[MZZ] From Slovenia to Macedonia
Day 1,785, 04:32
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by SmoothZiga
First I would like to to explain why I am writing this in my own newspaper and not in the newspaper of Slovenian MoFa organisation. Fact is that my newspaper have more than 1000 sub's and also lot of foreigner readers while our MoFa article have very little subs and is not very know to foreigner readers.
I have no intention to abuse this article to boost my sub's.
The diplomatic relationships in the eWorld are very confused and making of alliance CTRL that is made of countries from exONE and exTEDEN made even more confusion and also some tensions betwean old friends.
In this article I would like to focuse on Macedonia and Slovenian relationship. There have been lot of tensions betwean our countries and we witness some hostile shouts and even some fightings in eachother RW's. And latest MPP law where Slovenian congress has not decided if they will accept or refuse our MPP shows that things are not so innicent and it shows that Slovenian population have lost some trust in Macedonia.
Sadly relationship betwean Slo and Mkd got bad when Macedonia first came to Italy and some Mkd players in their goverment made plans to RW our Swiss regions so they could take it by themselfs but this plan was never carried our and Slovenia goverment forgave Macedonia because we knew this was not supported by whole Macedonian population and our relationship got bether and we stayed close friends for many months/years.
But when Croatia occupyed Austria and Swiss regions Slovenia lost its long kept resources in Swiss. After few months Slovenia, Macedonia and Poland decided its time to kick Croatia out of those two regions and we did it with success. At that time Macedonia told Slovenia that they will not keep Swiss regions and they will return them but this was not the case and lot of Slovenians got angry at them (tbh, I dont know the full story since I was not in goverment at that time and our CP didnt share lot of information with population). Since then Slovenian and Macedonian relationship only went downhill.
Here I must say that Slovenia is not that innocent also. We got spoiled while holding our Swiss and Italian bonuses and we couldnt accept the fact we lost them and ofcourse started looking for someone to blame and in this case it was Macedonia.
I in behalf of Slovenian goverment and population of Slovenia would like to tell Macedonians that we didnt loose the hope in our relationship. We are always prepared to fix things and to forget all old hatred and mistakes made by all of us. I call on both Slovenian and Macedonian citizens to distance themselfs from provocative actions.
I already had agreed with Macedonian goverment that we will have a meeting tomorrow evening and will start the talks how we can fix this situation and agree on the future that could benefit us both and we could try to live in peace and with good relationship.
I hope in future we will all be able to scream and spam in articles the following words…
Hail Macedonia
Hail Slovenia
Kind Regards
Slovenian minister of foreign Affairs
SmoothZiga
I have no intention to abuse this article to boost my sub's.
The diplomatic relationships in the eWorld are very confused and making of alliance CTRL that is made of countries from exONE and exTEDEN made even more confusion and also some tensions betwean old friends.
In this article I would like to focuse on Macedonia and Slovenian relationship. There have been lot of tensions betwean our countries and we witness some hostile shouts and even some fightings in eachother RW's. And latest MPP law where Slovenian congress has not decided if they will accept or refuse our MPP shows that things are not so innicent and it shows that Slovenian population have lost some trust in Macedonia.
Sadly relationship betwean Slo and Mkd got bad when Macedonia first came to Italy and some Mkd players in their goverment made plans to RW our Swiss regions so they could take it by themselfs but this plan was never carried our and Slovenia goverment forgave Macedonia because we knew this was not supported by whole Macedonian population and our relationship got bether and we stayed close friends for many months/years.
But when Croatia occupyed Austria and Swiss regions Slovenia lost its long kept resources in Swiss. After few months Slovenia, Macedonia and Poland decided its time to kick Croatia out of those two regions and we did it with success. At that time Macedonia told Slovenia that they will not keep Swiss regions and they will return them but this was not the case and lot of Slovenians got angry at them (tbh, I dont know the full story since I was not in goverment at that time and our CP didnt share lot of information with population). Since then Slovenian and Macedonian relationship only went downhill.
