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Go for it shocky..Time to go back to India's golden period 🙂

followed by good big 'dark age' !

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Last time you started on a clean slate. This time you have Lysander's current foreign policy to think about.

+ a trust deficit with CoT nations. Overall, more complex than last time.

Nevertheless, good luck.

CoT nations? you mean Albania and Croatia...coz they virtually run CoT now.

What a stupid thing to say. Just because you personally have chosen to kiss up to TWO does not mean you have the right to be dishonest about people and countries who actually gave a d--- about India.

Really? Since when did you start actually caring about India? If you really do care about India then you would have left India long back.

Though what you say has merit, it is not completely true.

This is the reason that at the end of the day, we are still failing to strike a balance. India can benefit a lot from a non-aligned righteous policy, instead of trying to strike deals with anyone who can get us a region. Have we tried this before?!

But, no. All that we seem to be concerned of is a Congress. Yes, it is great to have one. But whenever we have had Congress in the recent past, we have misused it very aptly.

And all the other times when we tried to bootlick our way to having a region, it has backfired - and guess what - we don't have any now; and lost all last remnants of trust as well.

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That's exactly what I am trying to say think about it yourself Rudraneel. It was CoT that fought for our enemies when we fought against BiH..And we didnt fight against them for congress we fought to liberate regions.

Secondly there is nothing called being non Aligned in this game...you choose either Bloc. whether join them or be a pro. We have tried to stay non alligned before after quitting EDEN and we lost everything thanks to croatia and their usual excuse. Then we got into the boot licking way, got a region, continued with 1 region for 6 months until we decided to get rid of Pak. Then again Alb took those regions we liberated. We did it again with BiH and Croatia took that region. The fact is there are few nations here who want us to continue being the dust on their feet. Region or No doesnt matter dont forget big nations like Bg, Mkd havent had region since a long time. Even croatia and Albania for one dont have their original region.

yo arrlo ,,,,,, I offer u a deal ......u want NAP nah ??? 8 regions in return for NAP and albania has to leave eIndia

ShockWavve if you are elected president then there is no negotiation. End.

@Obliterate: Why negotiate with countries that you cannot trust? Never has who we decide to propose an MPP with ever been part of any deals we made. To use that as an excuse to break one shows the nature of your character.

@Lysander: When someone negotiates with me and says India is "friendly" and "pro CoT" then for me that constitutes an understanding that MPPs with TWO -- you know, that alliance fighting CoT -- will not be signed.

Why negotiate with people you cannot trust indeed, that's why if ShockWavve is elected there will not be talks.

I am in complete agreement with you. However, there has been some serious communication follies during ShockWavve's last term.

The current power dynamics in this game demand that we take our steps carefully. Any occupants of our territories need to be handled diplomatically than militarily. In our war against BiH, Albania and Croatia did openly fire against us. But, there were some major policy deviations that occurred from the President's office, and even to this day, there is little clarification that has been obtained in that regard.

what info u want from my term ????

I had a cabinet of 30 highly active eIndians ........we had a joint in game thread ......everything was disscussed ........I followed what was discussed

and about dipolomacy ........oh man do u even know how many time croatia and albania broke the deals ..........they even dropedd to lowest lvl by insulting indian religion ( yes they did that)

what clarification u want mate ??????? it was a open policy ......... we dont want anymore abuses or insults ......we are happy with being wiped ......but we wont strike a deal with them only to get insulted again

ShockWavve, you need to relax and try to see the bigger picture.
Everything here is happening for a reason. I am asking you to not speak right now.

Excuses excuses ShockWavve. Did I insult you, any country or any religion? No, so cut this nonsense. You came to me to talk, new president to new president, and everything we talked about was about what would happen in the present and in the future. We made a good start by liberating Jharkhand, and as far as I was concerned this was the beginning of something better for us.

