[v2] The first day of battles [stats]
Bogdan_L
Nobody's a guru in v2 military strategy. We had the chance to play a little bit in beta, but yesterday was the first time when thousands of citizens could enter on the battlefields to fight.
It is hard to say which would be the best strategy to win a battle, if there is one. But we could check the numbers from the yesterday's fights trying to find out what's possible and what's not, how many powerful fighters could cover how many regular citizens in terms of damage and of course in terms of the final result: Capital + 75% of the tiles.
[1] Battle of Piedmont (War: 2543)
Winner : Hungary
Attacker: 909 fighters, 94176 dmg, 1396 kills, 869 deaths
1 fight: 312 fighters, -8505 dmg, 54 k, 258 d
2 fights: 166 fighters, -10217 dmg, 155 k, 177 d
more than 2 fights: 236 fighters, -75459 dmg, 1187 k, 422 d
Defender: 1326 fighters, 65591 dmg, 870 kills, 1882 deaths
1 fight: 559 fighters, 8040 dmg, 39 k, 520 d
2 fights: 230 fighters, 9821 dmg, 139 k, 321 d
more than 2 fights: 331 fighters, 48092 dmg, 696 k, 968 d
Bigger damage on Hungary's side against 1.5 times more but not so powerful spaniards. The tanking (over 2 fights) went big time in favor of Hungary, the killls/deaths rate being probably the main reason of their win.
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[2] Battle of Podolia (War: 2571)
Winner : Republic-of-Moldova
Attacker: 1052 fighters, 127934 dmg, 1314 kills, 2404 deaths
1 fight: 327 fighters, -5756 dmg, 17 k, 310 d
2 fights: 149 fighters, -6522 dmg, 69 k, 229 d
more than 2 fights: 425 fighters, -115660 dmg, 1228 k, 1777 d
Defender: 410 fighters, 174002 dmg, 2327 kills, 1228 deaths
1 fight: 109 fighters, 2000 dmg, 11 k, 98 d
2 fights: 82 fighters, 3977 dmg, 39 k, 125 d
more than 2 fights: 236 fighters, 171960 dmg, 2325 k, 1084 d
One of the most exciting battles of yesterday, if not The One! 2.5 times more fighters for Ukraine comparing with romanians/moldavians. The damage was 1.4 times better for romanians. The fight was very close, all the tiles including the Capital changing their owner a couple of times. In the end romanian tanking made the difference, with a kills/deaths rate over 2, comparing with Ukraine's rate of 0.7
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[3] Battle of Slavonia (War: 80😎
Winner : Serbia
Attacker: 3092 fighters, 480562 dmg, 7026 kills, 6114 deaths
1 fight: 765 fighters, -14695 dmg, 74 k, 691 d
2 fights: 536 fighters, -25168 dmg, 359 k, 713 d
more than 2 fights: 1363 fighters, -440710 dmg, 6593 k, 4541 d
Defender: 4548 fighters, 406040 dmg, 5824 kills, 7093 deaths
1 fight: 1548 fighters, 27414 dmg, 147 k, 1401 d
2 fights: 688 fighters, 30285 dmg, 448 k, 928 d
more than 2 fights: 1426 fighters, 348595 dmg, 5232 k, 4546 d
Attackers:
1. Croatia: 191327.94 dmg, 1047 f, 1.072 k/d
2. Polan😛
69007.81 dmg, 660 f, 0.974 k/d
3. China: 61369.02 dmg, 236 f, 1.864 k/d
4. Spain: 36957.22 dmg, 564 f, 0.664 k/d
5. Romania: 26224.27 dmg, 155 f, 1.053 k/d
6. USA: 24926.87 dmg, 69 f, 2.220 k/d
7. Greece: 17105.85 dmg, 71 f, 1.676 k/d
8. Peru: 16610.7 dmg, 58 f, 1.636 k/d
9. Canada: 10647.18 dmg, 55 f, 1.551 k/d
10. Bosnia-Herzegovina: 6608.17 dmg, 30 f, 1.169 k/d
Defenders:
1. Serbia: 215857.8 dmg, 2457 f, 0.744 k/d
2. Hungary: 50243.6 dmg, 534 f, 0.961 k/d
3. Bosnia-Herzegovina: 18552.72 dmg, 107 f, 1.148 k/d
4. Brazil: 16761.35 dmg, 173 f, 0.789 k/d
5. Slovenia: 14570.35 dmg, 112 f, 1.370 k/d
6. Indonesia: 13702.15 dmg, 109 f, 1.139 k/d
7. France: 9917.93 dmg, 176 f, 0.737 k/d
8. Russia: 8667.82 dmg, 153 f, 1.103 k/d
9. Bulgaria: 7883.77 dmg, 196 f, 0.593 k/d
10. Germany: 7845.54 dmg, 113 f, 0.748 k/d
The bigger damage on Croatian side couldn't overpass the advantage of more fighters for serbs+allies. 100k diference in tanking versus more than 1500 citizens on the other side.
