A letter from ME to ATLANTIS
Siddy
When you'll be reading this, Argentina would have left ATLANTIS. That's not my decision, but the decision of our congress with more than 80% of the votes and the decision of the vast majority of Argentinean people. But, before leaving the alliance, it could be a good thing to clarify that we're leaving the alliance in a legit way, the way that the ATLANTIS charter specifies.
The Atlantis treaty has been violated more than once, by many countries.
This treaty says that wars should be announced to all members 48 hours before starting the declaration. In two times in the two months I've spent here, a war was declared by an ATLANTIS member without I nor the other presidents knowing about it, strangely enough, those two breakings come from countries in which we're seen as traitors
Atlantis is a defensive alliance. However we were required to attack. Even the spanish government blamed us for not attackign to support their attack, when we were not forced to, and not even asked to. Then, when we had to defend Argentina, the defense was clearly not enough. At the same time, one ATLANTIS country did 7 times more damage in another battleground than in Argentina.
In those 7 days we were getting out, we were expected to help Sweden in their RW (RW are not included in ATLANTIS treaty) and Spain in their attacks (not included neither in the ATLANTIS treaty). But before those 7 days were gone, I had my access to ATLANTIS forum first restricted and then cancelled. If we were those last 2 months a second-rate country in ATLANTIS, those last 7 days had us relegated to a third-rate. This was ashaming.
But we’re not complaining for this, we only want you to see that we haven’t worked as a real alliance. Since things gone bad on the French front, for being more exact. People started to sign peace treaties without other members’ knowledge and to declare wars and think about expand their territories while a member nation was being attacked. Now you’re losing the only door that Atlantis had with Indonesia, an important and strategically point that some of you haven’t appreciated as it deserved.
We're not talking only about breaching rules, we're talking about breaching the spirit of the alliance. Let me say you that this is not the ATLANTIS our president saw 2 months ago when reached presidency, or the ATLANTIS that our MoFA joined , 4 months ago.
We all have seen a troubling deep lack of communication, and I daresay a lack of foresight, spending a lot of gold and lots of weapons in the French front, when everyone knew that Argentina were going to be attacked soon or later.
We really appreciate your help and even friendship in some cases, but Argentinean people feels like Atlantis is not a secure option for us anymore. Even with our mpps activated, we were losing Cuyo if a bug hasn’t saved us.
I'd like to have a few lines about Cuyo. Fact is that a bug had saved us because when indoensians conquered the region the battle was started again at time 0. Fact is that when the "help" came, the battle did end 30 minutes ago, and wasn't finished for the ceasefire agreement and that bug. We were not going to break a ceasefire and profit ourselves for a bug precisely because we're not traitors, traitors to our word, our honour and the game itself. The non-written rules of the game, like some ATLANTIS member said when talking against PEACE.
All this issues have a solution, but now Argentinean people don’t trust Atlantis anymore. We want to wish luck for you in the future, especially to Croatia and Finland; we hope you won’t have to suffer this issues and Atlantis will start to work as an alliance again, moved by your new blood. But it will have to work without us. Even if I personally was convinced to stay, our congress (who voted 80% to go out) would veto anything and the people wouldn't fight for something they don't see as theirs
And this is not an obligation from Indo or Brazil in order to sign a peace treaty with them. Argentina does this voluntarily, Argentinean people have asked us to do this. We’ll remain neutral until our Congress, who represents the will of the people says other thing, so we hope we could maintain good relations with all of you, especially with those who were fighting with us until the end.
This is not a forever farewell, but it's just that THIS Argentina can't be on THIS Atlantis on THIS situation. Maybe soon one of those THIS will change and thus we could rethink the situation soon, but for the moment, we cannot. The daw ATLANTIS is an alliance and not a gang, would be a day in which we will congratulate you. However, This day isn't today, and won't be tomorrow.
@ All who calls us traitors: Congratulations for not understanding the game, or being unable to see it thanks to your selfishness, anyway we counsider ourselves to be betrayed, not to be traitor.
We're not in PEACE. We have no MPP with indonesia. We tried to get a MPP with Spain, our longtime allies, who helped us and were helped by us on the last war, but their congress refused, amisdt roars that were calling us traitors. I tried all what I could and from now on will not feel responsible for the actions of the Argentineans, who individually are encouraged to follow freely their thoughts.
Thanks
Siddy
President of eArgentina
(I'm writting this article in just a few countries who got involved in that mess instead of spamming all the world. Take Indonesia and Brazil as representatives for all PEACE countries)
Comments
Petrobrax.
Lemmie read it.
Uh oh...your ex friends from atlantis wont be happy at all.
If you decide to remain neutral, we surelly will respect it.
If you decide to join PEACE, we'll happily welcome you, hermanos!
Well, I don't think that in this New World Argentina can stay as neutral for a long time. Atlantis(Romania) prove that attaking neutral and peaceful countries as Russia.
E pra todos, daremos a Mesopotânia mesmo após o próprio Congresso e Presidente da Argentina terem aqui dito que a Argentina não irá se juntar à PEACE?
Ou seja, após toda a luta que tivemos para conquistar essa região, gastaríamos nosso GOLD para iniciar a resistência, além de devolver a Mesopotânia para eles?
E o que nós ganharíamos com isso já que eles não irão se juntar à PEACE?
