Grumpy Old Men: 5th Edition
Sweet Drinker
The world is filled with grumpy old men.
MU's are built upon them.
Large countries are run by them.
Alliances are commanded by grumpy old men.
Even the women are grumpy old men!
Seems being old is something to be ashamed of these days...
We've nationalist mindsets
Our experience is outdated
We're only capable of old ideas
Sometimes us senile old bastards just repeat ourselves!
I decided to write an article tonight because recently there has been some popular media regarding the abandonment of game mechanics for individual pursuits.
While I'm a deep mechanist myself, I accept everyone can ofc play erep in the manner they choose.
However there was a particular aspect mentioned which concerned me "the unfair/irreconcilable strength advantage old players have over new players".
What follows below is an updated version of an article on this subject I wrote when training upgrades were first introduced.
To truly appreciate the effect of strength training (purely in military terms, the economic impact of strength training requires an entire article of it's own),
Strength Advantage must be observed on both sides of it's coin:
Static Discrepancy (Static = unchanging)
and
Proportionate Discrepancy (this is the variable)
During my first term as CP a common question interviewers posed to me when I was CP was "how did you become CP at such a young age.
They hadn't notice I was years in the game, my strength was so low they just assumed!
When Training Ground Upgrades were first introduced. I had roughly 2,000strength. I interacted regularly with players with player 10,000 strength...
There were no separate divisions back then. We all fought the same walls. I was so hopelessly outgunned by thousands of players with +400% strength that they didn't even notice when I hit!
But with the release of Upgrades I moved from free-only training to full-training.
Almost all of those thousands of soldiers with 5times my strength also bought the Upgrades and continued full training.
That is an important fact of full training:
Those guys with thousands more strength will always retain that static gap.
However, while that irreconcilable Static Discrepancy remains (8k more strength in my case),
the proportionate gap has closed considerably.
I'm now 40k strength while they are 48k strength.
The proportionate discrepancy of 400% they had over me has been reduced to 20%!
Now they notice when I hit the wall!
🙂
This principle is prevalent throughout life:
If I have €9 and you have €0, I'm infinitely richer than you.
If we then both receive €1, I'm now only 90% richer than you.
If we both receive €1 for 100 days, then my wealth advantage becomes almost inconsequential to you!
When you're 5years old, a sibling who is 5years older is entirely different to you.
But when you're 25 and they 30, there is little difference between you.
etc, etc.
Always remember that Erepublik is not a game of instant thrills, it is a game of linear progression.
One day I won't be 40k strength competing with 50k strength players,
I'll be 140k Strength against their 150k strength. That gap won't be noticeable on the battlefield.
If you've only 1k strength, my 40k may seem insurmountable to you now, but if you've got 100k when I'm 140k you might be pushing me off my wall
😉
This is the most basic military reasoning for strength training.
There are a plethora of other arguments in favour of developing your might also, even economic advantages!
But those are topics for other nights.
I'm going to run a series of information articles like this, dusting off some long forgotten articles and updating them, and introducing some more contemporary ideas as well.
That's it for tonight,
Sw33t
Comments
I'd intended to write a CP update with a bit about strength training attached, but the strength training portion grew so large it seemed ridiculous to have it attached.
I'll do an update later
Another fantastic GOM article !
Thanks Sweet. Nice.
Fantastic article
InbeforeKurganshowshimselftobeatotalassyetagain.
o/
I love when IBhoy aka Yddub gets all paranoid about Kurgan....
Look you already signed an agreement where you basically admit you are afraid of me...so there is no need for you to show that fear on daily basis...
Thank you Sweet for this important information for young players.
You just forget to add it takes gold buying or in your case plundering state funds while you were finance minister.
By the way it has been over a year as you refuse to show any financial datas from your long term as finance minister.
Why is that? With that data you could make Kurgan to finally shut the fck up....
Prove me wrong Sweet and show finance reports......
You see ireland, Sweet as finance minister funded himself and his kunts for a long term with state funds.
In this case lack of any datas is a proof for it self...
Prove me wrong Sweet....please...
You're saying it wrong.
It's "plundARRR"
Like a pirate would.
"AARRRR, me plundAARRR"
but it should be you saying it that with pirate voice
You are CP ??