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[4] Battle of North Dalmatia (War: 1785)
Winner : Slovenia
Attacker: 822 fighters, 134620 dmg, 1796 kills, 719 deaths
1 fight: 225 fighters, -5877 dmg, 39 k, 186 d
2 fights: 104 fighters, -6977 dmg, 99 k, 109 d
more than 2 fights: 190 fighters, -121760 dmg, 1658 k, 409 d
Defender: 2692 fighters, 55207 dmg, 706 kills, 1805 deaths
1 fight: 1170 fighters, 16570 dmg, 105 k, 1065 d
2 fights: 248 fighters, 11262 dmg, 207 k, 289 d
more than 2 fights: 130 fighters, 27392 dmg, 394 k, 263 d
Attackers:
1. Slovenia: 91294.48 dmg, 523 f, 2.329 k/d
2. Serbia: 17739.18 dmg, 49 f, 6.184 k/d
3. Portugal: 5792.38 dmg, 41 f, 3.565 k/d
4. Japan: 3863.59 dmg, 2 f, 0.151 k/d
5. France: 2839.23 dmg, 15 f, 1.450 k/d
6. Belgium: 2821.82 dmg, 1 f, 0.143 k/d
7. Germany: 2633.51 dmg, 41 f, 2.053 k/d
8. Croatia: 2623.6 dmg, 36 f, 1.200 k/d
9. United-Kingdom: 1457.1 dmg, 9 f, 4.167 k/d
10. Bulgaria: 930.96 dmg, 10 f, 2.600 k/d
Defenders:
1. Polan😛
16503.68 dmg, 963 f, 0.334 k/d
2. China: 11351.98 dmg, 399 f, 0.562 k/d
3. Croatia: 6341.11 dmg, 202 f, 0.575 k/d
4. Greece: 4012.63 dmg, 305 f, 0.266 k/d
5. Peru: 2813.63 dmg, 16 f, 3.083 k/d
6. Canada: 2480.91 dmg, 162 f, 0.246 k/d
7. Romania: 2268.27 dmg, 133 f, 0.405 k/d
8. Sweden: 1709.48 dmg, 44 f, 0.667 k/d
9. USA: 957.03 dmg, 48 f, 0.500 k/d
10. Finlan😛
898.97 dmg, 43 f, 0.423 k/d
Something similar than the battle of Podolia, tanking versus number of fighters
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[5] Battle of Eastern Serbia (War: 2420)
Winner : Romania
Attacker: 293 fighters, 47389 dmg, 615 kills, 432 deaths
1 fight: 95 fighters, -2321 dmg, 4 k, 91 d
2 fights: 60 fighters, -3733 dmg, 48 k, 72 d
more than 2 fights: 104 fighters, -41331 dmg, 563 k, 259 d
Defender: 717 fighters, 31675 dmg, 454 kills, 689 deaths
1 fight: 309 fighters, 6045 dmg, 46 k, 263 d
2 fights: 102 fighters, 5146 dmg, 84 k, 120 d
more than 2 fights: 124 fighters, 20682 dmg, 326 k, 269 d
Better damage for Bulgaria, but not enough to cover more fighters for Romania
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[6] Battle of Northwest Croatia (War: 816)
Winner : Hungary
Attacker: 554 fighters, 91295 dmg, 1229 kills, 782 deaths
1 fight: 181 fighters, -3952 dmg, 22 k, 159 d
2 fights: 104 fighters, -6587 dmg, 87 k, 121 d
more than 2 fights: 192 fighters, -80756 dmg, 1120 k, 491 d
Defender: 1521 fighters, 58696 dmg, 714 kills, 1151 deaths
1 fight: 539 fighters, 10130 dmg, 59 k, 480 d
