- On The Outside Looking In :: A Look Into The Social Paradigm of Erepublik -
Justinious McWalburgson III
I've played, or umm, been a member of erepublik, for longer than 99.9% of the people who will read this article, but that does not mean I know more than anyone. My guess is that every single person who votes, comments, or even reads this article will know more about what is going on in The New World then I currently do. This aspect has really got me thinking about new comers to the game and the daunting and confusing task infront of them.
In my personal situation, game mechanics or locating features is no problem at all. I feel I could (and might actually) write a duplicate version of erepublik in my spare time. The real issue the social aspect of erepublik. The social layer is where this game is won and lost at every level of competition. Elections and Wars are dependent on quality communication between vasts amount of people, but even beyond those familiar aspects, this social layer is the gem of erepublik that keeps us all here. Despite what everyone says, if you are an active member of this game, it is because you have found friends (or enemies) that you can play with or against. It is what brings the game to life and it is what drives our passions. So why am I saying any of this? To explain a few points. To talk about how hard it is to actually break into that social layer. To discuss the problems we have with engagements, and possible ways of fixing it.
- The Social Scene is a Walled Garden -
For as long as I can remember, the largest problem we have had with erepublik has been the 2-clickers. The lack of a large and engaged base population has always been a hot topic for us, and for the admins as well. Overtime this engagement has shifted in both directs, but my theory is that its been fairly steady, even as our population as a whole has risen and fallen back some.
There was a time when we would (with the help of Pearl and his lovely scripts) track the active population of every country and compare that to the total population, it was always some dismal number below 30% in most cases. Then if you considered the forum population as a percentage of the total population, you could half that activity amount. Those who frequent the forums (or irc) are in the elite group of active players, and it may seem like those are the only people who play the game at times. If you don't see someone around the forums or irc, it is really easy to think they no longer exist. Case in point Me.
I've been alive and well (sorta) for the past few months. I never let my character die, but he got close a few times. I've heard tons of people tell me, that they thought I had died (ingame) and a few even thought I had been banned at some point in time. However, without articles, forum posts, or irc visits, its impossible for me to prove otherwise. I've been 2clicking my way through life for nearly 18 months now. As I go back and look through my past articles, its almost painful to see my "valiant attempts" at a comeback. Getting into this game is very hard, and once you've done it all, its harder for it to stick with you.
We (as a game community) have made great progress in attempting to engage the population, but a forum link just seems like extra work to someone who is only tentatively engaged in the game. Real connections with real people is what will draw people into the game. Sadly programs like Big Brother Big Siister, and Mentors really do not scale well. Besides, who really wants to personally message (none of that automated crap) 15 people every few days to make sure they are okay. Its fun, but until they are your friends, its just another ingame chore and duty. There is a divide between those who are "in" the social aspect of the game and those who are "out". They read articles, but do not comment. They vote, but do not campaign. They work, but do not own companies. This game is only mildly interesting to them at best, and as a passive player it is very easy to just die off.
- Engagement, Fullfillment, and the Return of Justinious's Wall O' Text -
I will have to break off part 2 into a separate article. I wanted this to be a nice concise article about how weird it is feeling like a new player who has been around for ages watching everyone else play out their game and not being able to join. However, as usual I got carried away and the scope and length of the article got away from me. Come back tomorrow for part two, and I hope you enjoyed the read.
Please disagree with me, I want to debate someone 😉
- Justin
Comments
Good to see you writing again.
Oh God your alive!? O.O
Nah I'm just kidding. Good to see some obvious activity from your. 🙂
I disagree with your face.
But srs, I think mentors have been the most successful State outreach program to date.
More quality articles like this might help retain more people ^-^
The forum and IRC are invaluable tools for running a country and creating a community, but you are right, there is "walled garden." I saw this a lot in eIsrael, where the RL Israeli community existed almost exclusively at an off-site Hebrew forum. Media in the country was dominated by the few Americans that would publish, and activity as a whole sunk downward (as it did everywhere in V2). I think if more discussion had occurred in-game in the media, more people (2-clickers that check articles) would have kept playing.
