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33 minutes in Congress [en/hu]

Day 1,742, 04:52 by Swooshy

This is my screenshot:



Here's the story


EN

You are welcome to comment.
BUT I don’t speak polish. So …

It all started with an old idea of mine: “It would be nice to have at least one of each medals.”
As a lot of other players, I think of this as a (very) long term goal.

I had a 9 types of medals. I was missing the Top Fighter, President, and Congress Medals only.

Top Fighter? Yeah right. Later. (a lot) later.
President? As a hungarian guy in Poland? Yeah right. :D

Congress Medal? I had no idea how this works.
I am a zero in Politics, and a zero in ePolitics. And that is not going to change soon.
I started to look around. I moved in Top 5 parties every month, candidating is easy. But then comes the Party President and switches you to someone who he trusts. And they do just that. I think I did this 4-5-6? times :) This was like fishing for the great white shark in my aquarium at home. I was sure i had no chance.

From the beginning, I had known for sure, that, even if I get in, I would never use any of the power a congressman has rights to. I find this very important to mention here. I only wanted to make the medal’s color yellow from grey. That is it. Maybe even taking a few screenshots for an article of the Congress Administration screen(s) ? because I had no idea how they look like, and how they work. Thought I would share, so people who never saw all that, could get an idea.

I don’t know what happened this weekend.
I got in.
Didn’t know why, didn’t know how. As a matter of fact I didn’t know a lot of other things either.

When I realised that I can start “campaigning” I wrote a message, that I would reward people who votes for me. But I actually promised a bit more that I should have. I had no idea that there are “laws” for this. I had somebody warn me (more info here: http://pokazywarka.pl/oecd7h/ - it is polish, but google translate does a pretty good job translating this) so after I got warned, I stopped offering.
I sent out a good amount of messages.

Later on, I got a PM saying “I heard that you are running for congress, was this all set up, talked, everybody is cool about it? There were other (hungarian) people also trying something like this, and it wasn’t pretty”. Well, I didn’t know about that either.

I got in touch with somebody important, who actually said that outsiders are actually forbidden to run for congress, and that I should immediately stop what I am doing.

I started to have my concerns.
Others would’ve had concerns probably, when reading stuff like this in PM-s:
“international conflict”
“penalties”
“enormous violation”
“If you want to keep polish CS ...”
“10000 CC penalty”
“ban for egov”
“...forget about congress ...”

Things were kindof out of my hand.

Saturday, I was out pretty much all day (IRL stuff) without being able to check on what is going on. I was thinking a lot though. What will happen?
In the evening, when I had an hour, I saw that I have something like 42 votes, and the second guy on the list has 3 or 4.

I sent out a few messages thanking people or apologizing people. But it was obvious that the gap is too big. I am going to win it. By that time, I decided that I will step down if I win. (if there is a resign button, like i said, i had no idea …)

The final numbers 52 for me, 5 for the runner-up.
Thanks a lot for the votes guys. Really appreciate it !

Sunday I waited for the “counting votes” stuff, and then, when I got the message, I resigned.
I was a congressman for 33 minutes.
Hmmm … I didn’t even take those screenshots after all.

Again:
I never meant to do anything bad. I know that a congressman can do a lot of things that, in a country like Poland, should not be abused of.
I didn’t want to abuse, but people with concerns about me, didn’t know me like friends from my Polish MU.
Not knowing about rules is not good enough defense. I know that too.
I did not want to do anything bad to my “reputation”. I mean if this was in a country that is not an ally, I didn’t care. But this is Poland, and I have a lot of friends here.

So.
Sorry again. Everybody. I hope someone else can learn from my example.

Something else:
Looking back on all this, I find it not hard enough for an outsider to get in congress. And it turned out that I could’ve win with 6 votes !!!! People should be more careful. If it was somebody else, somebody non-friendly …


HU

Az egesz ugy kezdodott, hogy “milyen jo lenne ha lenne mindegyik medalbol egy”
Sok mas jatekos van valoszinuleg aki ugyanigy van ezzel, de ez egy nagyon hosszutavu cel.
12-bol 9 megvolt, hianyzott a TF, Elnoki, es a Konga.

