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An Apology

Day 1,819, 13:47 by Goku Jones

I was banned from the #eUK IRC channel today. I queried the person who did it, eUK Moderator and Swedish Citizen Invalidation AKA Alice'. This is the unedited conversation which followed:

[20:46] SageGoku why did you kb me
[20:46] Alice` you are poison

[20:46] SageGoku I'm doing me best to be 100% constructive
[20:46] SageGoku since name change
[20:47] SageGoku give me a chance, I actually havent done anythign wrong at all
[20:47] SageGoku if I was doing anything bad sure ban me
[20:47] Alice` Changing your name doesn't change you
[20:47] SageGoku did I do anything you object to in IRC just now?
[20:48] Alice` no
[20:48] SageGoku can you unban me until I do somethign wrong?
[20:49] Alice` you have done enough wrong for multiple permanent bans, I don't see any reason to give you liberty of #euk
[20:49] SageGoku are you in charge of eUK?
[20:49] SageGoku and what is it's connect to the forums
[20:49] SageGoku even Dan MOir is giving me a chance there...
[20:50] Alice` It is run by the forum moderation team
[20:50] Alice` and people have been banned from it for having permanent forum bans before
[20:50] Alice` as you were until you decided to have a new name
[20:50] SageGoku Oh we where told a few years ago and IRC and Forum where seperate, back when we complained about random bans back then
[20:51] Alice` well now you have an IRC ban as well as a forum one then
[20:51] SageGoku so IRC is subejct to Forum Moderator control? TO be very clear here.
[20:51] SageGoku What is the IRC ban for?
[20:51] Alice` for being Goku

[20:51] Alice` someone so repulsive they are essentially delete on sight
[20:51] SageGoku Is there a list of UK IRC rules?
[20:52] Alice` no
[20:52] SageGoku So who deices those rules?
[20:52] Alice` not you
[20:52] SageGoku I didn't think that I did, who does?
[20:53] Alice` not you
[20:53] SageGoku Are you refusing to say who makes up the IRC rules?
[20:54] Alice` there isn't a list of #euk's rules
[20:55] SageGoku You already said that.
[20:55] SageGoku Are there #eUK rules?
[20:55] Alice` there is not a list of them
[20:56] SageGoku WHy are you refusing to answer the questions?
[20:57] Alice` Why do you keep asking them?
[20:58] SageGoku OK. I am going to put this in an article, is there anything you want to say to the readers?
[20:58] Alice` Changing your name doesn't change who you are
[20:58] SageGoku Ok Alice.
[20:59] SageGoku Last chance to give any reasoning why I was IRC banned today despite no incidents over the last few days Ive been in the channel?
[20:59] Alice` You are poison
[20:59] SageGoku Thank you.

Now this isn't new, this is the kind of thing I got last year and eventually led to me leave the eUK for a year. People in positions of responsibility who in my opinion can be blatantly rude, obstructive and unhelpful. When I talk about problems with forum and IRC moderation, it is things like this which thankfuly have become rarer recently.

This used to majorly wind me up and led to me doing some bad stuff which I am trying to make up for now. I can't take back my attacks on the forum but I have been paying Talon Karrde back (2/3rds done). Sorry to anyone who may have been a victim caught in the crossfire of my frustrations at the above kind of behaviour. Also thanks to Talon for being relentlessly nice.

You may have noticed my slight name change which will remind me to always be constructive and wise. I will be making a real big effort to only do and post positive things from now on. I have been a constructive member of the eUK before and I can be again - but I need your help and not this kind of attack out of the blue.
Thanks and respect to Dan Moir though for giving me a chance and not banning me :)



Thedark ace
Thedark ace Day 1,819, 13:52

lol, hilarious

Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
Zaphod Beeblebrox IV Day 1,819, 13:52




Jamie2721 Day 1,819, 13:55

No matter what happened in the past, i would like to see Goku unbanned for #eUK indefinitely unless he really deserves to be banned (abusive language etc). I've not seen him do anything like that since he's came back

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Day 1,819, 13:55


BigAnt Day 1,819, 14:01


Goku Jones
Goku Jones Day 1,819, 14:02

What was dissapointing was not the ban, it was his avoiding questions. He could have just said "Sorry old ban still stands and this is why..." and left it at that.

Thankfully I am older and wiser now and didn't get mad!

Iain Keers
Iain Keers Day 1,819, 14:05

Though banning people for the sake of it isn't ideal, don't pretend you've changed Goku. I, and many others, have given you so many chances.

