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eAmerican democracy exposed [ N.A.P. issue ]

Day 1,692, 15:36 Published in USA Serbia by Hanibal LA




Day 1692

Dear eRepublikans,

Today I speak not only of American citizens, but to players all over the eWorld, especially the citizens of TERRA and EDEN.

All you're already familiar with the situation about creating of new alliance. All things are more or less known, but you definitely did not know how American leadership do things related to the new alliance.

In fact, until a few days ago, people did not know anything about this issue. It is understandable that these are confidential matters and that we shouldn't go in public inimmediately with unreliable information, but certainly it was necessary to inform some key factors, and allies as well.



However, the Congress, which I am a member of this month, has a different policy. It is clear that we are elected to represent the citizens, but with a question like this one on the table, then the congressmen themselves are not enough. especially since we know the ways in which the majority of congressmen elected. Some bought the votes, while others came there only becouse the elite's only aim was to block other people.

Because of that, in this case we can't talk about democracy anymore. Informed people know that all policies in the United States holds by only one group of players, for a long time. It is the most influicing group in America, leaded by USWP and AMP elite, and clearly they have a major role, but the problem comes in situations when they do not have the final word, like in this case.
Many congressmens are being manipulated, cheated, blackmailed etc. Everybody who don't share their opinion is traitor and PTO-er. Elite using all possible ways to push their option to the end. Like now.



Let me be clear. Few days ago, American Congress,voted for the proposal about eUSA leaving TERRA and joining the new alliance, with narrow majority. The American people about this were not informed! Right ?!

Also, no one knew that the Spanish and Polish presidents have already signed an agreement on a new alliance. They only waited signature of U.S. President and the Brazilians, but they were not even questionalbe.

That means everything is already prepared, planned , and that people did not know anything about that. Why they did all behind their people back, I do not know, but apparently there was a reasons to hide this information from eUSA citizens.




However, there was reasonable people too, who tried to prevent this. First in the presidential election, when called to boycott Evry, the current President, and later in Congress, when a U.S. congressman demanded a new vote on this proposal.

This request was argumentative and had a large support, however, the congressmens who endorse elite did not agree with this. Why, only they know !!! Also We requested a bigger transparency on this issue, that is, to inform citizens about this and to hear their voice too, becouse it is evidental that the citizens are not interested in a new alliance, and against betrayal of old friends and allies.

Obviously, this did not suit them, the USWP and AMP's leaders and Elite, so they asked cancel of this proposal.


I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY UNFOUNDED CLAIMS. MY ASSUMPTION HAD BASIS IN THAT TIME, BUT AFTER THE CONVERSATION WITH IES DIRECTOR, I CONCLUDED I MADE MISTAKE, THEREFORE, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO IES DIRECTOR !!!



I am not only who has encountered obstacles, only because I am against the options that are committed by Elite. They trying to push a story that only foreign congressmens are against this proposal. They manipulate with citizens in all possible ways, but I do not want to watch that.

Most of our allies are declared to be against the new alliance, and that leaving TERRA and alliance with the enemies such as Poland and Spain, mean nothing but betrayal.

Now I ask you, do you want to be traitors?

Do you want to turn back the countries that are our true friends and allies from the beginning.

In contract clearly stays that that most of our allies will be invited to join the alliance, but it was just an idea. what if this ide goes wrong ?!

What if the allies do not like being in the same alliance with our enemies?! Whether we have ever asked for their opinion ?!

Do you know that half of American citizens are from these countries. and they, as citizens of America have full right to say what they have on this issue.

Huge number of influential players have announced that they will leave eUSa and new alliance if America betray her allies. Do you want to lose these players?!

So, say NO to politics led by USWP and APM leaders, or better said eUSA elite! Because that is not fair game and that's not democracy.




Pls just see what Croatians think about this

and rly need to read this. BlasterXl public speaks

And if somebody else have opinions of other allies pls send me, i'll put them here.



