Simply, from a simple eTurk, to the simple people of Eden countries...
Walpole
4 months ago, when the last episode of ONE’s long list of betrayals and abuses against eTurkey played, and eTurkey’s relations with ONE irrecoverably severed, eTurkey’s government at the time brought up the possibility of Turkey-Eden approach for debate. I was in one of those debates. Different opinions were phrased by many people. Some people, including myself, objected the notion with various reasons. Nevertheless, we were in minority; eTurkey became a trial member in Eden.
Interestingly, though most of eTurkish population came to this game in order to fight against eGreece, nobody in that meeting, not a single person, said "We came here to fight Greece, so we don't want to be in their alliance". And the chronology of the events in past 4 months forged the roots of a long term, unshakable friendship between these two eCountries.
Stories with similar tuning can be multiplied if we review the relationship between eTurkey and every other Eden country except one. And those countries, with their goodwill, open mindness, and selfless cooperation, forged not only the friendship among themselves but also an Eden-dominated world.
During this process, eBulgaria remained an exception... They insisted on having eTurkey as their perpetual enemy and push aside even the thought of probability of friendly relations between two countries. To justify their behavior, they again and again underlined two main reasons:
1- Bulgaria needs an enemy (as if Fyrom or Serbia are not enemies in their western front)
2- Most eBulgarians play this game to fight Turks; if we become allies with Turks, many of our players would leave the game (a prediction totally in disagreement with eTurkey-eGreece case)
If it stopped there, most people in other Eden countires would say "Ok, they are not as logical and open minded as Greeks or Turks or the citizens of other Eden countries, so what" and shut up.
But no. That was not enough. Bulgarians wanted to eat their cake, and have it too. Thus we witnessed a cascade of incoherent Bulgarian policies and demands from both eTurkey and other Eden countries, which eventually brought whole alliance in total dysfunction. They wanted to have eTurkey as their perpetual enemy, fought eTurkey if circumstances are suitable, blamed eTurkey for their owns mischievous actions, pushed for eTurkey's expulsion from Eden , preached about the brotherhood’s value over “damage”, blackmailed Eden countries to obey Bulgarian will in this matter, asked regions from eTurkey in the good spirit of being in the same alliance.
And they did all of these at the same time, as if there was nothing wrong doing it so.
Friends,
You know that source of the problem here is not eTurkey, or Eden overall. The problem here is the collective psyche of eBulgaria in this matter, which cannot be identified more optimistically than "mentally clinical."/
In healthcare, remedy of a problem is to heal the source of the problem. If healing is no longer possible, then the removal of the source is the last thing to do. Eden's voting tonight will show whether Eden countries have a proper diagnosis of the illness which has been eating our alliance inside out.
If Eden countries fail delivering a moral decision tonight, in other words, reward eBulgaria for all her violations against Eden and punish eTurkey for doing nothing wrong, I am afraid that decision would mean to be Eden's own seal under the document proclaiming its self destruction.
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all u needed to do was release 2 useless regions. yet, you held them for last 2+ months, for nothing.
if you're looking for someone to blame, blame your shortsighted leaders.
btw, cool story calling ppl you dont agree with crazy.
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First MPP then cooperation
We all know the issue is not 2 regions.
We all know you dont have balls to attack
You just blackmailing Eden
fourunç
sad but true
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We attacked our old allies just because they disrespected us. I dunno what makes Bulgarians think that we will hesitate to attack them
Strip all the diplomatic blabla from the Bulgarian position, and what remains?
In the spirit of Brotherhood, we want those two regions.
In return, you will never be part of this brotherhood.
Excuse me? Negotiations mean "Quid pro Quo"
Bulgaria wants the quid, but is not willing to give the quo, so what sort of negotiation is this?
As for the constantly repeated "give us your two useless regions" (again repeated in above commet) ... wake up guys: give regions to a clearly hostile nation? Turkey has made it clear, in every discussion, that those regions would be given away, *provided* Bulgaria showed any sort of good will.
Bulgarian Reaction?
MPP : NO WAY
EDEN Membership : Impossible.
So an impasse; personally, I can see no outcome at all.
ShadowMJ, you are reflecting a typical mind set of a Bulgarian. Focusing on a small point of a picture instead of the overall frame and missing all the different angles and details.
This charade of yours needs to end tonight and it will.
ShadowMJ all u needed to do was accept us as full member .))
long and i didnt read
Keep insultin us fight aganist us (including your president) than ask for two regions of eTR.
LOL
ALONE FOREVER !
Gur Gur Gur no EDEN for you Gur Gur Gur
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güzel yazı olmuş
eline sağlık.
daha sık yazsn bide işler bu noktaya gelmeden.
I'm kind tired of this strategy of ineptitude that gets dressed in the everlasting victim. So I'll just quote form a few of the people that have wronged Turkey to be fair to you:
Serbia, Macedonia, Greece back when it was fashionable (not anymore)
, Romania (currently not fashionable as well), Spain, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Chile, Ireland, India, China, ROC...... the list can go on forever.
This has been the style of game for the last 18 months that Turkey has assumed, propaganda and more propaganda.
It is righteous for Turkey to attack an ally because they did not yield to their demands for regions in Arabia (Iran and then Macedonia) but it is blasphemous when the same is done by others.
