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Behind the scenes: the birth of Rising

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Lego-kun
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Lego-kun Day 1,015, 14:31

Congrats for the article

 
LowRider
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LowRider Day 1,015, 14:33

It is sad

 
dr_k
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dr_k Day 1,015, 14:35

presupun ca nu ai avut in contractul de munca trecuta o clauza de confidentialitate...o alta greseala

 
StaticTM
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StaticTM Day 1,015, 14:42

I still believe that v2 has a lot of potential to become a magnificent game (that's why I'm still here, 4-clicking), but I guess the "decision factors" have no interest or enough brains to just do that!

 
Chocolate McSkittles
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Chocolate McSkittles Day 1,015, 14:44

>phoenix-style.

Proof of admin bias.

On a more serious note, as an outsider lookin in its become more and more obvious that this game is shit because of the "higher ranking" erep staff, and that the lower ranking you are, the more you care about the game itself.

 
Chocolate McSkittles
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Chocolate McSkittles Day 1,015, 14:47

Oh. I just realized. My last article ties very well into your last paragraph.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/all-we-need1-1502737/1/20

 
clawy
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clawy Day 1,015, 14:53

Deci ai stiut ca jocul e prost, totusi ai scris numai chestii frumoase despre el. Cum se cheama asta exact?

"nu ai avut in contractul de munca trecuta o clauza de confidentialitate"
Am stiut despre continutul a 3-4 insidere inainte sa apara. Si nu cunosc pe nimeni din staff in RL, si joc jocul de partea opusa (adica nimeni nu e prost sa imi zica chestiile importante). E destul de clar ca nu au asa ceva, nu?

 
MoonlightShadow
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MoonlightShadow Day 1,015, 14:58

@low rider: cam mic levelu` tau ? /

@dr-k: daca as vrea sa dau in ei, as putea sa scriu romane cu cifre si fapte..din contra, incerc contrariul

@staticTM: I believed this too. Not anymore. If this is the net result of two years of work, oh well..they need to come up with another game

@Chocolate McSkittles: indeed "all we needed was sand"..great article

@clawy: din cate am auzit, esti ceea ce se numeste a fi troller, dar hai sa incerc o data, doar o data, sa comunic..daca vad ca nu am cu cine, o sa ignor..deci "[..]I really believed in Rising, and by writing articles[//]

Am scris chestii frumoase, crezand in ele, asa cum le percepeam eu.

 
Covorul
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Covorul Day 1,015, 15:01

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/goodbye-erepublik--1082065/1/20 <-- this was the best warning.

Now , the last 5-6 Insiders all together don't have 10.000 votes. Very


Sad

 
Laya
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Laya Day 1,015, 15:03

THIS GAME SUCKS.

 
theodeus
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theodeus Day 1,015, 15:05

but the article is awesome.

   
BattalGazi
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BattalGazi Day 1,015, 15:08

When people were screaming "v2 sucks, bring v1 back!" you ignored them and expected them to get use to play.But now, active population number is getting lower day by day.Everyone is leaving, noone registers.
Even me as an addicted v1 player, dont care about anymore.(Already forgot to train about 2 days, but I dont care:))
Soon, there will be noone to play, scream, complain.

It is really sad to see eR is dieing.

 
Covorul
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Covorul Day 1,015, 15:10

funny how...more than a year ago , when i registered , there were 170k citizens. In one month will reach that number. In one and a half year ... the same number of citizens.

 
clawy
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clawy Day 1,015, 15:12

Din cate am auzit eu, sunt ceea ce se cheama jucator (si chiar asi zice ca unul prin top 10-20% daca vine vorba de intelegerea jocului). Si chiar sunt si ceaa ce se cheama client, desi suma investitata un joc nu e mare (10 euro).

Ce nu imi place la articolul tau e ca in momentul in care apareau articole cu exact acelasi continut, tu si restul angajatilor erati foarte rapid la atacuri asupra lor. Iar acum uite ca cica voi mereu ati vrut sa faceti bine, dar nu ati fost lasati de aia de sus. Desigur aia de sus nu au nume, sau doar nu ai curajul sa le zici?