I have arguments for all this, but those are confidential documents which i can't publish right now, but if Elite dares me, i will !!!



And just to announce. I recently talked with my voters about the option of proposing the impeachement of the current president. All agree that if they don't change something soon, this option will be proposed and given to vote.



For shout:
eAmerican democrasy exposed [ New Alliance issue ]
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2077790/1/20




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Comments

ZeneFallX
ZeneFallX Day 1,692, 15:39

First as always : 3

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 15:40

love you

PutinPOWER
PutinPOWER Day 1,692, 15:45

v

Talon Karrde
Talon Karrde Day 1,692, 15:50

The butthurt is strong with this one.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,692, 15:56

Voted for the transparency

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 15:59

Bia...that's only im asking for....

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:00

USWP doesn't even have the majority, and yet still, the USWP gets the flak as the villain for some reason. For the record, members of almost major party, except RLC, voted for or against this measure. Some members of the USWP even voted against it. This fear mongering is idiotic at best.

As for your censuring, you broke IES rules twice. The first time you were granted a reprieve, on the grounds that if you broke them again, you would lose access entirely. You did, and you did.

Norbengo
Norbengo Day 1,692, 16:04

Voted for the transparency

x2

Mr_Pornstar
Mr_Pornstar Day 1,692, 16:05

voted

Finway
Finway Day 1,692, 16:06

v

CHRISTIANE.F
CHRISTIANE.F Day 1,692, 16:07

vote !

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:09

@CA USWP alone don't, but with their puppets and marionets they certainly have.

and as i told, there were reaonable ppl too, who see real problem and voted against. and when i say USWP i dont talk about "puppets and marionets", i talk about leadership....

everything is clear when we receive notice, we also get ORDER how to vote !!!

about my censure, i said. i did wrong and im ok with my penalty. but why everybody ignoring when i try to fix things. Longoba answered me once, telling to t

Dodona
Dodona Day 1,692, 16:09

v

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:10

about my censure, i said. i did wrong and im ok with my penalty. but why everybody ignoring when i try to fix things. IES Director answered me once, and told em to talk with SoH...and latter SoH told me talk with IES DIrector !!!

after that, both of them ingore me ?! Why ?! just pls don't tell me they are bussy, cuz im on officials channels all day and know what they do

Ethel Rosenberg
Ethel Rosenberg Day 1,692, 16:13

Voted!!

Misho
Misho Day 1,692, 16:14

Honestly I would like to see new alliances, new raw materials and new regions.

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:18

@Hannibal: If you classify everyone who disagrees with you as a USWP puppet, then obviously the USWP controls everything I guess. Seriously, it's absolutely paranoid when you say all of the AMP, iNCi, and Feds who voted for the proposal are USWP puppets. No one was ordered how to vote, despite what you say.

People are ignoring you because you took your chance and blew it. You already had your second chance with IES, and squandered it. You were warned, and you disregarded it.

AngelluS CAT
AngelluS CAT Day 1,692, 16:23

Treason. Inappropriate word.

Aersidius
Aersidius Day 1,692, 16:26

USWP isn't bad like you want to make it sound. Bad congress people make it into congress a lot. Just because someone seems ok and helps their party you never know exactly what will happen once they are elected. I'm sure your party would have had second thoughts about running you if they'd known you'd disregard IES procedure once elected.

Legolas555
Legolas555 Day 1,692, 16:28

vote

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:29

@CA it's not about me, it's about more important things here.

and don't simlify things. Pls tell me this. every INCI, Fed and AMP congressman get his seat regulary, without USWP voters push ?! is that democracy ?!

Second Nobody of us don't recieve msgs with "voting orders" ?! is that democracy ?!

Asklepije proposed new voting and he had huge support, and mostly USWP and Elite asked cancel of this proposal !! Is that democracy ?!

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:30

we asked referendum, cuz this is most important question in eUSa history..or just bigger transparency...and guess who didnt agree with this....is that democracy ?! having problem with infoming your citizens about huge issue like this one....