Here I must say that Slovenia is not that innocent also. We got spoiled while holding our Swiss and Italian bonuses and we couldnt accept the fact we lost them and ofcourse started looking for someone to blame and in this case it was Macedonia.
I in behalf of Slovenian goverment and population of Slovenia would like to tell Macedonians that we didnt loose the hope in our relationship. We are always prepared to fix things and to forget all old hatred and mistakes made by all of us. I call on both Slovenian and Macedonian citizens to distance themselfs from provocative actions.
I already had agreed with Macedonian goverment that we will have a meeting tomorrow evening and will start the talks how we can fix this situation and agree on the future that could benefit us both and we could try to live in peace and with good relationship.
I hope in future we will all be able to scream and spam in articles the following words…
Hail Macedonia
Hail Slovenia
Kind Regards
Slovenian minister of foreign Affairs
SmoothZiga
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Samo da zavrsime so Amerite, izgleda ke go jadete od nas
O/
Samo da zavrsime so Amerite, izgleda ke go jadete od nas +1111
o7
Hail Slovenia
Hail Macedonia
Personally i will not even read this artcle, because you are not important. If you decide to be Polish puppy go on ..
Good to unite & beat EDEN
Hope that the meeting tomorrow will turn out good for both sides and our friendship will continue.
Hail Slovenia
Hail Macedonia
@United Macedonia
If you didn't even read this article than why commenting !???
Hypocrite. He bashes me in the Slovenian media for supporting Macedonia, now you want to improve relations with them yourself? Ha.
there is no country called macedonia there is only FYROM 😉
@Ice
Please dont start!!!
I never said I dont wanna improve relationship with macedonia. I have difrent view in this situation. To prevet further provocations and clashes will stop communicating with you or comment your articles/shouts.
Težko je verjeti, da se še najdejo osebe, ki tebe spustijo na mesto zunanjega. Ta članek je en kup populizma, s katerim ne boš prepričal nikogar.
Makedonci so svoj pravi obraz pokazali že velikokrat, obnašajo se kot mali otrok, ki hoče več sladkarij, čeprav mu ne pripadejo in potem ko dobijo po prstih jokajo.
Zakaj bi Slovenija gradila odnose s tako državo, nesmisel!
Ne podpisujte MPP, itak lahko na prste ene roke našteješ Slovence, ki so se pripravljeni boriti za Makedonijo.
Another country on the TIC-TAC list
o7
Hail Slovenia
Hail Macedonia
o7
Hail Slovenia
Hail Macedonia
@Fght4 Palec tukaj in ne dvomim, da se bodo javili tudi kazalec, sredinec, prstanec in mezinec... Obnašanje malega otroka najbolje demonstriraš sam, tvoje izjave se mi v tem trenutku ter na tem mestu ne zdijo umestne.
Loland was here?!
Boljši članek kot od Ice Kille,bolj objektiven sigurno 😛
Sam Smooth,tole ne drži: (tbh, I dont know the full story since I was not in goverment at that time and our CP didnt share lot of information with population)
Si bil v moji vladi kot MoFA, sem vlado obveščal in članek je tudi prišel ven...
@Pepowsky
Boš moral napisati kaj točno je tu otročjega!
Da se mi zdi narobe, da nam diplomacijo vodi oseba, ki je že nekajkrat prekršila sklenjen dogovor, kot je Ice napisal dvoličnost.
Ali je morda problem v tem, da kritiziram Makedonce, čeprav si to lahko privoščim, glede na to, da sem se z njimi boril ramo ob rami, ko si bil ti še dvokliker. Bilo so časi, ko sem še verjel, da bodo Makedonci nekoč končno začeli razmišljati trezno, žal so sami vedno znova dokazali ravno nasprotno.
@Matrix
Mel sem v mislih cen1. Takrat je bila vojna med Mkd in Hrvaško v Švici.
Fact is that my newspaper have more than 1000 sub's ****HAS namest HAVE!! 🙂 super članek, vote!
With rejecting the MPP law you can not improve our relationship, only things will be worst.