In fine, vorba lui Han, stau sa sting lumina, si nu va mai dura mult.

 
MoonlightShadow
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MoonlightShadow Day 1,015, 15:17

@BattalGazi: By the day when v2 was launched i had already left the team. So it was not "me" who did not listen Anyway, i was just as V1-addicted as you, and i feel the same sadness right now.

 
ligtreb
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ligtreb Day 1,015, 15:20

Thank you for your article.

 
supercar
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supercar Day 1,015, 15:21

Battal Gazi Correct Say...

 
Ronald Stevens
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Ronald Stevens Day 1,015, 15:23

good article

 
malika ela
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malika ela Day 1,015, 15:23

'This really should be a lesson. ' A lesson for who? If I may ask. Rhetorical question, of course : )

 
Alex Drex
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Alex Drex Day 1,015, 15:26

Thanks for the article. Really sheds some light on the whole situation. Higher ups need to learn to take feedback and realize they aren't always right. Not just the eRepublik team (although it's who I am talking to in this case) but throughout the world that happens all of the time. Higher ups get too blinded and think they are all powerful and they can never do anything wrong, that when someone lower than them says that an idea won't work or is not good, or even suggests a great idea to them, they just don't listen. It's quite sad.

R.I.P. eRepublik. I'll miss you.

 
legendoliver
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legendoliver Day 1,015, 15:30

What next? We are just going to leave this game to die? I kind of like the new military module just because you don't have to be a veteran***** to do something on a battlefield. For example in V1 my damage was absolutely insignificant , in V2 i'm in the top 20 Romanian(with citizenship) fighters by damage. And i did that without hundreds of gold , i think i spent under 20-30g fighting(including weapons , WP , food).

That is one of the few reasons i like Rising.

 
J & T BANK
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J & T BANK Day 1,015, 15:31

Very nice article, finally we shall stop moaning and insulting admins (y'know, shouting admin s*ks and so...) because here we have confession - no matter how hard they try, how much they want to change things and make world better, there are some guys with rights who make their own mind. Moonlightshadow, maybe you should send this article (+discussion) to game owners who really might care and listen to their ex-employee and ex-customer.

 
Wpack10
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Wpack10 Day 1,015, 15:31

Read this on eUS forums, great read, glad to hear that not everyone on the team is a(n) -insert any insulting noun here-

 
EternalFlameOfFreedom
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EternalFlameOfFreedom Day 1,015, 15:32

Great article and thanks for sharing it. Maybe one day this idea about Rising (or V2) will be the one that everybody wanted, but though truth is that no one will be here to see and play it then.

 
Dashenka
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Dashenka Day 1,015, 15:34

Lack of communication killed the game.

 
Lord Oli
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Lord Oli Day 1,015, 15:35

Return Eastern Siberia and Mongolia to Serbia, its not our fault you made buggy game

 
Iraninho
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Iraninho Day 1,015, 15:35

bring v1 back!;}

 
santirub
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santirub Day 1,015, 15:37

I was forgot why i am subbed to this NP. Thanks for remember me : 3. Voted ofc.

 
Vidovdan 1389
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Vidovdan 1389 Day 1,015, 15:41

Great article, really sad... I'll tell you something. I created a web-site during v1, www.erepublik-srbija.com. It was used to bring more people from Serbia to play it. I closed it... Because people will not stand this. I killed it because this game, in this form, where no one listens to you, deserves to die. I'm relatively young - 9.5 months old, but I spent every day in those past months playing erepublik and chating with friends. Articles today are pure spam for what they used to be. When I see top articles today it makes me sick. All the good guys are leaving or left, now there are "average" players who think they know it all. Even chatrooms are empty, and by empty I mean there are few of the guys with whom I started playing already gone. The guy who invited me 10 months ago, left when v2 started, and he was a passionate player. If they don't want to listen, well, there will be no one to listen to very soon...