TF es Elnoki :) Na persze.
Konga? Foggalmam nem volt hogyan mukodik a rendszer. Csak azt hogy itt Lengyelorszagban ez valszeg meg nehezebb mint “otthon”. Elkezdtem probalkozni. Top 5 partokban jottem mentem minden honapban, (vagy 4-5-6? honapja mar) Jeloltetni magad nem nagy kunszt, de aztan jon a partelnok, es lecserel teged valakire akiben megbizik. Ez a dolga. Es jol csinaljak. Meg voltam gyozodve hogy semmi eselyem

Az elejetol fogva biztos voltam benne, hogy ha egyaltalan be is jutnek, nem elnek vissza semmifele joggal amit ez a medal biztosit. Ezt nagyon fontosnal találom megjegyezni. Csak az erdekelt, hogy a konga medalom legyen sarga.
Politika, ePolitika, nekem 8. nem erdekel.
Maximum gondoltam csinalok majd egy-ket screenshotot a konga admin modulban, hogy masok is lathassak hogy nez az ki.

Bejuttam.
Nem tudom mi lett. Tulajdonkeppen sok mindent nem tudtam.

Mikor rajottem hogy elkezdhetek kampanyolni, gondolkodas nelkul megtettem. Hiba volt. Valaki szolt hogy picivel tobbet ajanlottam egy szavazatert, mint ami “legalis” Lengyelorszagban. Ez mashol hogy van ? Csak mert lattam kampanyolni ellatmannyal masokat … (tobb info itt:: http://pokazywarka.pl/oecd7h/ - lengyelul, de a Google translate eleg jol leforditja)
Miutan ezt megtudtam, lealltam az ilyen tipusu kapmanyolassal.
Elment csomo PM.

Aztan kaptam egy uzenetet: “Hallom indulsz kongán lengyeleknél. erre kaptál engedélyt? Megbeszélted ezt polákokkal? Volt ebből már bonyodalom.”
Nos errol nem (sem) tudtam.

Felvettem a kapcsolatot egy Lengyel “fontos” emberrel is, és több helyröl kaptam olyan PM-eket, amiktol kezdtem nem jol erezni magam

Gondolom mások is igy ereztek volna, ha ilyeneket olvasnak:
“international conflict”
“penalties”
“enormous violation”
“If you want to keep polish CS ...”
“10000 CC penalty”
“ban for egov”
“...forget about congress ...”

Picit kicsuszott minden a kezembol.

Szombaton IRL dolgok, nagyjabol egesz nap offline voltam. Eleg sokat gondolkoztam azon hogy vajon mi lesz.
Este neztem es 42 szavazatom volt a masodiknak 3 vagy 4.

Elkuldtem par koszono es bocsanatkero uzenetet. Es eldontottem hogy ha nyerek is, le fogok lepni. Mar ha le lehet lenpi. Fogalmam nem volt, hogy vissza lehet-e lepni egyaltalan.

A vegso szamok: 52 nekem, 5 a masodik helyezettnek.
Meg egyszer nagyon koszonom a szavazatokat !

Vasarnap a szavazatszamlalasok utan meglett a medal. Raakadtam a Resign gombra, es ennyi.
Hmmm … Meg a screenshotokat is elfelejtettem megcsinalni a cikkhez.
33 percig voltam konga.

Osszefoglalva:
Nem akartam semmi rosszat, semmi hatterszandek nem volt. Tisztaban vagyok vele hogy egy konga tag sok olyan dologhoz hozzaferhet, amivel vissza lehetne élni.
Az hogy nem akartam semmi rosszat, az ilyenkor nem vilagos, mert nem ismernek.
Az hogy nem tudsz a szabalyokrol az meg nem ved meg teged ha vetesz ellenuk.
Nem szerettem volna rossz hiremet kelteni. Ha ez egy masik orszagban tortent volna, akkor nem zavart volna, de itt Lengyelorszagban sok a barát, es sok segitseget kaptam. Ezt semmikeppen nem akartam kockaztatni.