Thorin II Oakenshield
Thorin II Oakenshield Day 1,692, 16:31

You have approved some Croatian guy and they will not be our allies anymore... how can you not understand this?!

Alexander Valkor II
Alexander Valkor II Day 1,692, 16:32

Voted!

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:33

@Aersidius..i think same...USWP have great ppl in it...but their leadership don't allow to anybody to say something with which they disagree...thats not democracy !!!!

Artela said in one post..if u cant stand to be true eAmerican congressman, then leave ur seat ?! WTF, who is she to tell me m i or m i not true eUSA congressman, jsut becouse i dont agree with her !!

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:34

@Civil i believe that the IES director's job is to not ignore people , ESPECIALLY CONGRESSMEN

@Hanibal i think u pushed it a little too far with what u said
and u may call them unpatriots , Bonuses suckers but u can't really call the AMP or INCI or the Feds as USWP puppets, and i do believe that a high percentage of them are bonuses suckers

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:37

@Hannibal: Are you seriously suggesting that the USWP also elects AMP, iNCi and Federalist Congressmen? What on earth are you saying?

The proposal Asklepije suggested didn't have huge support, it had the support of the people who voted no on the proposal at first, who lost. You can't just call 'Revote!' every time a vote goes the way you don't want it to.

As we explained and you ignored, you cannot have an accurate referendum without the eRep API. It's literally impossible.

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:37

@Blaster, im AMP member too...puppets are mostly congressmans who gain their seats with USWP help. right ?! Why USWP heliping congressmans from other parties unless they have the benefit of it...right ?!

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:39

btw ... the truth is those voting orders u got, were already approved on in the forums, u first vote on the forums then u vote in-game, so the voting instructions messages u receive aren't really that much of an issue because u already have (in ur case had) the right to vote at the Forums

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:40

@Blaster: It's not the job of the IES director to deal with Congressmen, especially Congressmen that broke the rules twice already. Hannibal was given his second chance, and he broke the rules again, in complete disregard of the procedures, and then tried to claim it was some sort of ploy to get him out of congress.

For reference, you lose access if you brake those rules once. Hannibal is a special exception, and he still learned nothing.

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:41

@CA i was on USWP and AMP channels all day and all night and know what im talking about...if want i can put logs here..

About Asklepie's proposal. understand we have procedure we must respect, but u must agree this is different question. it's not every day that we decide about alliance...also, u must agree that 17-14 result is not enough to show real image and opinion of eUSA citizens !!!

Henry Pfeiffer Arundel
Henry Pfeiffer Arundel Day 1,692, 16:43

ITT: hanibal doesn't get his way so it must be a failure of democracy

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:45

@Ca ofc its IES director's job to deal with every congressman !! Like his job is to give suggestion to SoH to censure me !!!

and u dont see point. ok i messed up, but i have arguments and correct my mistake..isn't that enough to cancel my penalty ?!

and pls, dont talk about my penalty anymore..this is not what we need to talk about !!

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:46

@Civil Anarchy, actually Civil if the IES director wants to control who gets in eUSA LIKE HIS JOB TELLS HIM TO DO, he should NEVER ignore a congressmen with the ability to accept CS requests

seriously do u not get that ?

and i know the rules stop talking to me about them, and Hanibal wants to give a reason of why 1 of the people were approved , and the rules clearly say, the censure is reversible , so how will it be reversed if the person in-charge refuses to listen to the reason

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:46

@Pfiefer read article again !!!

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:46

@Hannibal: Mobile voting can't be forced on anyone. If people disagreed with it, they wouldn't willingly participate with it.

No, this is not a different question. This is the same manner that we decided Eden, the same way we decided PANAM, and the same way we decide impeachments. Congressional rules are made to handle big decisions in the same way they can handle small ones.

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:47

of why that person was approved ?

