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i.e. no kunts, and no incompetent fucks.

Sounds a bit rich coming from you, considering the farce of a man you supported for Taoiseach, but a good sentiment nonetheless.

I am of the opinion that Number 2 is directly because of Number 1.

Well...You can always get me back into congress... I haven't got my hands dirty in a while.

I opened this article hoping to see "I plea with you not to vote for the ILP"..pity, I thought you had come to your senses obviously not.

In my experience Indie Labour have produced good congress members. They're disciplined, respectful, and able to talk through each proposal.

Say what you will about their past governments, but they've always been dependable in congress. Even their opposition is forced to admit it.

"They're disciplined, respectful, and able to talk through each proposal."

This is what is wrong with this country. Game Mechanics and competence should be, beyond all shadow of a doubt, the most important thing a congressman should have. And ILP Congress members are severely lacking in this regard.

When the country starts prioritising discipline, respectfulness and the ability to be walked through a proposal you know something is wrong.

That's a bit of a straw man argument I'm afraid. A knowledge of the game's mechanics is an intrinsic necessity for any good member of congress, but the mechanics are only a means to an end. Without an earnest commitment to a cooperative and open discussion a sound knowledge of what particular buttons do won't prevent the wrong ones being pushed.

Indie Labour has many fine members who are both well informed and a joy to work with. It's not that complicated.

What? You completely ignored every point I made.

Unfortunately Ian, as you should be aware of, Game Mechanics is not an intrinsic necessity of a Congress person and in ILP eyes not necessary in a President either.

This is not a complicated game, though obviously you with your minimal amount of experience is unaware of that, cooperation and open discussion are not prerequisite to making the right decision. One button does one thing and one thing only. Discussion and cooperation are not necessary to press the right button.

We here in eIreland have created "extra features" that are irrelevant to how this game works and these features are largely community based and so they may or may not require "earnest commitment to a cooperative and open discussion" but they do not affect the game. They do not require game knowledge but they are in fact largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of the game.

I'm not arguing that you find them a "joy to work with" or that they are not well informed with regards to community work but beyond that they're next to useless. And before you attempt to further argue your invalid point they have proven this beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Not a single ILP member be they Congressman, President or what ever other position they have attained has doing anything of note in eIreland or around the world. They are the most average and unnecessary people I have ever met in this game.

The likes of Mannimarco at least strove for a goal or had ambition in his vision of eIrelands future or even his own and back in the day he was widely considered useless.

ILP have redefined what us oldies perceived as useless.

and on this point "many fine members"

What do you regard as "fine"? As in morally or ethictically "fine". they don't swear, use bad language, multi (not true) or steal? If so then Yes they are fine people.

But that should be completely unnecessary when running or operating a position of power. (Once it doesn't involve your allies)

ethically*

To be fair I didn't ignore your point, the problem was that you were arguing against your own misrepresentation of my position (that's called a straw man argument).

Fair enough if you don't see me as a contributor to eIreland, but I have spent a lot of time working on articles and projects that try to give people access to learning about game mechanics. A fair amount of my articles actually deal with the theme of how game mechanics trump real life concepts that people try to apply to the game.

I'm not saying that the average Indie Labour member is a tactical genius, because that's not what I require from a congress member. Really all I've been trying to say is that when it comes to the regular pitfalls in congress (careless impeachments, trying to raise minimum wage, rhetoric based tax proposals, dangerous NE proposals) there are a lot of ilp members who I trust to do their jobs correctly. They also tend to participate in the discussions that help get congress on the same page so that we can pass important props and vote down bad ones.

If anything the only conflict in views that I'm seeing between you and me, is that you may see congress as deserving more autonomy than I do. I have very little faith in the average congress representative and prefer them not to consider the sketchy elections an excuse to pretend they're in a position of power. Congress is just a check and balance.

Anyway I might prefer to evaluate each congress member individually rather than in terms of parties, since I think we're both on thin ice by trying to generalize about large groups. Every party has it's dependable straight edges and it's loose cannons. I'm being honest when I say that I can think of a lot of ilp members that I've seen do a good job in congress, but ultimately I was just trying to support some political unity. Sorry about that.

Just a reminder to everyone the ILP is quite proud of letting any socalist/communist into the coubtry on the condition they join their ranks.