The point: I'd like to see more in-game forum style discussions in the media. Our vibrant community outside of the game will only sustain itself if we find a way to educate and involve those who are not yet part of it to become more active and want to participate and move beyond the wall.
Another oldie coming back and writing again.
Have you seen the in game forums? They got rid of all of the basic forums except Off Topic, Help and others like Help.
They even deleted all of the glorious V1/BETA forum threads!
Wow, Justin is back and better than ever. I can't wait for Justin4President part 17.
Looking forward to the next article!
Good to see an old fag writing articles again. Good stuff o/
Excellently said.
Good article and good questions. Making it easier to engage / join the conversation is key. Do you think that the meebo bar (at the bottom of this page as well as the fight pages) that allows newbies to chat with their existing friends from rlf and bring them into eRepublik can help? Its less intimidating than an irc or forum as a first step. We are testing this atm so feedback welcome.
Admin! 😁^ 😮OO
@Justinious
Welcome back I personally have missed reading your walls of text.
While I would not call it a garden I do agree that a 'walled community' exist more on the IRC and in the eUSForum. Sadly it is a community of older players who when a new player ask a question answer with, 'We have discussed that question a thousand time so STFU and GTFO.' If you are a old player and you can not be bothered with explaining something for millionth time then you need get out of the forums, out of IRC, out of politics and IMHO out of the game. This is a 'social strategy game' not a 'social bullying game' and in order to play you most socialize not bully.
This game has the worst in-game tools of any online browser game I've played. It is the only game I've seen where the players go out of their way to bypass the mechanisms the admins provide. Like CHS, I've complained long and hard about this, but one cannot completely blame the elites who fork over the money and take the time to set these things up - the players need tools that are reliable and do not give some players unfair advantage over the rest. Does eRep chat even work anymore ? Why did the admins take it upon themselves to trash the forums, so that you just have an "off-topic" dumping ground for player conversations ?
Excellent article. Look forward to the next one. This game is only as successful as the community works to actually BE a community. Great media is a seriously important part of that equation.
Also, your face. I too find it disagreeable, and I therefore x2 Joe Newton.
Hope to see you around more, you're legend.
I read this yesterday, but figure I'll comment later...I come back and there's Bonte up there. That's the magic of Justin.
Seriously though, you're right for the most part...and you should build that eRep clone. I'd actually start coding again to help with that.
>> I feel I could (and might actually) write a duplicate version of erepublik in my spare time.
A open source version of eRep would be pretty swell.
Regarding US Forum, I've participated in forums around the new world. In my experience, the US forum is by far the worst when it comes to the level of nastiness and ego-primping, though the Russians are pretty close.
Instead of having to send messages in plain texts to help our new citizens... I think that there needs to be a simple video of first how to eat, work, and fight- those are the main skills that are necessary, but for any player, they must learn things on their own, so that way they learn it in their own way, making it easier to remember.
I can sit down with a person (irl) and teach them how to play erepublik in 5 min, but through erepublik ,and messaging-its just a waste of effort and resources.
This last comment, by Donovanator, points out a cold hard fact. But is it the game? ...or is it just that we, as players, fail to connect with new players enough to impart 5 minutes worth of simple game basics? Sure... after we make some good friends, we happily share expertise with each other. But we can hardly be expected to spend much time trying to teach new players.
As in RL, it's fun helping people who seem to be getting something out of it. But without knowing our efforts have been worth the time, we simply stop trying to communicate on those levels. Over time, we get pmuch burned out from "banging our head up against some mad bugger's wall."
And, speaking of "walls o' words"... I love 'em.
Going to read your part 2 now.
Wow a blast from the past! I haven't been on here in ages, and to see you writing as if it was the beginning of the New world or even beta is great! I just wish eusa had some of its old strength it use to have too.
Wow..
This is what I call an article!
Respect!
Hope you are still here somewhere..
And to see more of your articles, for sure I will lurk on the old ones 😉
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