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***The Rise And Fall, Of Who We Are***
"You Either Die a Hero, or Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become the Villain".
What can I tell you... I've been wondering about that phrase a lot... probably because people keep talking about me as the villian.
"hmm Sadeh, are you the villian, as this people claim?"
No, I do not, honestly.
Im not hero, and not a villian, im what eIsrael needs me to be.
I know what i just said gonna make you think ima complete moron but hear me out first, something you didnt do until now, atleast most of you.
Im not going to go much into the past and explain my actions since in my article "The Times Of The Ancients" I already said, I do know taking the treasury was "no right" action. Which mean that I shouldnt have done it from the moral aspect.
So in order for you to understand it, since I belive some people just dont want to accept it, this action was wrong- here you can read me saying that.
From that aspect you could say I've become a villian, indeed.
But let me ask rhetorical question please:Was it the smart thing to do?
Yes, yes, and again, definitely yes.
If you for one second will agree to put your anger aside and look at the absolute truth of events with no relation to what you think about me in the game, there is no way you can say this action wasnt smart.NOT RIGHT, but smart.
That is, if I didnt do this action that probably more people would see me now in greater light, which is good to me, but if I didnt jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with, destroying the value of our currency.
Now you wont hear my saying that "I secreficed myself for the better of the country" sicne in this specific case its only part of the true, but not all of it.Since I did do it from being angry and bit of childish.
If you wonder what did I think in the time I did it you can ask me in private since its not the idea of this thread and will involve my belief of who is responsible for a lot of the mess in this country.
So yeah, part one is done, about the stealing part, but its only half way to go.
Now the second part is coming Jmath's presidency and my comback to IL.
Few days before Jmath turned to be president, I said im going to give Israel the 4 companies that are now in OBOI, so they can make profit, something they need.
So instead giving it to CJ I just waited for the next president so it will be more organized.
(Katarina can prove it if you want).
Jmath got 4 companies, Q4 company had 186 weapons, that he stole almost all of it, and moving tickets have been stolen as well by him, didnt look for the food.
When he said its really him that messed things up I kinda knew that like you he thinks im not for the good of Israel, or that he just likes me, so I asked "atleast for the org I gave you back" and he gave me, didnt really know why but didnt care as well, as long as it was mine for the good of eIsrael later.
I've been told by 2 people yesterday and now that im accused for helping Jmath by the way.
Someone gave me the article of hyman about me and "turkish barbarians".
If you do belive I helped Jmath to do any of this I can say you that:You live in a very bad drama movie.
You have no reason to claim it, nor prove it, since it didnt really happend I can say it is only unsupported assumption to show me in bad light no more.
After seeing what happend to Israel by Jmath and yyytttvvv and reading two articles of Buzzy and Elianna, I decided I must come back, no matter how hard it is, not metter how much resistence, I knew I will do everything to come back and help to save the country from the wreckages.
As you can see in this article I will try to shatter any wrong belief I heard about me in some places.
I did not say for one minute you will get the money back ONLY IF I will be president or anything like that, the org with money and companies and everything will be given back to the next president, Zaib Atsu as far as I can tell.
Now as long for those who saying I came back to...to... well im not sure what you think since there is not way any reasonable person will think that: A fallen person that come to you when you:
-Have no money.
-No Mpps.
-President that want to damage you.
-In war with stronger country that has 8 MPPs of strongest countries in the game and can take u easly.
-Lots of smart players leaving and decrease in population.
AND OFFER TO:
-Apologize for his acts.
-Give back what he took in first place.
-Help you to recover the country.
-Make this country in the best shape ever until now, since he has learned all the mistakes he done in the past.
And been blamed for what again? I want you to remind me....
What can I do wrong now? you are already in one of the lowest shape ever.
The fact myself and Zaib talked with the president of Turkey non stop in order for him to hold the TO Jmath wanted to make againt us doesnt tell you anything?
Im not taking credit but yeah:
I did with Turkish president, and turkish citiezns, and my friends, and to greece, and EDEN just to make sure we are covered up.
For god's sake if you think I did all that in order to harm israel in anyway you must be crazy or the most closed mind person I've ever seen and please, dont talk with me and dont comment here coz I dont want to have any relation with such player.
Regarding the issue of the 2k I gave back, it was only to show up that im serious and going to give ALL BACK as soon as we have new president, Seeroy thought it will show the people good intentions, and I wanted to hope so tho I expected to see the comments I saw more or less...
If I didnt really want eIsrael's best I would just stay with the money, thousands of golds for christ sake...why would I even bother for one second?
It seems like most of you know about me what you have been told by those who were angry, that is not a single good action, and im very sad about it, coz it can easily make you hate me as you do now.
A good man, and specially a good leader always know the fact before acting in anyway, and always keep his mind opened coz u cant know what will happen, and I hope most of you will be able to understand that.
What can I tell you... I've been wondering about that phrase a lot... probably because people keep talking about me as the villian.
"hmm Sadeh, are you the villian, as this people claim?"