2 fights: 197 fighters, 10614 dmg, 147 k, 247 d
more than 2 fights: 189 fighters, 38976 dmg, 517 k, 442 d
Attackers:
1. Croatia: 40927.31 dmg, 229 f, 0.919 k/d
2. Romania: 15654.71 dmg, 98 f, 1.160 k/d
3. Sweden: 7700.6 dmg, 86 f, 0.800 k/d
4. Canada: 6423.36 dmg, 6 f, 10.333 k/d
5. Greece: 4704.75 dmg, 10 f, 0.706 k/d
6. Polan😛
3692.93 dmg, 42 f, 1.229 k/d
7. Bosnia-Herzegovina: 2190.63 dmg, 11 f, 2.214 k/d
8. China: 1712.84 dmg, 13 f, 1.900 k/d
9. Austria: 1516.12 dmg, 2 f, 4.167 k/d
10. USA: 1493.23 dmg, 15 f, 1.231 k/d
Defenders:
1. Hungary: 42007.44 dmg, 1140 f, 0.551 k/d
2. Portugal: 4978.79 dmg, 134 f, 0.608 k/d
3. Serbia: 2674.74 dmg, 31 f, 2.125 k/d
4. Argentina: 1195.56 dmg, 64 f, 0.275 k/d
5. Ukraine: 1182.01 dmg, 2 f, 0.231 k/d
6. France: 1178.75 dmg, 35 f, 0.850 k/d
7. Germany: 789.24 dmg, 28 f, 0.563 k/d
8. Chile: 594.21 dmg, 3 f, 0.400 k/d
9. Russia: 524.99 dmg, 1 f, 0.500 k/d
10. USA: 465.93 dmg, 4 f, 0.286 k/d
This time the number of hungarian fighters was enough to defend the better croatian damage
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[8] Battle of West Srpska Republic (War: 80😎
Winner : Serbia
Attacker: 1794 fighters, 27010 dmg, 368 kills, 805 deaths
1 fight: 507 fighters, -9059 dmg, 76 k, 431 d
2 fights: 140 fighters, -7281 dmg, 114 k, 166 d
more than 2 fights: 76 fighters, -10675 dmg, 178 k, 136 d
Defender: 358 fighters, 43739 dmg, 563 kills, 351 deaths
1 fight: 99 fighters, 2583 dmg, 8 k, 91 d
2 fights: 66 fighters, 4291 dmg, 58 k, 74 d
more than 2 fights: 105 fighters, 36864 dmg, 497 k, 182 d
Attackers:
1. Serbia: 16795.48 dmg, 1056 f, 0.466 k/d
2. Iran: 2080.31 dmg, 71 f, 1.100 k/d
3. Bulgaria: 1506.9 dmg, 173 f, 0.447 k/d
4. Bosnia-Herzegovina: 1281.05 dmg, 55 f, 0.375 k/d
5. France: 1088.25 dmg, 95 f, 0.298 k/d
6. Hungary: 725.02 dmg, 49 f, 0.409 k/d
7. Slovenia: 629.57 dmg, 29 f, 0.438 k/d
8. Russia: 487.67 dmg, 39 f, 0.417 k/d
9. Germany: 450.33 dmg, 42 f, 0.261 k/d
10. Italy: 233.2 dmg, 27 f, 0.182 k/d
Defenders:
1. Polan😛
7215.39 dmg, 47 f, 1.811 k/d
2. Peru: 6956.45 dmg, 8 f, 7.727 k/d
3. China: 6495.31 dmg, 36 f, 1.841 k/d
4. Croatia: 5651.08 dmg, 96 f, 0.707 k/d
5. Romania: 4913.83 dmg, 20 f, 1.047 k/d
6. USA: 3249.48 dmg, 10 f, 0.700 k/d
7. Finlan😛
1971.45 dmg, 26 f, 1.400 k/d
8. Greece: 1521.12 dmg, 20 f, 0.842 k/d
9. Bosnia-Herzegovina: 1433.88 dmg, 15 f, 0.941 k/d
10. Japan: 916.02 dmg, 9 f, 1.333 k/d
Not too much to say. Impressive effort from the croatian tanking, but not enough fighters