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Vote smooth, točno to sem mislil, ko sem rekel, da kaj napiši. Vsaj nekaj kar oriše dejansko stanje, ki sem ga zaslutil "po hodnikih in ovinkih". Tega dejansko manjka vsem v erepu še posebej novejšim igralcem.
Smooth,jp,takrat je bilo pa res bogo obveščanje ljudstva in takrat se je tudi začelo to :/
Tnx for my first FP. But where you see vulgarity when i write censured? NVM i will repeat that without ,,vilgarity''
Ohhh. I know what you want. You want the swich region. OK you can get Sviceria Italiana and get one resources +. But you need to pay them to make NE on you and lost all MPP but you cant do that you don't want to pay them. And then what you want from swich regions? You will maybe success when Macedonia will leave that regions but later Serbia will come what you will do then.
Mature approach I see. Good luck with your meeting 🙂 o7
will write in english 🙂
@slovenians
think really really hard on what we did some time ago. we wanted bonuses and we were willing to sacrifice an ally (ancient history). but lets look at more recent history. eMKD offered eCH a deal. which eCH accepted, at the same time we offered them a deal, which they rejected. IMHO that means, that eCH didnt want us in their regions.
As for eITA regions, well as it seems there is still an agreement valid there, which clearly stipulates...
@biiis
There is no agreement for Italy anymore...
which regions we get and at what price we get them. as far as i know, the regions that eSLO holds ATM are the ones, that the agreement is made for.
so in order to get possible more eITA regions, we would either have to break the existing treaty or extend it.
so to summarise. eMKD didnt steal anything from us. they simply made better deals than we offered.(period)
@eMacedonians
people, personally i dont like you, really i dont. i havent dealt with many of you, but....
i honestly must say, that out of the perhaps 10 players 7 wanted to cheat me or demanded unreasonable ammount of currency/WPNS for their damage.
with that said, i will say this. i have always seen eMKD fighters fighting for eSLO and the other way around. i have also seen a lot of fighting against eachother (mostly BH hunters like me). there are always exceptions. but in the end, i believe that in the past, we all fought for eachother, a lot.....
and if we decide to throw that away, then im a little bit sad.
but whatever happens, lets all understand the truth here. because there are always 2 sides to the coin. and neither eMKD or eSLO have the solo right for justification of their actions here.
im out of politics, i dont play this game any longer, i simply maintain my account. but it does sadden me, when i see a bunch of mistruths written and shouted.
know your history and then make a decision.
@SmoothZiga
at the time of the supposed betrayal by eMKD, there was an agreement between eITA and eSLO. so my statement is still valid.
@biis
Makedonija ni ponudila Švicarjem pogodbe ampak jim je dala ultimat če ga ne sprejmejo bodo še ob zadnjo regijo in zato se tudi ni mogla več o čemerkoli pogajati z nami ker je pač mi nismo bili sposobni zaščititi pred makedonci. In nas niti vprašali niso ampak so enostavno postavili ultimat švici ter hkrati na hitro pazabili da so dva dni nazaj obljubljali da se bodo umaknili iz švice ko se preženejo hrvati iz avstije.
Say no to MPP with Macedonia 😉
@sandi111
hmm, da pravilno razumem. A je ponudil nekaj Bju pod nekimi določenimi pogoji. B je to sprejel pod temi določenimi pogoji. predstavnika A in B sta to javno oznanila.
to je moja definicija pogodbe. ko se obe strani strinjata z predlaganimi pogoji.
eCH je imela izbiro, izbrala je dogovor/pogodbo.
bi pa rad opozoril na nekaj drugega. tudi eSLO je ponudila švici "pogodbo", ki je tudi bila pogojena s še nekimi dodatnimi pogoji.
ejanjordy ,
For me and for a lot another peoples - Macedonija is only Macedonija and not FYROM....
best regrds
pa še tole dodatno
pogodba eCH z:
eMKD - 2 povezani regiji + 1 regija
eSLO - 1 + 1 regija + xx golda
načeloma, izgleda eMKD ponudba boljša od naše, tko da...
Dear Macedonians, let's face you with the truth.