An article on our country , its regions and what u are doing for its citizens would do more good right now than the ego stroking and dry rubbin'
But then again, u were not arsed to write an article when u ran for pres so why should we expect any more when elected,
No different to our last few presidents
That's our Cas : )
Full training or fool training.
on a pure technical basis it is unfair the gap. Although like kurgan where did all of your strength come from?
on a monetary note i have recorded more clicks than you which leads me to the conclusion that i have a bigger industry atleast than you : P maybe not as lucrative but anyway bigger.
for me the question of strength and BH medals and CH medals has just become stupid. Its like this one game I used to play where I owned all of the items available about 40% through RL cash and got perma banned which meant my investment in the game was taken away and they effectively stole the money from me. Anyway I digress they just started introducing more and more stuff for RL cash. If I stayed it could easily have set me back about 500 USD to keep up.. One of the reasons I got kicked was that I warned about making players cash cows. Each week they started introducing more stuff. Although I do support this game financially there is also a point which I dont want to cross and that is spending thousands of RL cash to have so and so strength.I dont do full training yet but when I do it will be all the monthly stash and my grinding. you forget grinding..grind your way slowly in an online game that's how you save money whilst still enjoying yourself. the only way unfortunately to full train costing what 4 dollars or 830 IEP a day is by stealing a lot of money. Your number of clicks wouldnt have put you in the financial gravy train. unless you where part of a commune who sponsored your level 7 WEPS factories.
I basically have no industry. Never found the return rate acceptable.
I'm from the days of cross currency trading. that's where my wealth was established
still the requirement in gold would be massive? that where the kurgan dilemma arises and certainly as economic guru you must keep book so your failure to open the books , would lead you to what conclusion if you were him. in fact OJ is full training. but still it leaves a question.
industry is not bad all your jobs is now auto selected for you so in 1 clicks you can in my case work 81 companies
upgrading all training grounds is 375g when on offer.
I earned 320g from BH medals in my last 2 months of Div3 alone.
However new implimentations make BH's more costly these days.
What about me?
You're good enough at erep to maintain full Q4 training OJ.
This is suspicious to unskilled players
Have you guys still not copped that RTK is Kurgan?
Lol
granny joker. im not kurgan. for one thing i life in a different continent and country than him. South Africa.. whereas he is probably in England? there is another character that acts like kurgan but he denies being kurgan some professor or something. very good with science and debating of a very high intellect. im not a scientist and not interested in it bar here and there somethijng that peeks my interest.
also he is a complete atheist . kurgan is that massive character in some kind of movie. also was in that series about the circus very surrealistic in the depression period. i did a lot of searching because i kinda disliked the other guy.
"very good with science and debating of a very high intellect"... can't be Kurgan though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_(Highlander)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clancy_Brown
"probably in England", is it?
Hmmmm...
is it? 😛
Like I said the person was asked are you the victor kurgan of erep and he denied it. Enough said. Why all the interest in us Grainne. Does Kurgan make you all hot and bothered? And no we are not the same! besides isnt north Ireland part of england?
what is weird is that your both of cyprus mmm...fancy yourselves being a multi perhaps. daghda the fruit fly who found too low numbers of his species here created a compressed alter ego to confront his enemies.mmmm maybe a case of dr coyote ugly and misses fruit fly
Lol, well if I had a beard and could speak perfect German, maybe...
Ticket schreiben.... Abtreten !
dont get the abtreten . you can submit a ticket we are not a multi you are just wasting your time usually they would look at stuff surrounding the players. almost zero deposits to him 0 from him, different ip adresses, different server countries, different login times,different approach to the game. e-mail adresses
I didn't say anything about the multying here. I only pointed out, that the guy you were talking about can't be Kurgan. You were talking about Grainne and me.
abtreten = gtfo
Only the polite way .
I won't write anything because i personally don't give a toss if you're Agent Kurgans multi or not. xdxd
wtf do u mean. u think trolling people for years, and coming up with the character he did takes zero thought. i used to play this arrogant know it all. that got so good that they perma banned me for rules that didnt exist. for example i would say if it wasnt for me the noob equilibrium would destroy the world. for i know everything about the game and the rest of you noobs barely remember to pull down your britches in the morning..if i left the vacuum of knowledge that departed would mean the end of the world. here i play a different character. in another game im playing a complete noob although i played that game for 5 years. i had a conversation with some woman for an half hour letting her explain everything about a certain aspect of the game i know much more about. but NO i am not kurgan and he not me.. stop with that nonsense before they ban him for a few days for crap.
im silver member and handled by the vip moderators so wont get banned.
" we are not a multi " lol
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Fantastic article
http://eireland-university.freeforums.net/
can we be grumpy young folks, also?
good points on the training issue, now just to find a way to compete with those who use real world cash to boost themselves 🙂
Yes, GOM is a state of mind : )