Para mim isso é uma derrota ao atual governo, e das bravas, já que os atuais Ministro da Defesa e Presidente do Brasil concordaram com o contrato de devolução da Mesopotânia com gasto de GOLD brasileiro.
-.-
QuartaBraxx! LOL
Yes, Welcome to the good side Argentinians
Tiago, como você falou, não existe lado neutro no eRep... Basta olhar o que aconteceu com a Rússia...
Depois de ter conseguido independência da Noruega, declarou-se neutra... Dias depois foi atacada pela Romenia e, após não conseguir vencer militarmente, deu um golpe nas eleições...
Será que a Argentina não lembra disso?
Ou será que ela quer primeiro sair da Failantis para depois entrar na PEACE?!
E de qualquer maneira, gastamos gold, transformamos um país inimigo em amigo e acabamos com qualquer perigo de sermos atacados pelo sul... Não vejo como um gold mal gasto...
sp0t, a PEACE poderia muito bem ter dominado a Argentina se quisesse, a Indonésia por exemplo faria muito bem isso sozinha.
Do que que adianta termos um país neutro ao nosso lado? Se ele podia muito bem ser parte da Indonésia? Aí sim o perigo teria de fato acabado.
Agora termos firmado a paz com um país fraco militarmente como a Argentina, para eles nem se aliarem à nós mesmo depois de termos aceitado devolver um território que gastamos cerca de 300 GOLD do governo para conseguir?
ridículo.
Voted!
Good decision, Atlantis never supported Argentina as they should...
If you decide to join PEACE, we'll happily welcome you, hermanos! [2]
Tiago, o perido nunca acaba, mesmo quando ao nosso lado está um país aliado. Não estou duvidando da honra indonésia, tenho muitos amigos e sócios naquele país, mas alianças são coisas criadas pelo homem, e tudo que o homem cria um dia acaba.
mantenha seus amigos perto, e mais ainda seus inimigos.
Are you REALLY considering go back to Atlantis? I mean, after they failed with you, after all the insults, are you and your people willing to forgive them just like that?
You fought fiercely and gained the respect of many from PEACE, don't throw that away humiliating yourselves forgeting what they did, let's unite latin-america once and for all, besides, in PEACE your enemies would have to get through us to get to you, you'd be safe and in a REAL alliance.
Anyway, good choice getting out of Atlantis, it's a good start, even if you decide not to join PEACE.
Antonio, melhor sendo aliado do que neutro.
Ainda mais quando após termos gasto muito GOLD ainda devolvemos o que com muita luta conseguimos.
Hey Siddy
Join to PEACE!
Voces viajama demais... Em algum momento o presidente da Argentina disse que a Argentina não irá entrar na PEACE.
Está nas mãos do congresso argentino.
I agree with Kieri o/
@Cavalcanti:
"Even if I personally was convinced to stay"
"This is not a forever farewell, but it's just that THIS Argentina can't be on THIS Atlantis on THIS situation. Maybe soon one of those THIS will change and thus we could rethink the situation soon, but for the moment, we cannot."
"We're not in PEACE."
Ele não disse, mas do jeito que ele falo me parece que ele não quer descartar a opção de voltar pra Atlantis. Eu só falei oque falei pra que se ele leia perceba que é burrada voltar.
@HEPAragorn: o/
Going to ATLANTIS isn't contemplated for anytime soon.
Going to PEACE is something our citzens are debating about.
you known you have my support Siddy
Good decision,
Ask PEACE member for help to defense if any attack come after this article publish,
I as a citizen of PEACE country will surely and gladly help to defense.
I couldn't stop myself from laughing so much.... "Atlantis is a defensive alliance." xD
@Siddy at least this way you people get to keep you're proud and honour...
@TiagoCamargo
Concordo plenamente com você. Ter um país neutro ao nosso lado não irá adiantar em nada. Seria melhor q a Indonésia tivesse conquistado as regiões Argentinas.
Porém, se é pra ser desse jeito, poderiam tentar o "plano país"(http://ebrasil.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=62)
Não ficaria triste de ver a Argentina na PEACE, mas ela seria melhor como território nosso ou da Indonésia.
@Matheus: Não ganhariamos nada dominando a Argentina, eles não tem recursos que nós já não tenhamos, maior parte da população qualificada se mudaria só voltando pra tentar libertar o país, daria mais trabalho doque lucro, Argentina como neutro já é um passo para a América-Latina unida que seria o ideal.
Ahnnnn, então tem isso de matéria-prima também?
Então uma região que, na vida real, seja vai, infértil, vai ser no jogo também?
Ou ela começa com matéria-prima no máximo e vai descendo conforme vai usando?
Vlws, sabia não.
@Matheus: Pelo que eu entendi os admin pesquisam e veem que matérias primas tem cada região(entre Ferro, Diamantes, Óleo, Madeira e Grãos que seria fertilidade da terra eu acho), e o quanto de cada matéria prima tem. Não ela não acaba, só muda a produtividade das empresas do setor de Land.
Quando você ve uma região tem la em Productivity quanto de cada matéria essa região tem, se não falar de alguma é porque é o minimo.
¡Si señor! Las cosas claritas. Lo de ATLANTIS no tiene nombre. Es una alianza que hace aguas por todas partes. O se reestructura para que esto no vuelva a ocurrir o la refundamos en una nueva alianza con nuevos países.
Voted!
E de volta nosso brilhante e educado Ministro da Defesa...