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[9] Battle of Lesser Sunda Islands (War: 2279)
Winner : Indonesia
Attacker: 205 fighters, 34728 dmg, 439 kills, 297 deaths
1 fight: 55 fighters, -1431 dmg, 2 k, 53 d
2 fights: 48 fighters, -3537 dmg, 45 k, 51 d
more than 2 fights: 70 fighters, -29757 dmg, 392 k, 192 d
Defender: 1799 fighters, 19511 dmg, 290 kills, 472 deaths
1 fight: 357 fighters, 8049 dmg, 96 k, 261 d
2 fights: 97 fighters, 4968 dmg, 91 k, 103 d
more than 2 fights: 49 fighters, 10183 dmg, 152 k, 84 d
Citizenships:
Attackers:
1. Australia: 14878.58 dmg, 103 f, 1.257 k/d
2. Polan😛
5934.6 dmg, 23 f, 0.526 k/d
3. Indonesia: 4759.84 dmg, 25 f, 2.148 k/d
4. China: 1861.9 dmg, 5 f, 1.538 k/d
5. Croatia: 1307.85 dmg, 6 f, 1.273 k/d
6. USA: 1197.67 dmg, 3 f, 0.286 k/d
7. Malaysia: 932.68 dmg, 2 f, 3.250 k/d
8. Canada: 751.69 dmg, 3 f, 1.333 k/d
9. Singapore: 461.89 dmg, 1 f, 0.571 k/d
10. South-Africa: 427.05 dmg, 1 f, 0.667 k/d
Defenders:
1. Indonesia: 7822.21 dmg, 540 f, 0.711 k/d
2. Turkey: 4271.75 dmg, 112 f, 1.727 k/d
3. Germany: 3087.92 dmg, 360 f, 0.440 k/d
4. United-Kingdom: 1544.1 dmg, 152 f, 0.220 k/d
5. Serbia: 1367.93 dmg, 129 f, 0.909 k/d
6. Hungary: 879.49 dmg, 167 f, 1.500 k/d
7. Russia: 666.43 dmg, 33 f, 1.111 k/d
8. Brazil: 517.02 dmg, 86 f, 0.400 k/d
9. Slovenia: 499.5 dmg, 33 f, 1.286 k/d
10. Netherlands: 373.96 dmg, 3 f, 0.333 k/d
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[15] Battle of Pomerania (War: 862)
Attacker: 3574 fighters, 19815 dmg, 304 kills, 520 deaths
1 fight: 488 fighters, -10754 dmg, 145 k, 343 d
2 fights: 84 fighters, -4577 dmg, 86 k, 82 d
more than 2 fights: 28 fighters, -4493 dmg, 73 k, 40 d
Defender: 272 fighters, 41191 dmg, 497 kills, 298 deaths
1 fight: 76 fighters, 1725 dmg, 0 k, 76 d
2 fights: 38 fighters, 2666 dmg, 33 k, 43 d
more than 2 fights: 72 fighters, 36804 dmg, 464 k, 175 d
Here's an example how double damage cannot do anything against 13 times more fighters
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And the biggest so far: 10800 fighters
[16] Battle of Washington (War: 639)
Attacker: 5377 fighters, 467416 dmg, 6790 kills, 6459 deaths
1 fight: 1776 fighters, -31076 dmg, 177 k, 1599 d
2 fights: 976 fighters, -44328 dmg, 697 k, 1255 d
more than 2 fights: 1277 fighters, -392026 dmg, 5916 k, 3339 d
Defender: 5407 fighters, 408704 dmg, 6202 kills, 6773 deaths
1 fight: 2016 fighters, 31545 dmg, 152 k, 1864 d