 
Dreamer_KF
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Dreamer_KF Day 1,015, 15:42

reported for not respecting the 7th erep law.

 
eSupernova
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eSupernova Day 1,015, 15:43

Great article, voted/subbed.

You should be listened by the owners of this game if they don't want to see their game dying definitively.

 
Bogdan_L
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Bogdan_L Day 1,015, 15:44

I really appreciate this honest article, unfortunately there isn't too much to improve. A change like this one, once is done, it makes you happy or bankrupt. The business like business, I won't drop a tear for that, but all the people behind and all the passion doesn't worth the result.

Myself I was trying to point out most of the bad things that brought us here.

Life sucks!

 
Jelly9473
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Jelly9473 Day 1,015, 15:46

Great article Hate to see this game going downhill.

I used to strive to log on daily and do my training/working...now I rarely work and train and if I do it's because i'm bored. I love this game for the community, and as the community slowly leaves my love for the game does too.

It's unfortunate to see yet another great game, and community slowly die out because of developer/admin neglence.

 
Danie Fox
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Danie Fox Day 1,015, 15:46

My country has as many voters as the first couple of months; about 20% of what we had. Good article.

 
Dan Michelsen
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Dan Michelsen Day 1,015, 15:49

They should add an eVietnam and all of the middle eastern and southeast asian countries!!!

 
Thundewr
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Thundewr Day 1,015, 15:52

It's a sad story

 
Lobbanet II
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Lobbanet II Day 1,015, 15:53

Interesting article, honor to you.

 
dark-nk
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dark-nk Day 1,015, 15:53

v2=exctintion virus

 
ImCoolNp
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ImCoolNp Day 1,015, 15:56

despre ce-i vb aici?

 
TheMaverick
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TheMaverick Day 1,015, 15:59

Sad but true ... Good article MLS.

 
Julian van Spreuwen
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Julian van Spreuwen Day 1,015, 16:03

voted and subbed.

I hope the bugs will be fixed somewhere in the future....

 
ImCoolNp
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ImCoolNp Day 1,015, 16:04

da taci lun-o.... ca si tu le-nfloresti grav.... dupa cum bine ai zis.... ))).... au si la strungaru asta.... Lack of communication killed the game. .... dute ba... mie doar imi place melodia asta,... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_faccUI68 ....

 
JohnSmith 2K9
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JohnSmith 2K9 Day 1,015, 16:04

good Article

 
Holen
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Holen Day 1,015, 16:06

We Need To Recruit New Players If This Game Is Going To Survive.... Go to naruto forums go to online browser sites and tell people about it and how EDEN is raping ass and about how PHOENIX needs new citizens For There Honor or somthing WE NEED NEW PEOPLE!

 
baglamas
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baglamas Day 1,015, 16:07

i'm glad i read this article before ur ex-colleagues delete it

 
The_Clairvoyant
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The_Clairvoyant Day 1,015, 16:11

...and now it's too late. We are e-citizens, we are your CUSTOMERS, we are eRepublik. Not you. Without us, it's just a site that hopes to become a game. Even if you were not the decision maker, you still have responsibilities for what we came into. It's too late to turn back time, it's too late to listen to us now. The game lost that sparklin thing it had. It's gone.
Too sad, but true.

 
St Krems
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St Krems Day 1,015, 16:11

I apologise for giving you a hard time with the new forums. It's simply an example of poor management and wasn't your fault. Sorry.

 
Denis Cicic
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Denis Cicic Day 1,015, 16:12

Thanx for sharing.

 
hurkancs
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hurkancs Day 1,015, 16:12

...great article...i don't think that v2 is that bad, but it is no more a 15 minutes game...many ppl stopped playing becouse of that...

...who has time to be in a battle for few hours? in v1 you could be a tank and do your duty in 20 minutes...and to be a semi-clicker in v2 is pointless...military progress is irellevant,and work, train, study and residantial is so boring...battle module killed eComunity...