No, I do not, honestly.
Im not hero, and not a villian, im what eIsrael needs me to be.
I know what i just said gonna make you think ima complete moron but hear me out first, something you didnt do until now, atleast most of you.
Im not going to go much into the past and explain my actions since in my article "The Times Of The Ancients" I already said, I do know taking the treasury was "no right" action. Which mean that I shouldnt have done it from the moral aspect.
So in order for you to understand it, since I belive some people just dont want to accept it, this action was wrong- here you can read me saying that.
From that aspect you could say I've become a villian, indeed.
But let me ask rhetorical question please:Was it the smart thing to do?
Yes, yes, and again, definitely yes.
If you for one second will agree to put your anger aside and look at the absolute truth of events with no relation to what you think about me in the game, there is no way you can say this action wasnt smart.NOT RIGHT, but smart.
That is, if I didnt do this action that probably more people would see me now in greater light, which is good to me, but if I didnt jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with, destroying the value of our currency.
Now you wont hear my saying that "I secreficed myself for the better of the country" sicne in this specific case its only part of the true, but not all of it.Since I did do it from being angry and bit of childish.
If you wonder what did I think in the time I did it you can ask me in private since its not the idea of this thread and will involve my belief of who is responsible for a lot of the mess in this country.
So yeah, part one is done, about the stealing part, but its only half way to go.
Now the second part is coming Jmath's presidency and my comback to IL.
Few days before Jmath turned to be president, I said im going to give Israel the 4 companies that are now in OBOI, so they can make profit, something they need.
So instead giving it to CJ I just waited for the next president so it will be more organized.
(Katarina can prove it if you want).
Jmath got 4 companies, Q4 company had 186 weapons, that he stole almost all of it, and moving tickets have been stolen as well by him, didnt look for the food.
When he said its really him that messed things up I kinda knew that like you he thinks im not for the good of Israel, or that he just likes me, so I asked "atleast for the org I gave you back" and he gave me, didnt really know why but didnt care as well, as long as it was mine for the good of eIsrael later.
I've been told by 2 people yesterday and now that im accused for helping Jmath by the way.
Someone gave me the article of hyman about me and "turkish barbarians".
If you do belive I helped Jmath to do any of this I can say you that:You live in a very bad drama movie.
You have no reason to claim it, nor prove it, since it didnt really happend I can say it is only unsupported assumption to show me in bad light no more.
After seeing what happend to Israel by Jmath and yyytttvvv and reading two articles of Buzzy and Elianna, I decided I must come back, no matter how hard it is, not metter how much resistence, I knew I will do everything to come back and help to save the country from the wreckages.
As you can see in this article I will try to shatter any wrong belief I heard about me in some places.
I did not say for one minute you will get the money back ONLY IF I will be president or anything like that, the org with money and companies and everything will be given back to the next president, Zaib Atsu as far as I can tell.
Now as long for those who saying I came back to...to... well im not sure what you think since there is not way any reasonable person will think that: A fallen person that come to you when you:
-Have no money.
-No Mpps.
-President that want to damage you.
-In war with stronger country that has 8 MPPs of strongest countries in the game and can take u easly.
-Lots of smart players leaving and decrease in population.
AND OFFER TO:
-Apologize for his acts.
-Give back what he took in first place.
-Help you to recover the country.
-Make this country in the best shape ever until now, since he has learned all the mistakes he done in the past.
And been blamed for what again? I want you to remind me....
What can I do wrong now? you are already in one of the lowest shape ever.
The fact myself and Zaib talked with the president of Turkey non stop in order for him to hold the TO Jmath wanted to make againt us doesnt tell you anything?
Im not taking credit but yeah:
I did with Turkish president, and turkish citiezns, and my friends, and to greece, and EDEN just to make sure we are covered up.
For god's sake if you think I did all that in order to harm israel in anyway you must be crazy or the most closed mind person I've ever seen and please, dont talk with me and dont comment here coz I dont want to have any relation with such player.
Regarding the issue of the 2k I gave back, it was only to show up that im serious and going to give ALL BACK as soon as we have new president, Seeroy thought it will show the people good intentions, and I wanted to hope so tho I expected to see the comments I saw more or less...
If I didnt really want eIsrael's best I would just stay with the money, thousands of golds for christ sake...why would I even bother for one second?
It seems like most of you know about me what you have been told by those who were angry, that is not a single good action, and im very sad about it, coz it can easily make you hate me as you do now.
A good man, and specially a good leader always know the fact before acting in anyway, and always keep his mind opened coz u cant know what will happen, and I hope most of you will be able to understand that.
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Talked to Sadeh on IRC, and I actually like the guy.
he lives not that far away, and if he ever messes up I will pay him a visit and hit him
וואו זה ארוך...
יש סיכוי אתה מתרגם את זה?
אממממ לא חחחח זה ארוך טילים
Lol.
You stole our money. WHY?? Give us one good reason.
By the way, if your ellected to president again I'm killing myself.
Well I just gave you more then one, so read the article.