Ewan Dougall
Ewan Dougall Day 1,819, 14:10

I didn't know Goku before so I can't comment on that, however since his return I have not seen anything but him trying to be constructive and attempting to redeem himself for past wrongs, whilst fighting his corner.

Pity some (not all!) of those in positions of authority seem to be proper Kants...

alexg737 Day 1,819, 14:11

Glad to see you are making amends, hopefully more people will come to reconcile their differences with you and let you help the eUK more (as you have been doing since your return IMO).

Goku Jones
Goku Jones Day 1,819, 14:15

Iain I really don't think you have since I have only done forum banworthy offenses twice (once in 2009 and once in 2012). You didn't have any power in 2009 to give me a chance with and you haven't given me one since 2011.

Note that I only did banworthy offenses AFTER being banned for silly reasons as described in this article.

Goku Jones
Goku Jones Day 1,819, 14:16

Iain could we please backup these accusations of "traitor" and "so many chances" with some kind of substance on what I have done? You are giving the impression that I have done lots of stuff when actually it's just one ragetheft incident at the end of 2011 and the set of leaks a few months ago.

WayneKerr Day 1,819, 14:41

It's been common knowledge for the past few months that #eUK is the forum controlled chatroom... Those that run the forums also have control over the IRC, that is touted as the 'official' eUK chatroom.

lancer450 Day 1,819, 14:47


Prince Andrei
Prince Andrei Day 1,819, 16:16

Grats to Goku for paying back a richboy like Keers, even though he doesn't need the cash.
In most games, after a year you're unbanned/unmuted. Thing is, there's still the party irc and the forums have been dead for ages.

Viridi Day 1,819, 20:47


Sexagenarian Day 1,820, 01:03

Why am I not surprised at this.

Free GOKU!!!!!!

Johnobrow Day 1,820, 01:17




/me files in his "Evidence Goku is a sociopath" draw.

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Day 1,820, 01:22

A permanent ban is a permanent ban, that's why it is called permanent. You have three of them. If you don't want to do the time don't do the crime(s).

Sexagenarian Day 1,820, 02:40

Exactly why should an eSwedish citizen be moderating eUK communications?

Dunno why we're having the immigration drama in another thread, we already have a foreign PTO in place.

Free GOKU!!!

Iain Keers
Iain Keers Day 1,820, 03:15

I accepted you into TUP for one thing. Since then you've infiltrated us with multiple, stolen loan money from our members and then accused us of being the evil party.

I notice you still try and deny using multis

Spygon Day 1,820, 06:35

Goku you shouldn't even have EUK citizenship you tricked your way into the county and i would like your citizen request to be re-looked at by the up coming citizen committee.

Alphabethis Day 1,820, 06:49

invalidation is a regular in these matters of misbehaviour.

Alphabethis Day 1,820, 06:50

freedom for goku!!!

Goku Jones
Goku Jones Day 1,820, 09:25

Spygon please learn how the game mechanics work, you can't kick someone out once they are in.

Iain I did nothing wrong in TUP at all and how was that a second chance? What was the first chance?

Dr Hugh Jardon
Dr Hugh Jardon Day 1,820, 09:46

I'm not surprised by Invalidation. Always struck me as somebody so sad in real life that mod powers make him feel so special that he feels the need to wield bans and warnings to complete his own sense of self worth. Sad really.

Though fair play to Dan Moir may I add

Spygon Day 1,820, 11:22

I do know the game mechanics sage goku but i expect someone like you to abide by a new committee you have pushed so hard to get into places rules.Maybe someone as wise and honest as you would leave the country if the decision was that you should not deserve citizenship.

Or are you worried that you still wouldn't have got into the country lawfully with your new idea on immigration.

Spygon Day 1,820, 11:23

I would if the committee decided i should not recieve citizenship or is it as always one rule for us and one rule for Goku

WayneKerr Day 1,820, 11:43

punishments cant be retrospective...

Spygon Day 1,820, 11:57

I totally agree Wayne but this article is like an illegal immigrant complaining he is banned from getting a driving license.

Also Goku's complaints and "suggestions" on our immigration is so full of hypocrisy its ridiculous

Dr Hugh Jardon
Dr Hugh Jardon Day 1,821, 09:52

Well TUP put forward an illegal immigrant as their CP candidate...shows their utter contempt for us all then if being an illegal immigrant is so bad.

Also if he was accepted into the eUK illegally as you say may I recommend you submit a ticket to the game admins so they can explain to you that it is NOT illegal.

Jordee14 Day 1,821, 10:23

Thanks to Alpha for linking to this, hilarious!!

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