 
MrGorginos
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MrGorginos Day 1,015, 16:14

i am guru and ^i can't^ survive.. New players is dead, they must do changes asap........

 
Van Nelle
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Van Nelle Day 1,015, 16:16

Iraninho +1000

 
hurkancs
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hurkancs Day 1,015, 16:16

...P.S. i think that in a 6 months this game totaly dissapear... players will leave, and eRepublik team will bankrupt...

 
hurkancs
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hurkancs Day 1,015, 16:17

@Van Nelle and Iraninho___i love v1 too, but there is no way that admin admitt their fail, and bring it back...too many money they invested to go back..

 
MrGorginos
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MrGorginos Day 1,015, 16:18

@hurkancs meybe they want to end this game, that version is perfect for this, some idiots pay a lot of money and the other players who don't have real money forced to leave...

 
The_Clairvoyant
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The_Clairvoyant Day 1,015, 16:21

hurkancs..
There is no crossroads here friend. It's one way or the other. No alternatives. You invasted money somewhere, the choice was bad. Do you insist on that and bankrupt or you are flexible, openminded and humble enough to admit a mistake? As I said it a 2 opion way

 
NOSHADEZS
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NOSHADEZS Day 1,015, 16:28

v

 
V3rmilion
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V3rmilion Day 1,015, 16:29

well done my friend.... great article and very sad at the same time!!!!

 
LowRider
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LowRider Day 1,015, 16:30

@mls: mic si-al dracu xD

 
Suriat
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Suriat Day 1,015, 16:31

Admins (small group of 4-5) sux.
They should sell the game to someone who understand about customers satisfaction.

 
Tomjohnson
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Tomjohnson Day 1,015, 16:32

true : (
but don't give up

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!"

 
eSupernova
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eSupernova Day 1,015, 16:34

Hurkancs is right, the most realistic solution for them is to improve this game and fix all bugs and security breaches, but properly this time, not in adding new useless rules and more problems in this game.

 
GabrielP
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GabrielP Day 1,015, 16:40

@ MoonlightShadow: you must be perma-banned, killed by starvation, killed on the battlefield, left in the shadow to go pail...

you and your stupid articles of fantasies... soap operas... lain explanations... frustrations... apologies...

you are to be blamed... you have to say to us "I AM SO SORRY, PLS FORGIVE ME CUZ I HAVE SINNED!!!"... "I WAS YOUR BAD ADMIN IN THE DARK SAID"... "I SAID MANY LIES ABOUT HOW THE FUTURE WILL BE"...

YOU FAIL ROYALLY

you stop writing!

you get out of here and leave us alone!

you are fired!

 
bellumtravian
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bellumtravian Day 1,015, 16:42

well said...

 
agriniotis6
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agriniotis6 Day 1,015, 16:43

sad but true...The erep managers became greedy and in order to collect fast rl money,made V2 without even testing it and so difficult that players and companies are struggling to e-live!
Players are leaving and no new player registers.
How can a new player survive in a game that it doesn't offer chances to a new one?
No works,no money,no players!
You didn't listen to our complaints...so V2 is destined to die!

 
GabrielP
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GabrielP Day 1,015, 16:44

YOU ARE THE WEAK LINK!

YOU ARE FIRED!

 
Metallium
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Metallium Day 1,015, 16:49

+++++++++++++... Really, couldn't agree more!

R.I.P. eRep


-an ex-passionate eRepublik citizen

 
hurkancs
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hurkancs Day 1,015, 16:50

@MrGorginos___hummm, maybe you are right...maybe they want that...but i don't think that this game will be fun, if in eWorld stay only gold buyers...eventually they will go to...i don't wanna play eRepublik with 50k citizens...i want eRepublik with 500k+...that is real thing...

@The_Clairvoyant___time will tell my friend, but i am afraid that they will kill the game...and we are going to build eComunnity in the "other game"....i am playing this becouse pplz...we had RL meetings...i found new RL friends trough eRepublik comunity...

