Declaration of Grievance Against Sweden by Germany
Bundesministerium des Inneren
Recently, Germany noticed a new donation proposal in the Swedish congress:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/1139
According to messages posted on the Swedish national forum, this DEM is to be used to fund the Q5 defense industry in Germany.
This contradicts previous arrangements and intentions made with Germany, both to donate the DEM to the national org "Bundesbank" and to arrange for the German acquisition of said defense company located on German soil in Bavaria.
Germany asks that Sweden notify us when they are to abruptly change policy in such ways as this in order to promote unity between our two great nations. It pains us when such a great friend and ally hides information from Germany especially pertaining to large sums of German money.
So, Germany formally warns Sweden that it will declare an EMBARGO against Sweden upon election of either DKN or Justin Tyme if Sweden does not renegotiate some terms with Germany. Both Candidates agree on the Embargo Act, although it pains them to do so. We want nothing but peace and companionship between our two great nations; and believe us when we say we are truly sorry it has come to this. This is by no means a declaration of hostility; it it simply a sign to show that Sweden cannot betray agreements among friendly nations. If Sweden does open diplomatic ties and renegotiate with Germany, the embargo will be fully dropped.
Again, Germany apologizes to Sweden for this, but if Sweden wants to deny economic information with Germany, then Sweden cannot cooperate with Germany in trade.
Comments
I am sorry about what happened and hope we can solve problems soon. Definitely agree to that text!
voted
I am in complete agreement with the above text. Voted.
I also endorse this proposal.
As Congressman, I fully agree the text. Voted
I agree, wish it wouldn't have to come to this though.
why would Sweden do this to us?
I agree.
From the germans it sounds like Sweden is breaking a contract, how come?
We have never promised you a Q4 hospital nor a Defense Systems Factory. I have argued that you should be given the Q4 Hospital and asked you to discuss the matter with President Danny, I have never promised cause I can't do that. I'm neither the President nor the congress.
This reaction from the germans surprices me like a lightning bolt from a clear sky. I though we could discuss things and not immeadeately jump the gun and threat with an embargo.
If the communications regarding the Q4 hospital have been poor I think its sad.
DKN didn't you talk to Danny about it? I told you to do so for a long time ago.
-= "PM from Misho to DKN sent 2008-11-26 05:12:23
Talk to Danny about this, I'm not sure but Sweden might have a Q4 Hospital to you free of charge." =-
What happened?
Best regards
Misho
Minister of Defense, Sweden
Well, the thing that jumped was the proposal to donate 32k DEM right after we have published our monetary market strategy.
I talked with Danny about it and I tried to reach him yesterday but then thing screwed up. I asked several times in our Embassy to inform us about a final decision what Sweden will do with the weapon system and our DEM. Nothing happened for days and then we were faced with such a law proposal. We have problems with our currency and we have not enough wood...even not enough worker and we just see Sweden donating 32k DEM to a company located in eGermany. And although there were several questions from me - typically no information reached us. So what would you feel?
Last thing I heard from Danny was that we are not the only one interested in a q4 hospital and the Congress will decide.
That's why I demanded yesterday one Swede that is empowered by the Congress to deal with us - but instead we just got that proposal. What we see here in all that proposals and reactions is just because of a lack of information - a lack of communication.
Let's take this as chance to upset something (ambassador or what ever you want) that helps us to speak to each other before proposing laws to each other that could hurt or influence the affairs of another nation.
BTW: We haven't propose anything yet - but see the DEM in Germany!
Apparently we had 2 hopitals and there where 3 newly restored neighbours, in order Poland, Finland and Germany if I'm correct.
Sweden have discussed to give Germany a Hospital as a show of good will to a newly resisted neighbour. Sweden gave Poland one, they where so to speak firts in the que.
If I understood correctly there has also been problem with a bug when 'donating/selling' one of the hospitals.
Now it seems like the second of the two hospitals has been promised to Finland - I say seems cause I do not know - which would leave the swedish stock of Q4 hospitals on Zero.
Of course we would like to help all three neighbours, but we can't do magic.
If there has been a lack of communications I feel that is sad, but I don't like to play a blame game. Sweden can fail in communication and so can Germany
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-the-f-k-is-happening--704108/1
But honestly, Sweden might fail to give Germany a hospital for free and the german reaction is a threat of trade embargo? I fail to see the propornationality and the wize diplomacy in this.
I realize now that Germany has problems with DEM in it's economy, I know real life economics but not eRep economics so I'm perhaps not the right person to comment on that. But if Sweden transfer 36000 DEM to a company in Germany to be used to pay high salaries to german workers these DEM will be a great injection in the German economy.
From taxes they later will end up - or pass through - the German state coffins.
Isn't that a good thing?
Sincerely
Misho
Minister of Defense, Sweden
Why should it be nice to take influence into a other countrys economy without talking to them before. This is just a way to get influence in the german market and a way to control germany...
Keep in mind the entire reason Germany was ceding Saarland as a strategic Swedish base was because Sweden was going to give Germany a Q4 hospital in Thuringia. If Sweden does not carry through with its side of the agreement, Saarland will go back to Germany.
We promised Saarland to Sweden in exchange for a Q4 hospital, and Germany intends to keep that promise if Sweden will carry through
I agree that if Sweden was to pull out on an agreement that would be a cause for a fair amount of anger, however a trade embargo is way out of line. Embargoing a nation DOES cut off relations, it means your trying to choke a country until it yields. First, we don't even have the resources or military power to back such a threat, and secondly it isn't needed.
This needs to be done behind closed doors and away from public eyes, this type of action will only destroy relations in the days to come. I ask that both sides of our government take a new approach towards the situation before it boils down into something much worse.
Some german leaders have apparently taken a Q4 Hospital from Sweden for granted and when it proved it wasn't changed tactic to threats.
Swedish congressmen and politicians feel very unjust treated by this. It have been very hard for them to order me and the swedish people to release the regions they once fought so hard to conquer.
36 000 DEM is equal to 180 Gold for the eGerman nation, it's peanuts. You have more than that on several of your player accouts, some of you have thousends of gold. Enough to print hundreds of thousends if not over a million DEM. Yet, Sweden points out to be runeing the German economy for 36 000 DEM?
What is the true purpose behind this game one wonders.
Not a member of congress myself but a well known international character in this game it really surprices me how german leaders uses threats in ther diplomacy.
We don't even hear that with Peace GC countries like Indonesia, Italy and so on. If you have some Chief Advisor in eGermany perhaps you should start questioning his or hers advice cause they are not serving the best of German interests IMHO.
Every eCountry have foreigner with companies in their nations. Some even huge companies. It part of the game, has been and always will be.
I regret to inform you that the swedish president has had enought of this treatment of accusations and started a Vote to witdraw the previous offer to freely and helpfully handle over eSwedish regions to eGermany.
Best regards
Misho
Minister of Defense, Sweden
Well I guess I saw that coming.. Wish our leaders could have seen it coming.
Also, one thing that made most swedes to question the seriousity of DKN's diplomacy was when he offered 150 GOLD for the Q5-defence system company when it's worth 185 GOLD if we downgrade it to Q1!
I really hope we come to an agreement soon and that Germany will once more grow to become a great allied of Sweden. Threats will really not get you there...
I knew this embargo was going to a bad idea.
kinda cool, Germany with only 300 pop threatening with embargo's to their neighbouring nation with 10 times as much population and a privileged member of ATLANTIS. Not very wise if you ask me, especially if you see that's it's being surrounded by 3 powerful ATLANTIS members...
Perhaps they've seen 300 a bit to many times and think we can reinact it.