Megegyszer
Bocsanatot kérek. Mindenkitol. Remelem masok okulnak a peldambol

Meg valami
Visszanezve, utolag, ugy tunik nem eleg nehez ezt osszehozni. Ha nekem sikerult … 6 szavazat is eleg lett volna ! Ha valaki “baratsagtalanabb” csinalt volna ilyent …
 

Comments

Pety
Pety Day 1,742, 05:07

baráti országban általában nem szép dolog kongával probálkozni...pl ha az amcsiknál csináltad volna ezt még dicséretet is kaptál volna

Panterion
Panterion Day 1,742, 05:10

I talk with You from account Marshal Congress. I can confirm that you behaved quite alright.
You don't give any - CS !
You don't propose any law !
You wrote this article !

So I thnik if You destine Your 5g from Congress medal for charity - We can forget about the whole thing

Ogreshaman
Ogreshaman Day 1,742, 05:14

You wouldn't win with 6 votes. Parties always have many spare votes when time of voting comes to an end and they use it to jump over other candidates when difference in votes is small enough.
I appreciate yours attitude, I think it will be fine for every Pole. Regards ;]

Frenk Ace
Frenk Ace Day 1,742, 05:19

szerintem nem kell bocsánatot kérned

- ha a fékjeid juttattak be: ügyes vagy, hogy még nem buktál le
- ha nem a fékjeid juttattak be: 1xűen szimpi voltál nekik

Swooshy
Swooshy Day 1,742, 05:26

Frenk Ace, elolvastad mit irtam? sok PM et kuldtem ...
ha kell adok egy listat azokrol akik ram szavaztak ...

Kmab
Kmab Day 1,742, 05:43

I may only confirm, that Swooshy is completely apolitical.
And he is a trustworthy man

DivineLard
DivineLard Day 1,742, 05:44

: )
However any possible trouble coming from this would have been the responsibility of the party presidency that let you run.
Cheers

ss7pro
ss7pro Day 1,742, 05:52

To prawo o kupowaniu głosów jest głupie Podstawą powinna być mechanika gry. Na takiej samej zasadzie jak prezydent dostanie impeach niezgodny z waszymi ustaleniami i tak traci posadę prezia !

Panterion
Panterion Day 1,742, 05:53

Subject - "punish Swooshy". We can officially close right now. We both came to an agreement.
Thanks for your cooperation Swooshy

vejderr
vejderr Day 1,742, 07:31

Well, it doesn't matter if you just wanted your 5g or medal, you have used our country like a bitch just to get another achievement. Also there is unwritten rule for foreigners to do not involve in country politics, respect it ffs.

Mvhely
Mvhely Day 1,742, 07:42

Swooshy: Le a kalappal előtted. Bárcsak több ilyen ember lenne. A többinek kellene elhúzni eMagyarországról.

Sztandar
Sztandar Day 1,742, 07:52

"I talk with You from account Marshal Congress. I can confirm that you behaved quite alright.
You don't give any - CS !
You don't propose any law !
You wrote this article !"

Yup he deserves another medal for not screwing us completely! What a great ally, interested only in worthless medal, avoiding ANY FORM of cooperation with our gov, wasting a place in our congress as a result.

You are not a good ally and you are not welcome here. Go hunt your medals somewhere else.

Mustafa Kemal Atajerk
Mustafa Kemal Atajerk Day 1,742, 08:44

PTO Turkey, you may be valuable, now GTFO from Polish congress.

Mystela
Mystela Day 1,742, 08:54

Swooshy, "If it was somebody else, somebody non-friendly …" x 2

Swooshy did you a service. o7 He single-handedly, without ANY assistance from any of you, successfully won a congress seat, even though some knew while the election was still in progress. Apparently, you were unable to block him?

