Československo 2/Czechoslovakia Meeting 2
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by Red Duck
Je na CRU fóru, tak tohle je zveřejnění dosavadních jednání o konkrétnější podobě širší veřejnosti která není zaregistrovaná. Ještě můžou být změny a upřesnění, jednání bylo zkomplikováno výpadkem Skypu. Na otázky, návrhy či připomínky použijte komentáře, pokusím se na všechny odpovědět.
Občanství
Občanství budou dávána podle seznamů a postupně, přednost budou mít podnikatelé aby mohli své firmy rovnou přepojit.
O tom kdo občanství dostane bude rozhodovat česko-slovenská komise.
Finance
Převod CZK SKK
Bude to fungovat tak že všichni občané České republiky budou za účelem výměny měny vyzvání ke kontaktování Slovenské národní bance.
Výměna bude v poměru 1SKK=3CZK
O tom kdo by případně výměnu nedostal a CZK by mu byly vráceny aby je udal na trhu sám by rozhodovali Češi.
Po výměně ČNB odkoupí CZK goldy v poměru 1gold=100CZK
Pokud zásoba ČNB nestačí, CZK zatím zůstanou ve Slovenské bance.
Ve federaci:
Národní bankou se stane Slovenská banka, ČNB na výdejích nezávislá a jejím hlavním posláním bude získávat CZK.
Každý měsíc pošle Slovenská Banka ČNB 90 goldů, z toho 10 goldů může být v CZK.
Vznik ČR
Pokud se Češi rozhodnout legitimně vytvořit ČR, Slovenská strana bude povinna zaplatit mpp, resistance wars, pomůže při navázání diplomatických styků, atd.
Politika:
Prezidentem bude Čech nebo Slovák (cizinci se budou počítat podle původního klíče kdo žil kde) a bude dávána přednost pro to aby se v čele státu střídali.
Viceprezidentem bude vždycky ten opačného národa než je prezident.
Ministerstva a funkce by byly ideálně v poměru 50:50.
Čechům budou vyhrazeny dvě strany, je na nich jestli budou mít čistě etnické nebo dojde k asimilaci.
Žádný region ČR se nesmí pronajmout pokud by Češi nesouhlasili.
From CRU forum, this is publish of present negotiations to wider public. There should be changes or specifications, negotiations were complicated by Skype breakdown. On questions, proposals or suggestions use comment, I will try answer.
Citizenship
Citizenship will be given according list gradually, priority will be cmmpany owners to easily transfer
About getting citizenship will be deciding Czech-Slovak comission
Finances:
Exchange of CZK-SKK
All citizens will be asked to contact slovak national bank
Exchange will be in exchange rate 1SKK=3CZK
About cases where will be CZK given back to owner will decide Czechs
After exchange ČNB will buy obtained CZK in exchange rate 1gold=100CZK
If accounts of ČNB will be not enough, CZKs will remain in Slovak National Bank
In Federation:
National bank will be Slovak bank ČNB will be independent on expenses and its main duty will be getting CZK.
Every month Slovak National Bank will send to ČNB 90 golds, from it shall be 10 golds in CZK.
Re-creation of the Czech Republic
If will Czechs decide create Czech Republic by legitimate way, Slovak side is obliged to pay mpp, resistance wars, will help with diplomacy etc.
Politics:
President will be either Czech or Slovak (foreigners will be considered as Czechs or Slovaks according current situation) and its priority that they will be changing.
Vicepresident will be allways of opossiten ationality than is president.
Ministries and functionswill be idealy in ration 50:50
For Czechs will be 2 parties, its up to them if they will want it national or will be assimilated.
Czech core regions shall be loaned only with agree of Czechs.
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Tá komisia je už známa?
Ještě ne.
interesting
Cool
Only one question:
what if Czechs decide to split?
Without congress, anyone could take CZ citizenship back, and we would have same situation as we had in past - thousands of foreigners with CZ citizenship. That way, there is no going back, actually.
Only possible way to save Czech independence against that rule is to have CZ back on map from 23rd to 26th every month, and organized group of czech congress members - 9 of them.
What is quite expensive 😒
Red_Baxter: AFAIK I think all this is just planning ahead. It will or it will not be executed based on the elections, public opinion and political situation. But knowing the conditions before you decide makes it better, right? We have tried federation by force before and it failed just because of low PR and military support.
@Red_Baxter: Very good question!
There is already plan how to make it from previous fail. Because Skype is not functional and friend has it at home, I havent seen it so far.
I would like to ensure that if will be Czech Republic created by will of Czechs, it will be much stronger and fully functional state - I am thinking about signation of 300 Czech speaking people under independence, but some colleagues are much more sceptical.
Conditions of creation of Czech Republic will be completely different from previous tries. In previous case it was fight between multi-supported alliances after occupation againist will of government, we want ensure that in this case would both alliances fully recognize and even help Czechs to maintain power in their state - this is why I want ensure diplomatical help in first steps for independence.
Good luck
Ono ma CRU forum? To je dobre take vedet.
Mozna ze ctvrt roku je dostatecne dlouha doba na objevovani novinek ):
Lepší pozdě než nikdy (:
http://czechrightunion.userboard.net/index.htm?sid=0392f4ecf48967367d6c4fd1ef243fc6
Well,this is a good contract!I now agree with this,but the two nationalities must be equal.
Hmp NoBudeem Kukat že čo KUK .,
I still do not support this...This is nationalism and evil... no never will i trade my life to become a nationalist of slovika.. this is treason on the life of Czech.
Why should i fight for Czech freedom and then the government of Czech turns around and hands the government to another nation.. 3Czech=1SKK thats wrong if we are creating a Union the Money should equal Why should i trade my money to some bank that i have not power to.. Thats like selling my self to become a slave.
This is wrong!!!!!!!!
Sir Robert Dudley: federation is nationalism???
It is a TO from Slovak side!!!
FREE CZECH REPUBLIC! SAY NO TO FACISM!
!?!?!?!?
That's nice to see that ex-rightist union is cracking down. That's my part of pleasure.
As I understood, Czech country will join Slovakia by wars and the "federation" will be done under Slovak flag. But, I wonder how will you handle "preventing resistance wars" thing? I think if some oppositor starts it, leftists of e-world would support Czech nationalists if it gains a social character. Independence is a great motive for leftists.
Hmp i hope if someone do resistance war he will write first lôl .,,. AND federation is NOt 100%
No Federation is not always Nationalism. But what i read so far of this idea this seems like a nationalist idea or nationalist rising waiting to happen. I think if we create a federation of states each state should keep it's current power but rework and come up which join laws and rules create a shared wealth which creates equal power CZK sould be equal to SKK when creating the federation by blancing the economys so that the people don't have to lose money or power/wealth or give up their wealth to fight to switch jobs so they can just fight for a better one.
What i am say is if we make one system more powerful/benifical then the other system then we have a crash of one of the system people whould look for better jobs careers switch sides..exploit other people.ect..ect. in saying the CZk would crash and massive explosion in Slovkia people would lose jobs and some jobs will fall then the unemploy will increass and jobs would be hard to fine. as the demand increass too fast and supply falls rapidly.
You know what i may just go ahead and just write a whole report on this in my newspaper after the holidays..
but basicly thats what i am trying to say..
I dont understand you at all, I will wait on article.
Sir Robert Dudley: You did not understand me, I was wondering that you think that federation is about nationalism. From my point of view federation cannot live on nationalism.