Please join a party that puts Ireland ahead of its own glory/rank.

This is seriously wrong.
Kunts are probably the only ones who aren't actually putting Ireland ahead of its own rank

It is not in any shape or form wrong and you know it.
They let 3 Socialists into the country with only their own consent. When congress agreed on protocol Winston declared his party would not follow it.
Are you denying that happened?
I see its so easy to buy you, when once you spoke out against the ILP now you lie for them.

We are the only party to give out weapons and food. How is that putting ourselves above eIreland?

What party let you in Hank?

As State Prior i throw a curse at this article!

ILP is followring false prophet Geraldius who is a servant of SATAN!
As result ILP is not to be elected in congress.

ILP is dependable?

Yes if we ignore the worst and the biggest massive robbery under ILP watch.

They chose challenged person to represent ILP on CP elections.

From soo many ILP members they could not find a better candidate but a challenged person who needed 4 handlers just to do nothing.

Then ILP made a deal with orcs to vote for a challenged person and basically it was Orcs who voted their candidate into position

Their coorporation with the orcs continued when ILP tried to stop Kurgan STO of orc party

ILP said they were betrayed?
Cydp as young player saw ILP working together with the orcs...so he did a logical move and let orcs stay in their new home.

Not only that...as a true Messiah he saw the truth....if the largest party chose a challenged person to represent them on CP elections...if that person is the best they can offer to ireland...that there is only one solution.

As a true Messiah Cydp realised he can't let a bunch of incompetent people in congress and ruin this wretched land....even more.
And considering ILP was in fact made a few good deals with orcs Cydp saw orcs as a logical choice to replace with...

Dependable?
ILP betrayed the very person who loved them so much it returned them their party back and did not hesitate to sacrifice his PP position even to limited his entetainment with the orcs.

Yes ILP you betrayed Kurgan...i supported you in so many ways...
Always vocal...even when most of you were to scared to defend yourself.

And you betrayed Kurgan coz you could not handle the fact one creature of Faith saved you...and all of you atheists and heretics could not do together..

Kurgan, while I may not agree with all the above do not ever feel I am not grateful for your part in the deal that got our Party back. You did not have to do it...but you did and I, for one, will always remember that...thanks!

And i will remeber how your party betrayed me.
Geraldius is your spokesperson so he speak in behalf of all ILP including you.

I always helped your party..always supported ILP in public...
Even after you tried to stop my STO of orcs i didn't take that against you
I actually offered furhter help after.

And how you returned my friendship?

Yes i am the one who will not forget your betrayal....

And "part of the deal"?
I was the only part of that deal that worked in behalf of ILP.

You did not had to insult The Word but you did!

Orcs never insulted The Word i expected they will...and i would not mind coz they have been evil.
But when humaans who i found friends ridicule The Word that is something quite different.

Tell me WHS how non-ILP people were defending ILP like i did?
I was vocal in defending you more then many of you from ILP leadership

You did not had to insult The Word but you did!

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think you will find Gerald thinks this is a mutual "fun" troll but it obviously is not. In that light I am asking Gerald to stop the "game" as one party does not feel it is a game.

Kurgan, I happen to know the ILP is still grateful to you and if you feel you part in the deal was "betrayed" it concerns me. I will bring this to our Leadership Board and ask the PP to contact you.

There is nothing funny in ridiculling a FAITH!
Not when is done by the one i once considered a friends.

Orcs or anyone else i don't give a crap can ridicule coz they are under control of SATAN!
And yet even orcs never did that! I expected and hoped they will so i could fight with them....but they DIDN'T...THE ORCS!

You and your leadership approved this ridicule by leaving Gerald as spokesperson of ILP!

You talk about respect atheist....then try to respect different belifs...like belifs in Heavens.

With friends like ILP who needs enemies...

ur all boring as fuark .and simpletons

"ur all boring as fuark .and simpletons"

You, Sir, just proved meaning of simpleton

But mufc we can learn so much from padraig's perfect english grammar.
You know how he hates when we use english wrong way...

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That's actually a colloquial phrase in Ireland, Croat.

phrase among challenged irish maybe.

But fear not...The Word accepts all humaans....even retarded one...
It accepted me.......even more will you guys...

eIrish politics are why there are so many eIrish distilleries

If you aren't in congress how are you in any position to say what "congress resembled"