De keuze regeert // It's all about choices
RV93
(English version below)
Beste burgers van eNederland,
zoals U allen weet, komen de presidentiële verkiezingen er aan.
Mijn boodschap is kort en duidelijk. Het gaat deze keer om keuzes, zeer belangrijke keuzes.
U heeft de volgende keuze:
U kiest voor onderhandelingen met onze bezetter (ePolen) wanneer U kiest voor Auggustus.
U kiest voor financieel wanbeleid wanneer U kiest voor Auggustus.
En als laatste,
U kiest voor een mogelijke president, die tegen onze bondgenoten vecht vanuit zijn MU, wanneer U kiest voor Auggustus.
Al met al, kan ik U enkel zeggen; Stemt Thanatos the Magnificent, daar hij staat voor vrijheid, ervaring, eerlijkheid en al met al: Bij hem zijn onderhandelingen met ePolen uit den boze!
Was getekend,
RV93
Congreslid namens GPN
Dear citizens of eNetherlands,
as you all know, the presidential elections are coming up.
My message is short, and clear. This time it is about choices, very important choices.
You have these choices:
You will opt-in for negotiations with our oppressor (ePoland) whenever you vote for Auggustus.
You will opt-in for financial maladministration whenever you vote for Auggustus.
And, last but not least,
You will opt-in for a possible president, who is fighting against our allies, with his MU, whenever you vote for Auggustus.
I can only say; Vote for Thanatos the Magnificent, as he stands for freedom, experience, honesty and last but not least: He is against negotiating with the oppressor!
Signed,
RV93
Congressmember for GPN
Comments
A congress member making destructive propaganda. Lol
Well, I may be a member of Congress, but I am also a party politician and a free citizen of eNetherlands.
I do not agree with Auggustus' plans, so I have the right to backfire his ideas.
Critic is good, but this kind of articles start a big fight again. Fight goes to forum, parties hate each other. And a new meeting is needed to cease the fight, but that meeting will be held after elections. I know how the system of political hate works in eNL. It's the reason UNP exists, we are the bridge between parties.
You may say UNP is the bridge, but where is the bridge in these troubled times?
Further, I am free to do as I please, freedom of press, you know?
This article won't start a fight, and I am not responsible if anyone is offended. That is up to them, to decide.
I thought ZM played like a brigde don't see her. And I only see you and Nuttyfox mudslapping to auggustus and HC's. SO please shut up so we can rest.
So, you say I am mudslapping HC's? I have not said the word HC in the whole discussion..
So, please, read before you start your accusations.
I'm not angry, but I may not do anything. not from you or GPN.
You mean, GPN is witholding you from discussing? That, my sir, is a lie.
Aries is withoulding me from discussions. Almost all CM of previous month didn't want me as dCoC. So witholding me from positions.
@Marnix; why didn't you run for Congress for demNL? I'm sure they'd let you.😁
True, the president candidate last minute blocked Marnix to become dCoC. http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=11194
vS for DemNL. That's not my party. I agree with their standspoints, but my party is UNP
So a congress member has no right to make statements in this country Kordak? That doesnt sound very democratic to me. I don´t see any destructive in hes comments? Kordak you kinda just stated that the citizens of NL blindly believes everything they read and have no personal will or capasity to think for their selfs.
Where did I say that Nutty? I don't have the right to deliver critic to someone who knows very well what he is doing? I don't see myself saying illigal things? Nutty you just stated, that I stated, something that has not been stated at all!! My point was that we in eNL should focus less at the negative points. He also could have made a article to support thanatos explaining why the points are better. What he said here is not based at facts and remains in dogmas. I just want a better community, they tried to fight with me as well when I was candidate. Please let's all look in the mirror first.
Stop met die populistische onzin RV93. Jij moet daarboven staan. Dit heb je niet nodig...
Niets populistisch, op dit moment. Ik maak mij enkel grondig zorgen over de gevolgen, wanneer Auggustus (Iron and Wine, ook daar ben ik geen fan van, vanwege historische gebeurtenissen) aan het roer komt.
Hij mag misschien de burgers inpalmen met halve waarheden en loze beloftes, maar hier trap ik niet in.
Wanneer ik de nood voel, om te reageren op mogelijke plannen van een kandidaat-cp, dan doe ik dat.
Bovendien, gaan de mogelijke onderhandelingen er bij mij niet in, op dit moment.
Het is inderdaad een kwestie van keuzes:
Onderhandelen met ePolen?
Ja [ ]
Neen [ X ]
Dan MoNC je hem toch gewoon ben je aardig goed in.
Nog steeds boos om de MoNC? Dat getuigd van weinig politieke flexibiliteit.. Erg kinderachtig, Marnix Maximus.
Het is simpel. Hij sluit onderhandelen niet uit. Dat klopt. Jij brengt het alsof hij direct start met onderhandelen. Daar val ik over. Dat is namelijk de halve waarheid. En dat heb je niet nodig.
Dat mag zo zijn, ElGorro, maar de 'mogelijkheid' alleen al, maakt mij misselijk. We zullen niet onderhandelen met de bezetter, dat is waanzin.
Het verdraaien van zaken is niet echt netjes. Dat valt me tegen van je en daar ging dit commentaar over. Verder mag je natuurlijk van mening verschillen, maar doe het wel eerlijk.