He wrote an article to explain the situation. It's really disappointing to see that you are too hot-headed to realize that he has pointed out a significant flaw in your system. So much for honesty...

tomekfaszcz
tomekfaszcz Day 1,742, 08:59

well done

Panterion
Panterion Day 1,742, 09:16

@Sztandar
- wiadomo, że sam start do konga dla medaliku i płacenie za głosy JEST DO DUPY
- zagraniczni nie powinni startować do kongu bo nie są w stanie ogarnąć naszych ustaw (ale jak pokazuje rzeczywistość i Ty i ja wiemy, że Polacy czasem też mają z tym problem ;P)

Gościa można pochwalić tylko za to, że w przeciwieństwie do wielu Polaków kupujących głosy, zachował się jak mężczyzna i gdy dowiedział się (ode mnie) o przepisach to, nie rozsyłał tych tanków (tak mówi) i zrezygnował z konga.

Panterion
Panterion Day 1,742, 09:17

Dodatkowo zgodził się na nałożenie kary którą spełnił.
Dzięki temu nie mamy chorej sytuacji z krzywymi ustawami lub rozdawaniem obków (czego niektóry Polscy kongresmeni nie umieją uszanować...)

I tylko o to mi chodziło pisząc, że na koniec dobrze zrobił

vejderr
vejderr Day 1,742, 09:17

@Mystela
He shouldn't run in the first place

romanian spy
romanian spy Day 1,742, 09:31

what does a pole do if a foreigner attempts to pto their congress?

he sends a crank letter.

: DDD
poles, oh my...

Kolorowy
Kolorowy Day 1,742, 09:52

How could he waste a seat in congress if all congressman are by definition useless? ;]

Flying Cangaroo
Flying Cangaroo Day 1,742, 09:57

Sad but true story!
It is tough against the Democracy!

Frenk Ace
Frenk Ace Day 1,742, 10:05

persze hogy elolvastam, csak a szmájli maradt le a végéről
itt van utólag: : D

mobra
mobra Day 1,742, 10:20

swooshy bammeb a románoknak ezért nincs brazil mppjük, mert ők hasonlót játszodtak brazíliában.
persze ők adtak ÁPkat és rendesen konga medálvadásztak.

Sztandar
Sztandar Day 1,742, 12:04

Panterion, pełna zgoda co do tego, że mógł zaszkodzić znacznie bardziej i z nieciekawej sytuacji wyszedł zasadniczo z twarzą. Nie zmienia to jednak faktu jego roszczeniowo-egoistycznego podejścia, a to nie jest pierwszy lepszy random, tylko 2nd commander Legionu. Takim "sojusznikom" mówię głośne WON, chcesz medalik konga - wbij go u siebie. Chcesz bonusy do produktywności - wbij do nas, ale znaj swoje miejsce.

CheDavid
CheDavid Day 1,742, 12:32

Swooshy le a kalappal előtted! Okultál belőle és ez a lényeg /na meg persze,h a medál is meglett/ : D

Defender of Ascalon
Defender of Ascalon Day 1,742, 12:54

Nehéz szitu, szerencsétlen ügy lett belőle. Ami nekünk csak játék - másoknak lehet nagyon komoly dolog. Mind gyarlók vagyunk - de az is érthető, amit most ők éreznek, hogy adtak ÁP-t, és egy ally ezt medálszerzésre használta.

Én azt gondolom, kár volt kapkodni. Nem tudom, mit leveleztetek a háttérben, de esetleg lehettél volna egy közvetlenebb kapcsolattartó, aki pl. megszűri, hogy ki kap lengyel ÁP-t, ezt továbbítottad volna (vagy kezesség), és mindkét fél jól járt volna. Hm?