And prepare the rope!
>"but if I didnt (steal the treasury) jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with, destroying the value of our currency."
I am stunned at your foresight, Sadeh! You mean to say you stole our nation's savings not because you were throwing a hissy fit about losing the IWP nomination, but because you had a premonition that someday a president would abuse it? You, sir, shouldnt be playing this game, you should be working for the police!
"For god's sake if you think I did all that in order to harm israel in anyway you must be crazy or the most closed mind person I've ever seen"
No, obviously I didnt think you were trying to harm us, you were just on a massive power trip and some new players didnt like that you had dictatorial power over the country, so you jacked the dough and broke out.
THAT. MEANS. YOU. ARE. A. TRAITOR.
eIsrael will not forgive you, Sadeh, I suggest you stay in Spain.
Until everything you stole is back, this is all just empty words. Blah, blah, blah. Try again after you've actually repaid the country.
what are you stupid? you stole money and this little speech and retuen was already known. your ass better not be on any ballot.
TZ its clearly you are one of those I asked not to comment here, since just take everything I say and comment about it as if I said something else... like me saying again and again this was wrong have never been written in my article, and I didnt say I knew that JMATH will steal it but that something bad will happen with it, read again if you dont understand in the first time, and AGAIN, it was wrong.
Maelyn, when we kick out Jmath, and zaib will be president, you will see.
Its Jose, very mature...
"That is, if I didnt do this action that probably more people would see me now in greater light, which is good to me, but if I didnt jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with, destroying the value of our currency."
I do not understand this logic at all... It is better for two people to each steal a part of the treasury, rather than just one? Gee, here's a thought: How about our presidents STOP ROBBING US. Sadeh, I hadn't been playing very long before you took the treasury. I played long enough however to learn about your role in Israel's earlier days. As far as I could tell you were a national hero. But you abused this trust to rob Israel. How can you hope to regain our trust before you have even returned what you have taken? Even if you do return all of it, you are going to have to regain our trust through actions, not words and excuses ("if I didnt jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with" Even you must recognize this as complete bullshit.)
"but if I didnt jmath would have now like 30K NIS more that he could play with, destroying the value of our currency."
You already answered Zohan's concern, but I don't think you were stealing our money for the sake of the future, considering you have yet to even return all of it.
pointing to Jmath's actions in hope's we'll see yours in a better light is not the way to regain trust. Have you considered that maybe your actions inspired him? Thats like saying "Hey, I robbed a guy, and it was wrong, but that guy over there did something worse! Look!"
It doesn't excuse your actions, nor does pointing out were others screwed up make it less of a crime.
@Sadeh - What you continue to fail to realize is that YOU instigated these series of events that has placed Israel in the position it is today.
You took much more from Israel than our orgs, companies, gold and INS. I don't think I need to elaborat as it's pretty self evident.
You want a chance for Israel to forgive you for what you've done? Then shut up, man up, do the right thing and return ALL of what you've stolen. I wouldn't hold your breath on that forgiveness, but atleast it's a good start towards redemtion.
OMG i have tears on my face Sadeh you almost make me cry with your bullshit article . You stole from your own people who put their trust in you and now in place to say just SORRY you are trying to make us see you like a come back hero who will give back what is ours . no way my friend you are just a traitor pure and simple !
Mature? You stole from our nations treasury. Whats the difference if JMATh stole it all than you? Different people, same shit.
You getting the hint there Sadeh? Out of the 11 Israelis that posted here, 2 support you and the other 9 busted your chops.
Read any of the other articles concerning you? You should because they all have the same results.
You want to prove yourself to Israel? Give back all the gold/nis that you have stolen from our nation. Now.
i think you fail to understand that in the eyes of the people you should have been the most admirable person. u are just like a leper.
u remind me of that deformed spartan in 300 that betrayed his own people his own countrymen just because they didn't want to play with him. he sold them to the enemy. even if later own shown remorse in his actions. his countrymen still see only betrayal. a person who can betray once wont have any problems to do it again..
u also don't need to remind us that one of the + if the country will get you back in open arms that u give the money you stole. that shouldn't be even in discussion. anyway. whats even more funny and tragic as i can see that you are israeli in RL.. מה שהופך אותך למישהו מאד לפלף. ובעצם שווה ערך (בדימוי במשחק לא בחיים האמיתיים ) לכל הפוליטיקאים המושחתים האלה כמו אולמרט או הסוטים האלה כמו קצב. שהם פוליטיקאים מן השורה הראשונה והם יודעים איך לנהל מדינה. אבל מה לעשות הם חרא של אנשים והם לא צריכים להיות בעמדת כח בשום פנים ואופן.
You threw us into this mess. You kicked CJ in the back after he approached the IWP selection with care and tact. You split the IWP taking a lot of the good members out of the party, thus reducing their influence over the Presidential selection.
I welcome your pledge to return our money and companies. But you are not our saviour. You kicked this country in the teeth, and expect us to welcome you with open arms. I'm sorry, you will have to work much harder than that.
FK