 
Metallium
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Metallium Day 1,015, 16:52

PS: Return to v1

 
lajsmith
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lajsmith Day 1,015, 17:05

Thanks for the share mate, really sheds more light on the current issues.

 
bo valentino
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bo valentino Day 1,015, 17:10

vote

 
Ifke
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Ifke Day 1,015, 17:26

vote

 
Maruishima
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Maruishima Day 1,015, 17:26

inb4censorship

 
Nolendil Valaina
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Nolendil Valaina Day 1,015, 17:33

Nice article.
As a developer working in a huge game company, I fully sympathize as this kind of failure happens every day here too.

 
TemujinBC
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TemujinBC Day 1,015, 17:42

Thank you for writing this.

 
wolf27
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wolf27 Day 1,015, 17:50

Understand that even the players who put MONEY slowly stops.
no longer of interest for those players who put MONEY
desert is the game slowly and if you want to keep should listen to the people who play this game

 
riAndri
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riAndri Day 1,015, 17:54

wow...!!! i miss that time

 
Dylanb9216
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Dylanb9216 Day 1,015, 17:55

ruh roh

 
Zelja
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Zelja Day 1,015, 17:58

this is exactly the same way the other game I played before this, FPS Americas Army died, the game was good, plus minus few bugs, but then higher ups decided to make it something it was never intended to be, countless idiotic decisions were made, game become one huge shinny pack of nothing, it was slowed down, hundreds of bugs appeared, then they forced developer team to release new version (like in this case erep rising) that was even bigger fail, nobody who played v1 liked it, and now the game is played by maybe few percent of people who played it before , without any chances of bringing new players (since its too slow, too buggy too complicated) and before it was among top 5 online FPS shooters

that was project funded by USA army, and people with no relations to gaming made decisions to introduce those devastating changes, but this is private project and I have no clue why are you trying to self-destruct...

 
hb741
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hb741 Day 1,015, 18:00

Thanks for the insider looks - the stupidity of the current battle module is well illustrated by the attack-retreat-attack Canada vs UK&France stalemate - time-zone differences makes real battles unlikely

 
TheImmortalOne
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TheImmortalOne Day 1,015, 18:04

LOL weird is how nuffin changed. They have fewer and fewer citizens, yet it takes longer and longer to get a freaking reply (2weeks and counting for what should be an urgent -unless "seeing training results" can be considered smth else- ticket).

Their fscked the economy, change after change after change...everyone yelled 'dont restrict the number of health, but the number of foods so bigger Qs companies could resist'...

Nothing matter. "Community my arse - a game developed by a bunch of money-sucking-bug creators" - there's your 'Rising motto'.

 
George Armstrong Custer
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George Armstrong Custer Day 1,015, 18:09

" eRepublik Rising failed because a couple, just a couple of guys believed that they are right. When so many were telling them that they are wrong. Too bad that they were the decision factors. This really should be a lesson."
you sure you're not talking about out here in the game, on the player side? we have that problem in our eUS government.

 
JGutenberg
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JGutenberg Day 1,015, 18:13

Very well written and extremely touching.

 
Jovan Tekelija
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Jovan Tekelija Day 1,015, 18:20

you said nothing here. just like your articles you keep on repeating the same things: we tried, we worked hard, poor me, nyer nyer... boring. admit incompetence and get over it!

 
johnpauljones
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johnpauljones Day 1,015, 18:26

I appreciate your candid honesty. It only confirms what many of us suspected. A few suits who sit in an office directed the game from it's great potential to a great upset.

All we needed was a little sand...

 
Bishop M
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Bishop M Day 1,015, 18:26

quicksand....

 
johnpauljones
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johnpauljones Day 1,015, 18:29

lol, I can't even vote for this damn article because this game sucks. What a piece of shit game.

 
Zaib Atsu
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Zaib Atsu Day 1,015, 18:30

The game used to be fun, but not anymore

 
Andri_Yeah_Yeah
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Andri_Yeah_Yeah Day 1,015, 18:52

..........