MatrixPegaz stated the following: "I asked you when did the idea about Macedonia joining the Balkan trio arise? For starters, it was said only Serbia, Slovenia and Hungary, and that's it! We never said Macedonia is to join us!"
He actually shouted this article believing justice will be done, yet behind your back keeps stating how bad you are. What a double faced person he is.
SmoothZiga in a private message to me - part of the text:
"I have been talking for two days to Macedonians to solve our problems, but I will regardless of that put our, Slovenian needs and wishes in front of them."
p0luks in a comment under my article: "Beside that you aren't even in a government, you have no functions - except for writing in your newspaper and then you are said to be in contact with Croats and Macedonians? Tell me why?"
He is indicating here I have no right to be in touch with any of the Macedonians that have at least some power, as I'm not a credible person for that. For supporting I have been bashed by the same people stating how they want to improve relations with you. Ironical.
@fight4 O SmoothZigi se da marsikaj reči, vendar je to prostor notranje politike in take zadeve preprosto ne sodijo sem. Pusti mu, da opravi svoje delo.
Kritike Makedonije lahko postaviš ob bok kritikam vseh ostalih edržav, pri vseh se bo našlo kaj in Makedonci zagotovo ne izstopajo v slabem. Moje skromno mišljenje je, da je eSlovenija eden večjih vrtcev v tej igri.
Kar se mene tiče - bil sem ter sem še vedno 'ponosni' dvokliker. Oba sva tolkla zanje, jaz še vedno brez težav.
Yes, very mature "leaking logs" ... next time write what I realy wrote.
And whats wrong with what I said? I have talked to BlackMK and to ackonel. And I said I wanna make our relationship bether but I will ofc always defend slovenian interests.
p0luks: "Howly stop with the bullshit! - Slovenias best allies are serbia and hungary and both of them dont like MKD anymore, and our opinion is the same.
Now the real question is what will MKD do about it not what we will do!
as i see it SRB, HUN and SLO are talking about some kind of alliance and MKD want to be part of it, but with past and recent actions they are pushing their allies away.
and yes howly you are only slovenian suporting MKD infront of other alies"
Under the shout.
..saj ni moja stvar, ampak predlog je pa vseeno, pa čeprav bo vodstvo še naprej spalo..
rajši se čimprej zmenite s Poljsko, da bo Slovenjia zasedla TOSCANO inLIGURIJO, ter Švicarske kravice, ker jih potrebuje.. In potrebujemo akcijo!!!!!!.
Poljaki pa naj prepričajo Američane, da nas pustijo pri miru, še bolje, naj Poljska sodeluje z nami pri prevzemu teh regij....
AMPAK, članka ne boste prebrali in o njemu nič kaj razpravljali, ker je najbolj pomembno da spite svoje sladke sanje naprej.
I support the negotiations and action to resolve the problems.
I believe that Macedonia and Slovenia will win many battles together in the future.
There is not a problem that can't be resolved
Hail Slovenia
Hail Macedonia
Ice,you are on drugs? I didnt shouted article (how could you see,we arent friends),said (in comment) that Smooth wrote better article,then you,it has more objective views,yours are more SciFi articles.
Ice, must say,you are becoming more i***t,day after day...
SmoothZiga in a comment under a shout: "If Slovenia goes to the same alliance as Macedonia I will pack my bags and head to Poland, and I probably won't be the only one. Or at least I will try Slovenia to exit the alliance."
SmoothZiga: "Howly, I think you aren't aware how many known Slovenians do not support the alliance with Macedonia."
Leaking logs from a private convo, very nice Ice Killa....Smooth actually wrote nice and honest article, you are raging helplessly in comments. I can understand that you wanted to be part of Slovgov, but sometimes you have to know how to lose. Are you even the original Howly?
I said I wont answer to your provocations anymore but hell...
Yes I tend to write some things in moment of rage, people know that. And even if I said that this was my personal belives. But when it comes to working in behalf of a country I forget about those things and do what is the best for our country what I cant say for you. For what I did in past I got support from others (mostly generals in our IGM) and didnt write provocating articles like you do.