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❗ the Aegis is born!
erepublik.com/en/article/2693351
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https://www.erepublik.com/br/article/2693305

Good luck with the alliance!

thank you!

say what

they offered me to join it I was like wth

@Dio: eraclea: i was asking for your help, and thats true.
will you join our alliance, then?
it will be a good, defensive alliance.

@rainy sunday: i've asked your CP, mr Slua, and he promised to help me.
ask him about it, please.

this is him:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4645769

i already did ask him before i commented here.

pretty sure i know who my CP is, thanks

he promised to help me, yet he didnt replied back.

also: yes, lol

👏👏👏👏👏

''clap clap clap clap''

i did my best to help my e-country.
there is no shame in that.

I didn't say the opposite. I do support your effort. Really.
What I'm annoyed with is that you mentioned as members countries that did not show any sign of acceptance for the alliance. If their future govs accept/enjoy your alliance, that's great, but until then it's not cool to mention something that isn't true.

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thank you!

Belgium will not be part of this alliance. Never have we expressed any interest in joining it. You reached out to our CP twice and got no reply. Instead of waiting on a reply from us or giving up on us you not only lie in your article but I'd wager in your ticket to the admins to create your alliance as well.

We are quite happy with our neutrality in the current state of international relations and have no intention of losing that freedom by aligning with another country which, if we're perfectly honest our only common trait with is being a smaller community.

I would therefore ask that you remove Belgium from the member list in this article as well as the alliance page description so that other don't get confused as well.

All that being said, we're not against having friendly relations with Switzerland, but we're not joining an alliance for the sake of joining an alliance.

Worst Swiss CP and government ever, don`t mind them. It`s shame that they hit the ground and continue digging down. :/

please stop it now and please delete this comment

As to keep everything into the open: https://i.imgur.com/mtnWbR9.png

"dear prime minister of belgium, hello!"

Hello!

"im chris jonadicus, the swiss CP."

I'm Curlybear, Belgium's Prime Minister.

"i ve heard from some members of my congress that you have spoken with one of our congressmen (emperor), and that you've shown your disdain about me asking you to join my alliance."

You can check yourself above the only comment we've issued on the matter. It's more surprise and annoyance rather than disdain.

"first of all, i have contacted + PM'ed your CP, (director9) repeatedly and many times about my alliance, and not only i didnt got any replies back, i've been ignored and treated with unfair scorn+ignorance from your current goverment."

Yes we're aware you've been really pushy about starting an alliance. Your first message was 14 days ago and we've debated with the idea internally. We're a very slow paced country. We don't feel the need to rush things especially when it comes to something as serious as an alliance. 14 days is ridiculously short to try and set up an alliance from nothing. Just the way you talk to us in this message comforts me in our decision to keep away from your alliance.

"should a small and isolated e-country such as belgium treat a fellow small+neutral nation like that?
how such a bad attitude of rudeness and ignorance towards a potential ally be considered a good diplomatic act?
note: you could refuse to join my alliance, but you SHOULD reply back.
(and by ''you'' i mean both your country president/CP, mr director9, and all of you in the belgian goverment+congress).
we might not deserve much, but we DO deserve a reply."

Because you're a small nation and us as well doesn't mean we owe you anything. Your entitled attitude is really out of place. Yes, we could have handled this better with a reply asking for more time to reply to your inquiry, but in no case should this have been taken for an agreement to join as you seemed to understand it for some reason.

"furthermore, i am not lying about belgium being in our alliance, i simply did it in order to add some political incentive towards your nation, so that you would be either inspired or challenged to join my alliance, or to help me form it, at teh very least."

You can cut the political incentive bullshit right there. It's a lie plain and simple. You tried strong arming us into something we do not want and we don't take kindly to such manipulations.

"lastly, could you do me a favor?
do you have any screenshots from your current PM's with the user ''emperor of switzerland''?
i need to have some info about my congress, so that i can discuss this with them."

We've had no contact with any of your citizens on this matter. The only comment Emperor of Switzerland has made is in the comment above.

"also: i will remove belgium from the alliance's member list."

Thank you.

"please reply back, and dont ignore me this time."

Done 😉

mr curly bear, your behavior is simply awful, for a lack of a better(?) word.

your goverment has been ignoring me for a long time, and when your CP slua initially agreed to help me, i was expecting an answer, to no avail.

both you, as belgium's PM and director9, the belgian CP, should've replied back to me, instead of acting like children and ignoring me for a long period of time.
we need answers.
you could've replied back, and yet you didnt.

who is

also, about your quotes:

1) i have addressed you as the belgian PM. are you not the belgian PM? 😉

2) ''It's more surprise and annoyance rather than disdain.''

you should still reply back to my PM's, and not to ignore me like that.

3) ''We're a very slow paced country.''

i didnt knew that. you should reply back, and inform me of your rejection proposal.

4) ''that doesn't mean we owe you anything.''

i shall answer again with this:

''we might not deserve much, but we DO deserve a reply.''

switzerland deserved an answer to this, even a rejection, but still, an answer.
thats all i asked for.
if you PM'ed me back and told me of your rejection, i would accept it and move on.
all this was your fault.

5) ''Yes, we could have handled this better with a reply asking for more time to reply to your inquiry''

you definitely should, sir.

we deserved an answer.
you were rude, impolite and arrogant towards me and towards a kind question regarding a swiss-centered alliance, an alliance that would protect all small countries like you and us.

