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Where's my Italian dub?

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voted for leaks

I feel informed now

reported congress for feeding

Quit slacking. There's more

stop acting all srs bzns jus cause you're in public now 😛

I've always been in public eye 😛

nope, i'm getting a srs choirboy vibe here

Top leakz. Eddie Snowy would be proud

May as well say it here, seeing as there is some grey area over what I make of it all:

Firstly it isnt my place to have an opinion or take sides in any debate, because I aim to be impartial. But what I have tried to convey is that Congress needs to reach some sort of decision on whether we will manage money in the way described above (as every other country in the world tends to do, for reasons of practicality) or if we will specify where money is spent in budgets to make it fairer/more transparent, which is what I think the problem raised by NL is.

Secondly I think the clause on the wiki page about dictators doesn't apply to these circumstances as I do not monitor spending and it is impractical for me to regulate or rubber stamp cash movement, because that gives me a great deal more power than any impartial dictator should have. The wiki as far as I know, does not contain binding rules for erep players because half of it is poorly written or incorrect, and the part in question refers to periods of time when power is being transferred after a succesful coup. I have discussed that with NL in private.

Thirdly, that governments throughout time have managed their finances themselves and with military spending it has never been unusual for individuals involved in defence to hold money on their person, and if there is an issue with CO being set from a private MU then I refer back to my first statement on how Congress need to decide whether or not that is okay for practical reasons or whether all cabinet members who handle cash should be forced to leave their MU's to do so, which seems to be what is suggested.

My precise remarks to Neil were that it is something that congress should 'look in to', but how they use to do so 'inquiry' 'investigation' or even 'debate' were not things that I passed comment on, and I hope my personal opinions dont influence any cabinet or congress members as they navigate what I am sure will be a lively and productive discussion.

Anyone would think you're still at uni with that essay

"what I am sure will be a lively and productive discussion."

You held it together that whole time but couldn't resist cracking a joke at the end, huh?

I think we need an enquiry into the enquiry that enquiries whether or not an enquiry into whether or not an equiry is enquiriable is erm.... Damn... I've lost track of what I was saying....

Please ignore the above.... Any enquiries asking me to explain will lead to a enquiring look of "Is this important???"

We need an inquiry into why you kept spelling 'inquiry' as 'enquiry'

Actually you can use both "enquiry" or "inquiry" as per :

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/enquire-or-inquire

Inquiry is considered more of an Americanism - I think a new inquiry or enquiry should be launched to see if you are a multi of an American citizen....

(and I have now spelt both words so many times, both look wrong)

There we go. Inquiry is complete

shoulda voted popovic, i feel

Finally someone saying something more practical and smart 😃 🙂

Great article.and the leaks.Keep going on Astrid 🙂

So all the CO s which appeared to be set by nifty in the days prior to an election in which one of the candidates had nifty plastered on their profile, were actually set using our tax money, no conflict of interest there and no chance voters would support AMD thinking nifty members and their candidate were generously helping eUK.

300k surplus rather screws the argument for keeping taxes so high.

huh?

I do a language A level and I still can't translate this into english

I think he is implying that taxpayer money was used to set COs but in the run up to the election, it was implied that Nifty were spending their own money and therefore were golly good chaps - hence taxpayer money was indirectly used as a publicity stunt (even if the motivation to using taxpayer money was perfectly valid and not intended to boost the profile of the person setting the COs)

OOoooooohhhh

oh

who cares tho

300k is a single round in a fierce battle... if you're lucky.

The rest of it I will leave for someone sensible to refute.

When someone writes sense they pretend not to understand to undermine you lucky I'm here to call them out and you are 100% right!

In your mind everything you write makes perfect sense (to you maybe) but no one has a clue what you are usually talking about...

I don't think anyone from Nifty ever, explicitly or implicitly said that it was our own personal cash. In fact the vast majority of the cash the eUK spent on COs was done from the MoD MU in the days before the election, Nifty was only used as a back up.

Besides, why would people support AMD based on the actions of an MU?

And no, the fact we were able to run a 300k surplus validates the argument for higher taxation- its being able to save up a reserve that was precisely the reason for it.

All comes down to perception I suppose... People see the Nifty MU post up some COs, and then see people posting under the Nifty banner promoting one of their members in the election... Two plus Two equals..............


Of course, Lee1609 could be a multi considering the age of the account and the fact I've not really seen the name posting too much...

"And no, the fact we were able to run a 300k surplus validates the argument for higher taxation"

Yes and no... it has always been one of the constant debates down the years as to how much a reserve is best... Too little and what's the point, but too much and it encourages those like BA and Wayne and others to steal it... (of course, a lot less likely under the dictator module)

I'm not a multi, but we would say that, I started playing a while ago but got bored and quit only started again recently when I received the email about anniversary gifts. Sadly EUK politics seems to be the same BS, multis and personal attacks, only a few of the names have changed.

“I don't think anyone from Nifty ever, explicitly or implicitly said that it was our own personal cash” - Addway as I'm sure your aware when a player activates a CO on the battle page it clearly states the name of the MU setting it so please stop trying to play dumb like rob the bruce and sambo.

Good gosh I'm glad FaP kicked me out the PMs after adding me accident, that sounds so tiring.

How are we meant to prove money came from Add's own pockets when we can't even prove that Add exists ffs Neil

"Adding me accident" yes I speak english

It appears one could dominate congress

We must bring back Democracy

We did vote it in

We have Democracy, as approved by the representatives of the people

And I can reply to the last question and it quite easy you are all in different parties to manipulate the system and that is what you are doing right now

We were in these parties before Nifty though.

what ESO

yeah m8

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