2 fights: 887 fighters, 42078 dmg, 650 k, 1124 d
more than 2 fights: 1328 fighters, 337216 dmg, 5427 k, 3421 d
Citizenships:
Attackers:
1. Russia: 138411.85 dmg, 521 f, 2.394 k/d
2. Hungary: 53993.36 dmg, 477 f, 1.252 k/d
3. Serbia: 46710.51 dmg, 1012 f, 0.703 k/d
4. France: 41824.85 dmg, 536 f, 1.031 k/d
5. Germany: 30127.25 dmg, 403 f, 0.804 k/d
6. Argentina: 15522.06 dmg, 397 f, 0.528 k/d
7. Bulgaria: 15414.77 dmg, 174 f, 0.946 k/d
8. Brazil: 13516.99 dmg, 252 f, 0.887 k/d
9. Estonia: 12672.5 dmg, 166 f, 0.901 k/d
10. Slovenia: 12151.6 dmg, 162 f, 0.954 k/d
Defenders:
1. Polan😛
113431.17 dmg, 1276 f, 0.956 k/d
2. USA: 99119.72 dmg, 1445 f, 0.807 k/d
3. Canada: 37361.51 dmg, 390 f, 1.124 k/d
4. China: 23904.15 dmg, 353 f, 0.902 k/d
5. Greece: 22059.41 dmg, 369 f, 0.816 k/d
6. Spain: 19327.98 dmg, 299 f, 0.843 k/d
7. Croatia: 18358.31 dmg, 256 f, 0.954 k/d
8. Romania: 16545.55 dmg, 273 f, 0.696 k/d
9. Sweden: 7989.29 dmg, 149 f, 0.639 k/d
10. India: 7011.05 dmg, 52 f, 1.594 k/d
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And some conclusions:
1. Take them down until they are not too many
As you could see a tank can easily kill many low damage citizens without losing any wellness point. As soon as the tank have to fight with many new comers, he will kill a couple of them but finally he has to bring more gold on the battlefield.
2. Spread them around as many as you can. Make them fast.
It was used yesterday, usually big group of low damage fighters are deploying and occupying the tiles. Using fast skills(heli) it would be better. It will take hours for a small and powerful army to recover.
3. Few, but strong.
Used yesterday, few groups of strong fighters going for important different objectives. With good coordination they are getting the attention, by dividing the opposition, usually gathered around capital.
4. Use your gold smart.
Avoid as much as you can the confrontation with many fighters or few but powerful. Otherwise It will make you spend like crazy.
Take the best from them🙂
Comments
tare de tot ...pacat ca e blank!
it's on🙂
Incep sa inteleg si eu acum noul modul 🙂
good art 🙂
Arată superb harta Romaniei azi!
▒▓█▀▄▀▄ NEMA PREDAJE ▄▀▄▀█▓
acolo unde damageul a fost mult mai mare dar nu s-a cucerit regiunea a fost clar un fail la organizare!
noi aratam super,dar croatii mai au putin si dispar....
big vote 🙂
Ne-am gasit si noi un scop in joc: Podolia, si croatii dispar de pe harta!?...nu imi place, cum ramane cu Cromania???