There is no "racism" or irrationality here, on the contrary it is very rational. Nobody likes a turncoat which will justify his own actions trough moral escapades which he never upholds. I was one of the players who wanted peace between Turkey and Bulgaria so that I do not have to watch the BS flying in the air between the beeps on both sides, however it is impossible as long as the people shaping Turkey foreign policy are in power.
I really do not understand, as a Bulgarian this charade we are making. There is no reason for us to use such aggressive, hostile behavior against Turkey, which did nothing other than opt to be in the alliance, by switching sides, something that Bulgaria did a year ago.
aferin len muhtar iyi yazmisinn
Good article,it clearly express vast majority of turkish players' opinion
http://youtu.be/0i8VM_EooCs
bulgurs are gurguring 😃
reported as junk mail.. 😃
Good article,it clearly express vast majority of turkish players' opinion
Few months ago eTurkey was one of my favorite countries. Damn, now it seems to me that Turkey still begging to be a member of an alliance where some of the countries hate and humiliate them. It is really much more better than ONE? Or it's just about you want to be on the winner-eden side?
Hungary is still your brother.
Stop crying about racism, you funny orientals. It's a game, and we don't wont to play with "team eTurkey", because you are not trustworthy. How many alliances you've been in just 1 year? Four? You could have mpp's with the other EDEN countries and your bonuses - the only thing that is asked from you is not to block our way in Iran. You wont to be our ally, you have those regions because of EDEN, but you are blocking one EDEN country - how is that logical or acceptable? This issue could have been long solved, but you choose to blackmail us. Are you happy with the results?
read it..you Philipotel and other bulgarian players..
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdZnfTTZYLX48Qh2CQ7Qj-hagYnGo4mAXSReuwZ1zR0/edit?pli=1
you have my suport!
Philipotel
In this politically instable climate, you cannot judge the future by the past. One year ago Bulgaria wanted to join EDEN. Why can't Turkey now?
EDEN HQ choose influence over their old brothers Bulgaria. And dont say the bs how greeks love you now and respect you. Its all about your daily influence,nothing more. You are not trustworthy at all,we felt that on our skin,twice.
P.S.
:forever alone
Hashspy - they wonted to join PANAM, when they didn't got what they wont it Phoenix, after that they wonted to join ONE, because the didn't got what they wont in PANAM, and now they wont to join EDEN, because the didn't got what they wont it ONE. There is not a polite term for such a behaviour, and they don't deserve respect or "friendship" - that's for sure.
Ok, forget all things but our main argument is the referendum. It was 38% FOR you joining EDEN.
I will tell you this one time only - If you were ready to go through GEA like the others, it would be more than 38% in your favour. May be not 100, may be not 50, may be just 38,1% but when we were discussing the matter, the minority said "we want to fight turks" and the majority said "noone asked us, wtf? why 1 month trial? wtf is this?" and that's why most of the 62% voted NO to you.
But you wanted quick joining and this played a big role.
@philipotel what you just said is a complete bs. after panam we tried to join one because usa signed mpp with greece, whom was our archenemy back then. then we quit one because spain has hit against us continuosly and macedonia and iran went behind our back. you do everything you can to manipulate every ecountry and now you try to twist the facts just when i thought "bulgaria can't act any lower".
BTW Bulgarians already were allied with Turks, the incis
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Your problem is that you never had honest intentions towards Bulgaria. You never came face to face with Bulgaria to clear up the problems, instead you thought you could simply sneak in and force Bulgaria to accept you. Bulgaria doesn't want to accept you mostly because of in-game reasons. Bulgaria doesn't care and doesn't feel satisfied at all about the victories over ONE as long as our biggest in-game enemy i.e you are free to roam around and to do shit to us from inside our own union. I can assure you that people like your cp whoraq have turned many Bulgarians to be against you, he is the biggest bulgarian-hater around. Now Bulgaria simply won't rest until it sees you deleted. Be it now or in 6 months or in a year, it doesn't matter.
Philipotel
Hardly any of the people that played then play now. This is a dynamic game, people join it and leave it all the time.
@wildrunner we had honest intentions when we fought against hungary even though we didn't have mpp. we didn't try to force anything on you. we waited when you didn't want mpp with us and fought for eden interests within our power. you trolled, humiliated and disregarded us in all possible ways. you never ever gave us a chance. you never tried to see us as allies. you have acted completely narrow-minded and now this is about to end eden.
aha adam hem ingilizce hem de gerçekleri söylemeyi biliyormuş işin garibi ikisi aynı anda da yapabiliyormuş 🙂 valla hayretler içersindeyim ama yiğidi öldür hakkını yeme voted
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None of this had to happen. The war is inevitable now but if only the Bulgarians who didn't have a negative approach based on RL history and seeked to find more resources etc. for their in-game country; realized that Eden is and has to consist of more members than ONE. Because, ONE is the alliance of the strong in power but few in number; in other words it was inevitable that some of us have less colonies because of the strategic locations of our countries.
Don't say the bs how greeks love you now and respect you. Its all about your daily influence,nothing more. You are not trustworthy at all,we felt that on our skin,twice.
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TURKEY FOREVER ALONE
TURKEY FOREVER ALONE
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u mad?
Don't worry , Turks , you still have more people that will fight for you against BG from Eden.
What BG did was immoral and selfish.
Ye BGs I will hit anytime for TK rather then BG.
And I'm not the only one thinking that.
i want to see turkey separated by ONE and EDEN.
TURKEY FOREVER ALONE