 
Alex.L
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Alex.L Day 1,015, 18:52

"Even chatrooms are empty, and by empty I mean there are few of the guys with whom I started playing already gone." x10000

Couldn't agree more. In V1 times there used to be at least 30 people in chatroom of my unit anytime, not only on when there's battle we must fight in. Now we're happy if that number is bigger than 10. People are leaving this game, it's pretty obvious.


I personally think that V2 is better than V1 in every aspect but numerous bugs, hacks, security holes, unbalanced formulas and so on are ruining the game. Sometimes I just feel that I don't care for this game as I used to 3-4 months ago.

Main problems are battles. Economy will eventually be fixed, but war module (even without bugs) is reason why players leave. Not many people can spend 2h on fighting. I can, but many people that I know cannot. Admins shortened turn times because of this but that created another problem. It's too hard to create strategy and to send commands to soldiers in only 90 seconds. I don't see how this problem can be solved.
Battles are now too dependant on time zones. No matter how strong are you or how many MPPs you have enemy will beat you in 99% of battles if they have been started in a bad time for you. So basically you only retreat it and reattack when you want (that's what's happening in majority of battles).
There was SOMETHING that forced me (and others) to get up early of to stay late at night and to watch ends of epic battles. Something that I can't describe. Really special feeling. Now it's gone.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling admins to return to V1. V2 has potential. Every change is difficult and switching from V1 to V2 was huge one. It's up to admins (or should I say "to those 4-5 powerful people) to do something, to start listening to our wishes or everybody will leave. eRepublik is not the only game of this kind after all...

 
Great Alexander The III
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Great Alexander The III Day 1,015, 18:54

voted

 
Drumdude06
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Drumdude06 Day 1,015, 19:28

It really is sad.....

 
mjmnum1
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mjmnum1 Day 1,015, 19:56

Well done sir, well done. There are other games out there, that may carry on the eRep tradition. We shall see. If you're interested, let me know.

We may have our sand yet.

 
Anyonymous
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Anyonymous Day 1,015, 20:05

Thanks for the heads up, it really is quite sad. Best of luck to all citizens.

 
Ethalion
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Ethalion Day 1,015, 20:19

perfect article!!!!!!!!!!!
Im new ecitizen and i just watch a nice browser game, moving to his end and the admins just watching ppl to leave!

 
N4zGuL
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N4zGuL Day 1,015, 20:29

I firmly believe that v2 is turning this game to a whole new experience. I totaly agree that many mistakes have been made but it seems to me that giving up so easy is an act of irresponsibility on whosever behalf...even yours...
Given an economical "correction" likewise some safety modifications and adjustments that support new players and raise their excitement levels v2 erep could turn into o hole new bright browser game...I mean perhaps there should be no profits for ou guyz for at least a month or two in order to replace our happiness raitings...its that or farewell to your investment..perhaps you ve allready found a new project..turning back to v1 is not a solution is the fatal strike to us all... remastering erep rising is the only way according to me and many of my friends ...should any of remains commited to that project...
Anyway voted ...v2 has a lot of potential i insist

 
Martabak Ostin
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Martabak Ostin Day 1,015, 20:31

It is sad .... hopefully admins d something to save this game soon...

 
Martabak Ostin
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Martabak Ostin Day 1,015, 20:32

It is sad .... hopefully admins d something to save this game soon...

 
Lucius Aldragon
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Lucius Aldragon Day 1,015, 22:01

Thanks for your input. Quite sad, really. It's good to see an (ex) member of the team speaking out. I just hope the decision-makers will smarten up.

 
not0
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not0 Day 1,015, 22:50

@clawy, baga tu 300.000 de jucatori a cate 10 euro fiecare si vezi cam ce suma iti da, deci pe ei ii intereseaza in principal sa investesti, daca investesti mai mult si mai mult cu atat mai bine; eu sunt de parere ca niciun joc nu merita vreun ban muncit in RL
cat despre V2, e o prostie, sincer, e un fond de investitii fara a avea oportunitatea de a efectua si retrageri