion..
and sorry if my english is not perfect, i hope i've made myself clear.
Romania will have a year of economical war with Russia from inside.
You will soon realize why Norway wanted to get rid off us.
We will use all Russian money to dump your market. There is no question that Russians can go for a year. The question is can Romanians stand it?
PS: The RW started by Romanians. This not sanctioned with Norway and Russia. Norway this is your last chance not to fall in our eyes.
Sorry if I repost again but let's do some analisys of this "comunicate":
"As you all know Russia started their resistance without clearance from Norway, and then continued to seek out aid to actively work against Norway during your agreed ceasefire. We have STRONG reasons to believe (from BOTH Norwegian and Romanian Intel) that recent coup attempts in Norway were help along by the Russians, in an attempt to overthrow pro-ATLANTIS administrations."
Let's say it's true... but in this case what's the matter with Romania. If Russia tried to take-over Norway (Sic!). Why is not Nowway itself taking care of the vengeance?
"We have always given whatever was asked from us, not asking for any aid or compensation, and we shall carry on doing that."
Ahah! We wanna be compensated, 'cause we worked hard for you... What a lucky coincidence that just happened that Russia was soo bad!
"I would like to thank Norway for its neutrality in this dispute,"
What dispute? We saw the dispute it was between Russia and Norway... so?
Maybe does it means keep out your nose or it will get bloodied? I suppose so.
If this are your allies, you are lucky to have faithful enemies as Peace.
@Ombrone: yeah, keep up the good old Propaganda. Eventually, with enough effort, somebody will buy that crap...
Mr Minister of Foreign Affairs, just to clairfy to your reader: when you speak of old Propaganad and crap, do you speak of my post or of your article?
Thanks for you attention and my best regards
Ombrone, what about Italy stilling region from France saying that those are Italian regions in RL?
With you as an ally, I do not need enemies 🙂
The Northern Region really isn't our land, it's Russian land, we wouldn't have kept it for long anyway. And there is a reason, a good reason, for letting Romania take that region.
The land belongs to Russia, not the imperialists! Stop this immedietly Norway!
I thank Han Solo to make me laugh every time I read one of his comment 🙂
@Han Solo. Your minister at least thought before writing its communicate, it make it difficult to read and to interpretate beteween lies, threats, and diplospeach. But you my poor boy: We are still in that regions 'cause are our front to keep Spain busy while France take care of the other invaders.... jeeess Han try to learn to play this game: after six month you should have learned something.
Ombrone, my decrepit oldman (sic) when Italy is stilling gold from India or regions from France you call this strategy. When Romania use good strategy to get things done you call this lies, threats, imperialistic actions and so on.
When PEACE is losing, Bisiacco is start to cry and publish articles like "Shame on you admins", but when the war page is bugged and Atlantis is losing we are saying that Italian army is so great.
So, do something useful and try to learn how to play a game not just this game.
By the way, in South Africa you are doing a humanitary action I suppose. 🙂
blah-blah-blah, we want to secure resources for Romania period.
I am sure Romanians will explain it away but this comes from Atlantis sources, not just a citizen spreading hoaxes aroun😛
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-response-to-the-romanian-russian-war--714653/1