6) ''It's a lie.''

im not lying. please learn some manners, and dont insult me like that.
i havent insulted you.

my sole reason for adding you into our alliance's charter, was in order to add some political incentive towards your nation, so that you would be either inspired or challenged to join my alliance, or to help me form it, at the very least...

after the alliance would be formed, i would ask you again if you wanted to join us or not.
(i did PM'ed you again, but noone answered back. your goverment is the epitome of rudeness and of arrogance.)

7) ''Thank you.''
like i said, i will remove you from our alliance charter.
reply back to our PM's, next time.

😎 ''Done 😉''
such smug and insulting behaviour is quite annoying to see.
i am disappointed by your rude goverment and by you, who not only refused to reply back to my PM's, but you've been rude and snarky against me as well.

read your PM's, and answer back to people, mr belgian PM.
(the same goes to your isolationist+rude goverment as well).

leave curly alone, you bully.

So yeah your whole reply is about being offended by us not replying to you in a timely manner, for which I have admitted we should have. You're adding malice where there was only negligence on our part on that regard.

The fact that you listed us as supporting member for your alliance is in all shape and form, a lie. You said yourself we never replied, therefore we couldn't have agreed to help you in your endeavor. Giving us "political incentive" is basically trying to turn our own citizens against us trying to make them think we've joined an alliance while we have not. Shame for you that most of our population doesn't really care for what happens outside our borders. But in no way is this an acceptable way to deal with other countries when you're trying to get something from them.

And of course I'm going to be slightly smug about it all, you brought this all on yourself 😉

mr curly bear, i have not insulted you, nor have i ''asked your people to turn against you''.
all i did was ask you for your support and for an answer, and you didnt give anything back.

you didnt want to join our alliance? no problem!
but reply back.
thats what a proper gentleman and a serious country's CP/PM/official member would do.

you reply back.
you say: ''no thanks, we dont need to join your alliance, have a nice day''.
instead you ignored me, and when i made a political maneuver (with no intention to harm you or your country/goverment), you only answered then, and only then, with insults and accusations.

who's the real bully in here, mr n0se?
i think that mr curlybear is, and his team of the (current) belgian goverments who prefers to ignore other people with pretending to be superior.

like i said before, we might be a small country sir, but we deserve an answer.
even a negative one.

have a nice day, and dont bother replying back to this message, i will follow the ''belgian goverments'' route on this. 😉

Uh, I play CS:GO.

Why would Ireland be part of the alliance? Ireland is not an ally of Switzerland.

It seems like a great alliance!

i was negotiating with the CP of ireland, in order to form a defensive alliance between switzerland and ireland, and i was going to add more small countries into it.

our current affairs between ireland+switzerland are irrelevant.
the point of all this was to strengthen the ties between switzerland+ireland (or to form new relations with ireland, that is), and to also add many small, like-minded countries into our alliance.

talking about something and joining it are two entirely different things, we have not joined it, please remove all references to ireland being a member as its false and gives people misleading information.

i've removed you.

i would never harm or damage anyone or anything.

if anything, this was a misunderstanding. (about ireland.)
(e-belgium was a different case).

please remove Ireland from this alliance members list as the irish congress did not vote or discuss it in any shape or form, like ebelgium we were not consulted and the first ireland knew about this was the article.

@nogin:
i've asked your CP, mr Slua, and he promised to help me.
ask him about it, please.

this is him:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4645769

if you still feel that way, i will remove you from the alliance's list.

you might have talked to him, but nothing was agreed, nothing about this alliance was brought to congress to vote on, so remove us from the list/article, before ireland joins any alliance it will need congress approval and then a peoples vote to ratify it.

He nogin he thinks you needed a link to our CP 😛

i've removed you.

i would never harm or damage anyone or anything.

if anything, this was a misunderstanding. (about ireland.)
(e-belgium was a different case).

thank you

I think the name is cool...not much else but hey cool name 😛

hey, at least it has a cool name!
now all we need is more members!

All you need is some sense of tact. Adding countries without their consent is not the way an alliance should be made. U were asked to remove ireland and belgium from the article, but they are still there. What for?

croMieIga: you are lying.
i have already removed belgium and ireland from the alliance's charter, and you can check it out, if you want.

in the case of ireland it was a misunderstanding, while belgium was a very different case.
thank you.

Lol i felt i should include the screenshot with the comment. Good job man, spoil relationships with as many ppl as possible 😃

I would not be surprised if Armenia and Nigeria follows suit by denying 😉

All I see is false of a alliance network, adding the likes of Ireland and Belgium and yet they have denied joining. In my opinion this looks more as a April fools joke coming early 🤷‍♂️

To further critic this alliance, the logo looks rather amatuerish that is easily done by simple use of Microsoft Paint. Furthermore, sentences began with lowercase especially the country name starts with lowercase.

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it was a legitimate attempt to form a medium-sized alliance that would consist of many smaller
e-nations that would cooperate with, work and help each other in all aspects of the game: militarily, politically and socially, in the general ''battlefield'' of the e-world.

nothing was false in there:
in the case of ireland it was a misunderstanding, while belgium was a very different case.

all the other participants in that alliance were legitimate and helpful, unlike the (then) rude government and CP of e-belgium or the undecisive CP of e-ireland (at the time), who initially agreed to join us, but he failed to inform his congress about it.

as for your further criticism against our alliance, the logo is simple and with minimalism in mind : less is more, and elegance can be found in simple shapes and designs.
only a naive person would deem such an attempt as ''amateurish''.

indeed, some sentences began with lowercase letters, but that changed later, in the revision of the alliance's main text and first charter.

lastly, i didnt think that nations should get the high honour of a capital first letter in their names...

next time, leave your vitriol behind, and get your facts straight, buddy.

Chris is a sad joke. No idea why he was elected Swiss CP.