I had no idea that you were negotiating with TWO the whole time, and once that emerged all trust between us was lost and there was nothing more to say. You had as much TWO backing as you'll ever get, during a time when "epic tournament" made them even stronger, and you still lost.

TWO is no friend of India, but Bulgaria has never ever stopped making your case to us. You should be ashamed if you try to deny that.

arrlo ......... I still dont know what mine signing some MPPs with two nations worries you ???

even your some buddy nations are in TWO ........so whats wrong ?????

next ......I didnt do anything against croatia .......I even offered you a MPP ......mate ku rejected me .....and that time I have not signed any mpps with two nations ..........
I have said it before arrlo and saying it again .........you are a good guy and u dont deserve to be in croatia .

about bosnia .......you expext me to sit quiet when Bosnian congress members sends me pics of dead cows ?? and their mofa makes threats , makes fun of our friendship with bulgaria ???

arrlo ......... I still dont know what mine signing some MPPs with two nations worries you ???

even your some buddy nations are in TWO ........so whats wrong ?????

next ......I didnt do anything against croatia .......I even offered you a MPP ......mate ku rejected me .....and that time I have not signed any mpps with two nations ..........
I have said it before arrlo and saying it again .........you are a good guy and u dont deserve to be in croatia .

about bosnia .......you expext me to sit quiet when Bosnian congress members sends me pics of dead cows ?? and their mofa makes threats , makes fun of our friendship with bulgaria ???

I am aware of that. But, I have observed that the issue of Croatian occupation has not been handled sensitively.

After not having a stance for too long, if we try to establish ourselves overnight, it's obvious that no country would take cognizance of such sudden realization.

We have faultily elected spineless CPs at times (I don't have to name the obvious ones), and during those times our position has gone for a toss.

The fact is, we have very little of something called a foreign policy which - very few realize - is essential for diplomacy and alliances. India is not taken seriously not because we don't have a big enough active populace, but due to our lack of policy. Whatever has remained, we have chosen to juggle.

Also, if you are telling me that there is nothing like non-alignment in this game, then I find it difficult to agree with. At this moment, barring the unofficial rizon-chats (if any) that hardly find a mention, India does not see itself "placed" in any of the alliances. Even TWO does not "officially" consider us as part of either TWO or even ACT.

And, how many times have we tried to logically, in a policy-oriented manner, canvass assistance of CoT nations? I would like to know that.

Also, has anybody ever tried to define India's foreign affairs determinant in line with bilateral policies? I doubt ever.

I would invite foreign representatives to comment upon this, if they deem necessary to do so.

be active on irc and in community works ........you will get to know all bro

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What was our policy for 8 months? We were and had been pro CoT for those 8 months. We had a very strong diplomatic relationship until we relaized that the prio of CoT is Albania and Croatia. We had been doing diplomacy shit for 8 fucking months what did we get in return? 2 regions at the most. 5 countries on our regions. TWO or ACT doesnt officially consider us a part dont forget CoT never did as well. USA has always been anti India. India helped CoT in their wars for 8 months we had their wars in prio we gave them monetary support during their liberation wars. We even went ahead and signed NAP with ABC nations and licked their boots as CoT wanted us to do.What else do you expect and want?
India's foreign policy has been strong for past several months and when we took the help of TWO and ACT to liberate our region not just once but several times. All the while CoT was helping our enemies. And now we have people like you who want to go back to CoT. do you expect any country to believe us or trust us?
Foreign Policy is made over a long course of time it doesnt change with every election. 8 months was a long enough time to change our outlook and that's what we had to show to convince nations to help us in our wars as well, to convince them that we are not oppurtunists to jump bandwagon and that the decision we took was after much deliberation.
Unfortunately the problem we face is from within the country when people have no patience and want us to jump back and forth. We took decision to go pro TWo last month and you expect them to accept us immediately after 8 months of being proCoT. And worse you want us to go back to being proCoT.
Sorry but if thats how things are going to work India will never liberate any regions. And please before commenting take a look at the work done and effort put in past. It's very easy to talk and say we should do diplomacy and much more easier to be a hypocrite. If you have to achieve something the first thing you need is patience.