You know very well what you are doing atm. I expected more constructive articles of you. I will not involve in nonsense articles, but in this case I have to express my disapproval as I would do if the other side did the same. I'm not forbidding anything, I'm just saying that the same old story repeats every month.
I know what I am doing, I am expressing my opinion, regarding my worries, if Auggustus gets elected as CP.
The facts are;
1. Auggustus failed on financial issues in the past.
2. He fights against our allies, through his MU.
3. He is thinking of negotiation with ePoland.
I just wrote down the facts, to express my worries.
I believe he explained it.
Yes, and it is my right, to backfire the explanation. And that is, what I did.
And auggustus is telling his plans. I have seen NO plan from thanatos. Only the sentence free netherlands. So please come with plans, before attacking other plans.
I am not responsible for Thanatos' plans, but I believe he has plans, with a major issue: No negotiations with the oppressor.
It is my right to attack other plans. You are complaining, we/I are not/am not giving you the right to discuss, but you, are doing exactly the same thing, you are blaming me/us for.
But the most {99😵 of my 'attacking comments" are reactions on other comments from other people. You can search for those other comments. This comment of you isn't a reaction on another comment, but just shouting bad things around.
Let's stop this madness tomorrow, and vote for Magnificense!
V+S
Madness started by those who support him?
Dit is wel een bizarre campagne aan het worden. Hou je alsjeblieft aan de feiten en kom niet met onzinnige opmerkingen RV. De spelers hebben heus wel door hoe de vork in de steel zit. En.. laten we ook eens verder kijken dan onze neus lang is.
Iron en Wine van nu is bijvoorbeeld niet meer het Iron en Wine van lang geleden. Dat je daar nog steeds akelige gevoelens bij het lijkt me dan ook helemaal niet terecht. Stop het onderbuikdenken!
Ik houd mij aan de feiten, en daar baseer ik mijn artikel op.
Het is mijn recht, om mijn mening betreffende andere verkiezingsprogramma's te ventileren, en dat is precies wat ik doe.
Volgens mij, maakt een groot deel hier de keuze, om de persvrijheid in te perken, door dergelijke reacties te plaatsen op artikelen.
Iron and Wine blijft voor mij Iron and Wine, in alle aspecten. Kijk maar eens naar het 'zinspelen op mogelijke onderhandelingen met ePolen'.. Oftewel; voor eigen gewin functioneren.
V!
Gotta say people like you give the NL and the GPN a bad name.
http://tinyurl.com/ckwd4nf
And I got to say, people like you, who want to negotiate with the oppressor, are abandoning our nation, and selling our nation to the devil.
GPN...
Learn to read and put your petty emotions asside for once. Think of the big picture if your ever capable of doing so.
How can anything but negotiation save us? Any feasible plans?
again turning words. Since when is negotiating the same as selling? auggustus said he only wants to make agreements that are good for eNL and that he don't decide that alone.
But you want selling democracy for 5 gold? Explain that?
Just one minor gripe with your article: you're completely biased and therefore nothing in your article is particularly interesting.
Had you held no membership of GPN or Iron and Wine (or any of their political affiliates), your opinion would be free from political bias.
Nonsense! What that comes down to is that only those who aren't a member of any political party (for they are all affiliated to one or more others in some way) can be unbiased. That is an insult to all eNL'ers who can think for themselves, whether they are a member of a party or not. Granted, as far as I can see there are only a few of those but still...
Unfortunately it's not nonsense. Assuming you were a swing voter, would you accept an article as an unbiased one if written by Job Cohen telling you to vote for the PvdA, because of all the bad things he THINKS the other parties do or have done?
Those kinds of articles only work to strengthen the resolve of the voters that have already made their choice to vote for the PvdA. No one takes this kind of argument seriously.
Contrarily, had it been an objective article about how the policies between the parties differed and how they think the agenda of the other party simply would not work, then I would have placed much more value in this article.
Instead, it is an article complaining about the vague past with an argument that back then no one could even confirm the validity of.
Now the polish negotiation argument WOULD have been decent, had it been backed up with arguments on why negotiation would be a bad idea. i.e., failed negotiations in the past, or their blatant unwillingness to negotiate (both, by the way, arguments that can easily be refuted but are merely here to illustrate my point).
i'm a GPN member myself but this is just deadwrong RV. Poland has about 11000 players we have got almost 500. no negotiation is just suicide and I agree with keeping all options open if checked by congress. Also all the comments aren't an attack on freedom of the press but on your complete lack of arguments and facts to backup your opinion, it's like saying 'Ajax sucks' and then just walk away or say it's your right to think that way. It is but it doesn't show a great deal of intelligence.
I agree. I'm pro-negotiation simply because I see no way we can actually win a war and maintain sovereignty while the Polish outnumber us, have an economical advantage, and a vast military advantage. In all categories of gameplay they will overcome us, except for negotiation as it doesn't depend entirely on numbers but also on the skill of the negotiator.
You may or may not agree, but I believe negotiating with the oppressor is dead wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It is better to die standing, than to live on your knees.
so it has come to this now?
i can't even find the words to respond to this in a civilized manner, so i will do the wise thing and won't even continue.
@ PariahDog: (as I can't reply to you directly) don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the way this article is written and it doesn't help to calm the political waters. But I also don't agree with your statement that only players who aren't a member of a political party can be unbiased. That's just not true...
Sad to see this article. Similar to Pariahdogs, and that's just not acceptable.
United we stand, divided we fall. And we are divided now....