@Dandey94: cui ii pasa de croati. noi sa fim sanatosi!11!hurrdurr.
nu conteaza prea mult strategia, cel putin din cate am vazut in beta (nu am apucat inca sa lupt in v2); atat timp cat un amarat de shooter da cu o pusca de 3 ori critical damage impotriva unui tanc expert, nu prea vad cat de mult conteaza strategia ...
dupa mine, modulul de razboi e ca porcu' : 90% noroc, 10% strategie (sau experienta ... sau ce vrei tu); depinde cat de bine merge rand() pe serveru' ala 😃
Bogdan any chance you can do an average for how many fights/fighter? Since you only list 1,2 and more than 2 fights i can't figure it out for myself and i am curious to see how incredibly low the weapons consumption must be.
very nice comment from Dreamer 🙁
after Croatia will Romania disappear from the map, you forgot open MPP-s
Romanian angagment in Slavonia was terrible
imotax , croatia will not disappear from map, have faith 😁
@imotax: I was being sarcastic.
first croatia will disappear from the map 😃
but now on something more serious, why did romania take podolia, when they will lose it very easy when hungary gets there
" imotax , croatia will not disappear from map, have faith 😁 "
we are on two regions, surrounded by phoenix , with no allies blocking attackers nor paying much attention...
" imotax , croatia will not disappear from map, have faith 😁 "
we are on two regions, surrounded by phoenix , with no allies blocking attackers nor paying much attention...
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Hehe "The bigger damage on Croatian side couldn't overpass the advantage of more fighters for serbs+allies. 100k diference in tanking versus more than 1500 citizens on the other side."
9 oclock was 300 croat and 2 serb on the map we slaughterd your army in Slavonia 😃D And russia took Seattle too 😃D
we love you Bogdan
Zivela Srbija!
"imotax , croatia will not disappear from map, have faith 😁"
Of course they will, you can see that even they don't believe in opposite.
"Attacker: 3092 fighters, 480562 dmg, 7026 kills, 6114 deaths
Defender: 4548 fighters, 406040 dmg, 5824 kills, 7093 deaths"
In V2 it's not damage only thing that counts, number of citizens on the battlefield and especially organization are much more important. You can see it in battle of Slavonia and few others too.
Nice comparison, a really usefull article 😉
Voted
@Ernst: because last hour of the battle the defenders got like 3 rounds while attackers got like 15?
good info as usal
you forgot WA 🙂
Hail Cromania!
@ BedVa : don't be so angry against romanians, they just prefer conquering Podolia than helping you to liberate your country, because they are true allies, not like USA 😉 http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-battle-of-podolia-congrats--1459955/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-[..]1/20
Nexus, 10 times worse? that's an offensive comment for every Romanian, you have no idea what you just said.
Imi plac concluziile, acum sa jucam inteligent daca putem 🙂
Nu mai conteaza cat de multi sunt pe campul de batalie si cate mpp-uri ai.
Daca esti inteligent si organizat esti invingator.
Sa speram ca planul super organizarii um-urilor va fi pus in aplicare.
wow, nice statistic as before
but, how about Indonesia vs Australia in Lesser Sunda Island and Western Australia?
it's a quite great fight, but it seems like 1 on 1 fight
poor eCroatia.. 0.o
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Greece
Ati citit ce scrie nexus CPI? 🙁
Daca nu-i ajutam sa-si recupereze tara, in curand vom avea aceeasi soarta. Cand ne vor ataca pe noi, Croatia nu va mai exista ca sa ne sara in ajutor...
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United we stand, divided we will fall...
HissAirness-err, you missed the tense, it should say we HAVE fallen
you fail anyway hahahahah 😃
France done an amazing work 😮
united you fall, divided you fall
Se how strong Serbia is !
look on u'r dmg on hole bettels ..
croatia is only baby for us
congraz rus for wasington .. 1000 serbs fight for u there 😃
i think the new battle-system won't be interesting for too many people. too much time for minimal excitement - and slow as hell.
and if battles are boring then people will leave the game. or not coming - except the fake ones 😃
Where is UK?
@Radu Panagiu: N-ai nici cea mai vaga idee despre ce vorbesti.gtfo.
If Croatia has a better friend...
3. China: 61369.02 dmg, 236 f, 1.864 k/d
China,u have my respect!!!
u remind me on my own country 🙂
we are mby smaller than Spain,Poland,Romania or USA,but when it comes to fight(especialy non MPPs fights),we are in top3 dmg and we send "our entire nation"...but guess it doesnt matter right now 😒
sa ne trezim 🙂 si sa eliberam Croatia
If Croatia has a better friend... X2