@Hanibal i wouldn't mind seeing some logs

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:47

@Civil Anarchy, actually Civil if the IES director wants to control who gets in eUSA LIKE HIS JOB TELLS HIM TO DO, he should NEVER ignore a congressmen with the ability to accept CS requests

seriously do u not get that ?

and i know the rules stop talking to me about them, and Hanibal wants to give a reason of why 1 of the people were approved , and the rules clearly say, the censure is reversible , so how will it be reversed if the person in-charge refuses to listen to the reason +1

Asklepije
Asklepije Day 1,692, 16:48

Support!

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:50

@Blaster...those are well know facts...CA call them..mobile voting !!!

but if u want i will send u some of logs...from last elections...

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 16:50

@Blaster: We're talking about someone who's already broken the rules of the IES before, in a way that prevents the IES director from doing his job. Hannibal has shown previously he'll ignore the form, and approve people without directive, not once but twice. It doesn't matter if he goes back, he's still violated the chain of command and the method of how people are approved, regardless of whether or not the person is a PTO'er, or completely safe.

GloveisLove
GloveisLove Day 1,692, 16:51

Why don't you just have a public poll asking citizens if they want to leave Terra and if they like an alliance with Spoland? I dont think 50ish congressman represent the thousands of citizens we have. If you truly value public opinion then a poll such as this is the best I think.

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:57

@Civil Anarchy okay what if that some 1 wants to give a reason of why he approved a specific person ?

does the IES director job says to not give him a chance ?

okay next in line for the IES rules

"If u are a congressman, and u are under a penalty, please go and sell ur approvals because the IES director will not talk to you, why ? because he ignores those who didn't follow the rules even if they want to say why, PS: don't be scammed and sell a CS for under 5G and have a nice day"

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:58

@CA ahahahh great trolling o7

You have my statement on forum about my first mistake..i dont have acces now..but u have, u already saw it so pls dont write things like this. u trying to discredit me this article with that.

This time, i made mistake only cuz player i accept didnt have 3 but 1 vouchers !!!few minutes after SoH informed me im censured i find 2 more strong vouchers, but that wasn't enough i supose..why.we will see when Longoba answer me !!! still waiting answer on 2 days old ig

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 16:59

@Civil Anarchy okay what if that some 1 wants to give a reason of why he approved a specific person ?

does the IES director job says to not give him a chance ?

okay next in line for the IES rules

"If u are a congressman, and u are under a penalty, please go and sell ur approvals because the IES director will not talk to you, why ? because he ignores those who didn't follow the rules even if they want to say why, PS: don't be scammed and sell a CS for under 5G and have a nice day" +1

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 16:59

all i can say ur method sounds effective to me Civil, even thou i know it's not included in the rules , but seems to me like u think it should

and as a congressman i believe u have the power to make that suggestion
take it up on the forums, am sure people will feel very delighted and approve it right away

Red Tornado
Red Tornado Day 1,692, 17:07

Transparency, First of all !

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,692, 17:11

@Blaster: It doesn't matter what reasoning he had, he knew what the rules were, because he had been warned last time that he would be censured if he broke them again. If we don't enforce the rules of Congress, then there are effectively no rules in Congress. If we let everyone just approve who they want in the manner Hannibal did, then everyone would be disregarding protocol anyway. If we don't punish people for approving people outside of IES, then everyone will. This is an issue of Enforcement

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,692, 17:16

@CA as i said..im ok and i agree with my penalty !!! i did wrong...

but...if i say i have explaination for what i did, it would be logical that somebody hear what i have to say..right...like on court...

as i say..my only mistake was i didnt have 3 but 1 voucher....but..it was mistake..i agree

BlasterXL
BlasterXL Day 1,692, 17:21

@Civil , u completely ignored what i said TWICE and started talking on your own

and i even talked to you about the rules , IT SAID REVERSIBLE, loud and clear

and punish them for what ? for approving a guy u made a mistake about ? that sounds as an excellent reason for me

and its not an issue of enforcement when it comes to reversing the censure , its an issue if the congressman was right or wrong , made a mistake or didn't. Period.

 
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