Thank you Uv Ajed. You have helped me complete my work. 🙂

And, if you will not mind, I would take a snapshot of this conversation/ rant-spree.
Explanations, later.

Rudraneel : You are a Yuuva Leader right??

I figured...

Shocky ... Its not such a wonder that he talks to u in this mode 😁


This is just a Joke.. No need to blast out at me ..

@Ananthakrishnan (sorry, I prefer to keep my Caps Lock Off):

1. Yes, I belong to YUUVA; but, you might find it surprising that I am not a leader. And nobody decides when I become one, barring me. 🙂

2. I am neither intending nor willing to receive answers from ShockWavve here.

3. This is not just a joke. With me, the game ceases to be on IRC. The sooner you understand, the better.

On a lighter note,

LOL. xD

facepalm party loves me more then india...xD

I am expecting shouts against me during elections.........and I have been informed that they already started in nirvana feed ............hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah

What do you mean exactly???

And real Lol... U guys are so Short Tempered.. But you are Cool...

Yes. Lot of them are. Ready to bazooka off at the slightest spark.

And, ShockWavve still seems to love rubbing their wounds. Bests for him, if he wishes so. I sincerely hope he improves his English by a strand. Or maybe, he does it purposely. I don't want to blame that as a reason for eIndia not having many allies. Maybe he intends good, but turns out total wrong - thanks (or sorry) to his communication skills.
Either way "Shocky", you're welcome to join YUUVA.. and even become the PP. I really want to see the party guided by you - at least once. 😛

And about the gameplay that ensued above, allow me some time before I explain it to all. Have a few things to sort.

Bottomline ... The game is for nations with large populations, big spenders and egoistic or bigoted players who take role play far too seriously. So, diplomacy or force, unless you can retain a region, accept the fact that there will be some victories and many losses and go for increasing population slowly. We will have some epic battles just like the one we had sometime back (well it was nice for me!) and its these that we will remember. I seriously have no idea what I would do differently if we had any regions!

We would airstrike other weaker countries. That's how the ball rolls. 😛

*sense-sarcasm-people*

good one Rudra,
You've nailed it.

Rudra : Help us by stating.. which Country U mean as a " Weaker Country" than India for us to do an airstrike.. that is :

1)It shud be weak : population wise, Economical, Military
2)It shud have regions for us to airstrike
3)No Strong Allies
4)No Current Natural enemy or any other nation intended to wipe it out

Please tell me a nation that suits all these points.. then we can think of a Airstrike as if any of these points is not true for your so called "Weaker Countries". there is no way that we can airstrike..


@@Roland : You have a point.. The only difference is that We get a congress and only then can we increase our Population (By Accepting CitizenShip Requests). We need regions... thats something for sure..

@Ananthakrishnan: Again!! sense sarcasm "PLEASE"?

You are an inspiration to the entire country (or at least to the sensible ones).

Did not intend to. Nevertheless, inspiring sense is all that matters for us all. Plus, it is gratuitous.
I appreciate the confidence that you (and any) place in me. Humbled.

@Rudra : Awesome... This small Comment of yours has got 34 Sub Comments... Most of them Super Large... U should be making headlines soon 😛

Thank you for counting them for the world.

Headline or not, you have allowed me to head your line.

@Rudra.. U have not yet given me a Clear answer.. WHich Country??

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where your troll cab now?

Not here actually... it just left.. Catch it at the next station 😛

Catch it at the next "election" would be more ideal! 😛

Guys, a good news from real life governance. I want you all to read this article that I have published today.

Please note that I am NOT requesting votes or subscriptions. Just take note for your own good, to know what's coming up in real India.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/universal-health-coverage-in-india-2334641/1/20

Thanks for your attention.