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I’ve been playing erepublik for a while now. I’m no first generation oldfag - no dusty old beta giant - but I have been consistently active and involved for quite a long period of time. I’ve seen players come, make their mark, go. I’ve seen accounts sold, new countries added, babybooms, the rise and fall of empires and alliances, etc etc.
Starting to lose the plot
I've also seen several countries go from enemies to friends and back to enemies again, and it is on these evolving relationships that I'd like to focus this article. What's truly fascinating about these enormous changes is how little it takes for these massive shifts in diplomacy to come about. How small the first incident can be, but how inexorable the force of change can be. Like a tiny tectonic murmur far out at sea becoming a raging tsunami, sweeping away everything in its path.
Let's take a couple of examples, starting with my country, eUK. Before my time in the game, we were allied with the countries that would go on to become EDEN, and enjoyed a stable and positive relationship with eIreland. I have no idea what our relations with Atlantis or Fortis countries were like, but we chose to change sides and joined PEACE, and went on to join Phoenix. Somewhere along the line our relations with Ireland were totally soured by idiot trolls like Tomazim and that Welsh guy, and tiresome attention whores like Edana. It really was as easy as fighting prominently in selected battles, mixing that with publishing a few offensive articles and comments, and adding a dash of RL prejudice. It took some time for the combustible mixture to explode, but for each gullible Irish idiot who retorted in kind to the trolls, two new British durps would appear to rebutt the Irish guy’s insult, and so on. I am not modest enough to deny thinking of myself as not unintelligent and as fairly socially skilled, but no amount of reason, no logical, strategic objections, no distracting alternative pursuits I could dangle in the UK population's face had the slightest long term effect on their desire for war with little Ireland.
From my personal scrapbook, Artela and me, immovable objects in the face of unstoppable forces
This rivalry, born in such an idiotic way, went on to help destroy the UK’s relationship with its alliance, Terra. The most significant change for us was the end of Uk-France friendship. For some time the UK had a fantastic friendship with France. Now that it is dead, it is tempting for some people in the UK to brush it aside as bias from me, but eFrance and the eUK went through a lot together, and had a lot of fun. Canadian invasions, phantom PTOs, even fighting the first Polish incursions into Western Europe after their departure from EDEN. #WEelite anyone?
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But this couldn't stop our withdrawal from Terra and rapid alliance switch to ONE. It seemed like rivalry with Ireland was more important to UK than any friendships it had in Terra, which, to me, is a strange way to play the game, which is why I no longer want to play for eUK. The same pattern seems to be emerging with UK and Sweden at the moment, and time will tell whether they become the UK’s next best friend, and how long it lasts etc.
It was a p cool avatar tbh
Another example illustrating how these grievances start small but fast become avalanches could be my dear Brazil, in particular their historic alliance with Hungary. While eRepublik was still The Phoenix vs EDEN Show, a handful of the Hungarian horse lovers PTOed South Africa without any collusion with Brazil, in whose sphere of influence eSouth Africa had always been. In itself this wasn't a catastrophe. However, once again the weasel words of a few players and the "snowball effect" turned what should have been a strategic win (however unsavoury- I personally detest PTOs) into an alliance shattering event.
A massive butt
How the Hungarian and Brazilian governments and populations responded to this minor event shaped the course not only of their deteriorating relationship, but was also one of the major influences on the radical alliance realignment we all witnessed all those months ago.
Simple, tiny misunderstandings becoming inexorable tides of public opinion is one of the most interesting phenomena I've observed in this ridiculous study on human behaviour called eRepublik.
-Thatcher
Armchair anthropologist. Terrible photoshopper. All-around boob.
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Fine article lad
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I see no boob.
I remember the blocking NE proposals well. I believe it was Blag who finally got the Ireland one in and we had lost from there.
to be fair, a lot of us who where in the pro PEACE camp played up the Irish thing to further push the UK into PEACE.
also, as one who was active in negotiations with Ireland, even when we where friendly with them, they had a lot of people in the pro american camp since day 1 and a good half of them had always had a fetish for northern ireland, even when the UK was their ally
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You take this game far too seriously 🙂
GLaDOS thanks- that was before my time. 🙂
And yes in my experience eIreland is just as bad.
Appleby thanks! How can I improve on it? There was a sentence in there I thought you'd love, you get 1 Q6 weap if you can find it.
ResoluteTR I do, I do, I do
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good article --> vote
no boobs + toooooooooooooo much text = why should I vote? : P
good article
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awesome one o7
Thank you!🙂
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too long to read now,but later will do.
my general opinion is that ur paint lvl is really low хD
Thanks for the support!
And @Mr.Gatev, I signed it:
-Thatcher
Armchair anthropologist. ---Terrible photoshopper.--- All-around boob.
Your answer lies in the comments. Shows true face of some individuals, can't even respect what you wrote. Regarding how fast allies become your enemies, it's simple. As long as you aren't a superpower, you are considered as a country that can be influenced on, in that way you become a sphere of influence of one or another superpower. In the early days UK was under USA, now it is under the influence of ONE superpowers.
And as long as you include real life affairs to this game, you can't expect a country to work in the mannerly way as you would like to see. A prime example that nations can't coexist peacefully is Bulgaria and Turkey, they were part of the same alliance at the time of Phoenix. Then came the era of Bulgarian baby boom that brought many many, I could say too many nationalists. But yeah, you get my point, what I'm talking about.
If it wasn't for misunderstandings, the game wouldn't be as interesting as it is. Who knows what would have happened if Brazil wouldn't have changed sides and if Hungarian PTOers weren't as egoistic as they were. You can assume and think about it, but at the end nothing will change. It's often that words of a few get misunderstood as words of many, and that's what trolls represent. If you call someone a French snail, for example, I made that up, he will think of Slovenia as a horrible nation.
Anyhow, I have always found it fascinating how great and old friendships can be so easily lost, an indication of real life I assume. Humans know no honor or respect to others that tell the truth, as long as they are interested in you from their point of view, till then you are interesting. Simple as that. And once, for example, you are out of money, they will abandon you. Countries are like that, sucking off from the superpowers for protection and once that isn't accomplished, time for changes I assume. But of course, that's my point of view.
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Hate > Love (always was and will always be stronger feeling in human minds)
Also small thing can change relationship of some countries because few control many and that is a fact.... People choose who will represent them in foreign politics but people won't always agree with decisions they make and decisions they make are in most cases final where you can't really go back. After that do little trolling and good propaganda and you will have two nations getting enemies or friends in no time.
Very good! I still remember that I fought more for UK than any other country in V2. Hungreedrians...what can I say about them.
ice killa, brazil changed sides (int)
hahaha dont make me laugh, as far as i know serbia and hungary were the ones planning to let phx die and make alliance with spain and poland at first place
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big boob at that Thatcher 😛
/me looks at the photo and reminisces about the good old days of eUK in Terra