Kolorowy
Kolorowy Day 1,742, 13:54

spokojnie, przeciez to tylko gra, niejeden Polak wbija do konga po medalik i 5 gold a na jego miejsce moglbyc ktos bardziej "wartosciowy", takim Polakom tez moznaby powiedziec WON, ale co, sa RL polakami to maja prawo? wg mnie afera z niczego, gra dla PL, realizuje swoje cele i ambicje jak kazdy z nas, przy czym stara sie jak najmniej zaszkodzic innym (to juz w odroznieniu od niektorych z nas), nie widze problemu

interpuknkcja do bani, ale jestem troche leniwy ;]

Kolorowy
Kolorowy Day 1,742, 13:54

Tyle trollingu do ogarniecia, nie mam czasu na interpunkcje ;] o/

ManInDaWood
ManInDaWood Day 1,742, 14:04

Most important rule for non-polish ppls is that u can't run for congress. That's why ePolish Congress does not look like the one in eUSA.

Kmab
Kmab Day 1,742, 15:17

@Sztandar, I disagree
Swooshy is one of our best soldiers, always fulfilling MoD orders - you may check in egov his activity. Obviously I have mixed feelings about methods he came to a medal. I am against buying votes, but it was one-shot action and I am far away from condemning him - I understand him. Swooshy has chosen Poland, lives, works and fights here. He is loyal citizen. What would you do if you were him to get a medal?
I've seen congressmen with PL CS, doing worser things then him.

Sztandar
Sztandar Day 1,742, 15:59

I didn't wrote a word about his military career and I didn't question his loyalty. The point is, he used ePL just to get stupid medal and now we have 1 vote less both on forums and ingame; keep in mind Cerber's impeachment attempt. Single vote matters.

"What would you do if you were him to get a medal?"

1. come back
2. get original CS
3. run for congress

Go be Congressman or CP in your own country. Is this really that hard?

Pety
Pety Day 1,742, 22:40

ok he was stupid, but he is not an agressive TOer...just a stupid hungarian, we fought and will fight for PL if needed, and i can say this in the name of swooshy too : )

paulnest
paulnest Day 1,743, 01:05

you didn't do anything wrong. 52 votes for you meant that you belonged to that congress, and epolitics are just too beaurocratic to see that. especially when other congressmen usually buy votes or use bots. besides, 1 congressman couldn't really hurt in any major way.

btw, judging from some comments, you really could use some normal allies, you know)

Kmab
Kmab Day 1,743, 01:29

@Sztandarowy,

"Go be Congressman or CP in your own country. Is this really that hard?" - Poland is his country ;P

Bagman666
Bagman666 Day 1,743, 02:10

naprawdę, robicie z igły widły... ja sam startowałem do kongresu z tego samego powodu co i on, też mam paru znajomych w ePL i też się dostałem do kongresu.

baaa, powiem więcej, zdarzało mi się 4fun sprzedawać CSy oraz głosować inaczej niż zostało postanowione na forum, tudzież popierać ustawy, które na forum w ogóle nie były... i NIKT nie zwrócił mi nawet uwagi

a on zanim jeszcze się dostał już został zjebany jak gówno...

prawdziwa polska gościnność...

nanto
nanto Day 1,743, 03:00

The fault is on the side of the PP who accepted you as a foreigner to run for congress. You did well o/

tomas004PGU
tomas004PGU Day 1,743, 04:00

Sztandar+nanto=moja opinia

Juve Leo
Juve Leo Day 1,743, 07:35

Współpraca protokołu PDU i Narodowa Demokracja http://www.erepublik.com/pt/article/wsp-praca-protoko-u-pdu-i-narodowa-demokracja-2110713/1/20

Flying Cangaroo
Flying Cangaroo Day 1,743, 08:04

"The fault is on the side of the PP who accepted you as a foreigner to run for congress. You did well o/" +1

... or the one you gave him polish CS

Johnny Scott
Johnny Scott Day 1,743, 12:09

Azért nyekeregnek, mert rájöttek van rés a pajzson... Megdolgoztál érte ; - )

 
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