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[Q5 Hospitals] US Open Your Eyes
Disclaimer – I have been called a troll and PEACE propagandist last time I have confronted the current administration and a few Congress candidates regarding the issue of Q5 hospital. Read the article to the end and there you can choose either to take the blue pill and wake up in your bed to continue living your life or you can take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland and you’ll see and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
There is a start of a debate if the USA needs more Q5 hospitals or not. I will present you in the form of a Q&A some reasons and solutions why more hospitals should be placed in the USA and how this can be made without the government spending a dime. For musical background listen to this
Q: Why are Q5 hospitals so important?
Zoli: Q5 hospitals will allow the population to fight 5 times in battles from home soil. This way they will gain experience points and increase there rank. Currently only Florida and New Jersey have Q5 hospital – 5207 inhabitants in these regions, so about 35% of the population can benefit from this. All the rest lose at least 1 fight/day or 2 fight every battle. Taking into account that there have been 12 training battles up to now those living in a region with Q4 hospital lost 24 fights, that is 48 XP points and around 580 damage on average. People leaving in regions with a Q2 hospital lost 72 fights, that is 144 XP and 1728 damage.
Q: Why is rank and XP so important?
Zoli: For a person in a region with Q2 hospital the 144 XP lost could mean the difference between Level 15 (300XP) and Level 16 (500XP) and that would mean 5 GOLD for the player. So people would level up more quickly and could collect the 5 GOLD for increasing in level faster than now. It would mean more money for the USA citizens and thus for the US economy. Regarding damage a Lieutenant means at least 1500 damage. So probably new players registered in those region are still Sergeants (750-1499) so that is a loss of 20% that citizens does in every fight compared to a person who lives in a region with Q5 hospital.
Q: How much would it cost to make a Q5 company to build hospitals?
Zoli: The cost would be 20 GOLD (starting company) + 20 GOLD (Q2 upgrade) + 50 GOLD (Q3 upgrade) + 100 GOLD (Q4 upgrade) + 200 GOLD (Q5 upgrade) = Total of 390 GOLD
Q: That is a lot. And how about the cost of building a Q5 hospital?
Zoli: You would need 10.000 unit of wood. On the US market the cost o a unit of wood is around 0.52-0.53 USD, so it would cost 5300 USD. Regarding wages the best ones in construction on the US market are 30 USD for skill 7, 23 USD for skill 6 and 17 USD for skill 5. So let’s make our calculations with an average skill 6 and a pay of 23 USD. With an optimal number of 20 employees with wellness over 90, they will build 0.85 out of 2000 units for every level of skill. This means a skill 6 employee will produce daily 5.1 unit of hospital and 20 employees will produce 102 units out of 2000. This means the hospital will be built in 20 days, and the total wages will be of 23 USD * 20 workers *20 days = 9200 USD. Deducting the income tax which is the revenue of the state the manufacturing cost is 7360 USD.
So the total cost of building the Q5 hospital is 12660 USD (5300 USD the raw materials and 7360 USD the wages), or around 253 GOLD.
Q: But if a private person makes the hospital the price would have to be well over 253 GOLD in order to cover his initial investment and make some profit?
Zoli: True. I do not advise anybody to make a Q5 hospital company. The state should do this. For them a Q5 hospital company would be a limited but almost endless sack of GOLD. The Government should make the company. Here is a plan how they should do it.
1. The start up cost: -390 GOLD
2. Building the first hospital: -12660 USD
3. Selling the hospital to a foreign nation: +300 GOLD income
4. Building the second hospital: -12660 USD
5. Selling the second hospital to a foreign nation: +300 GOLD income
At this point the second hospital would already bring tons of profit for the state.
Q: But that is not true! The initial investment and the cost of building the first 2 hospitals is still bigger than the revenue generated by the sale of the hospitals. And who do you think will buy those hospitals?
Zoli: There are so many new countries popping up on the map. Each has 1000 GOLD and they would gladly spend 300 GOLD on buying a hospital in order to help develop their new players.
And you forget that the state has a fantastic ability – it can issue money at a very good exchange rate 1 GOLD = 200 USD. This means that after selling the first 2 hospitals it will cover the initial 390 GOLD cost and could transform the remaining 210 GOLD in 42.000 USD so it will cover not only the cost of the 2 hospitals but it will cover the construction cost of a third hospital.
In fact from this point on for every hospital this company is going to sell abroad it will be able to build 3 Q5 hospitals it can place in the USA.
Q: Zoli, this is great news. But people will not move to Florida and New Jersey then and the military leaders tell us that is very important.
Zoli: After placing a few new Q5 hospitals the number of inhabitants in Florida and New Jersey will grow slower as people searching for a Q5 hospital will have more options. But I believe the gains and the extra punch the people in the new region with Q5 can deliver will exceed the gains from a higher wall in Florida and New Jersey. I would say that Q5 hospitals should be placed first in California and New York.
Q: Zoli you are out of your mind!? Those regions already have Q4 hospitals! What benefits could a Q5 hospital bring to them?
Zoli: California has 1429 inhabitants and New York 982. Because even in RL there are the most inhabitants in the USA probably those regions will get the highest amount of new people who will develop even faster. Let’s take California, and assume that 30% of the population is active and fight in wars – that would mean about 430 people. In the battle last battle Americans fought the average damage was 33.8. Let’s assume that the inhabitants of California have an average damage of only 30. If those people would have a Q5 hospital they would deliver in each fight 430 people * 2 fights (because battles are fought on 2 days and the hospital can be used twice) * 30 damage = 25.800 damage per fight. And this extra damage will be used in every battle, even when you help you allies. 172 people should move from California to Florida or New Jersey in order to increase the wall there with 25.800 points and that would be used only in defensive wars if somebody attacked Florida or New Jersey.
Q: But some regions have such a small population.
Zoli: Some people say that a region should not receive a Q5 hospital because has a small population but in fact it has a small population only because it does not have a Q5 hospital. This is a connandrum indeed. Not all regions should have Q5 hospitals but you need more than just 2.
Q: Zoli this makes real sense. We could make Q5 hospitals with a zero cost for the Government, we could increase faster in rank and XP and the US army would be stronger. Wow! But why are you telling me this, you fight for the other side?
Zoli: First of all this is just a game. And I am really sick and tired of the propaganda and BS that some of your leaders are feeding you. I read several articles from people running for a place in Congress, and they just come up with lame excuses for the fact that they move for a couple of days to a state without Q5 hospital just to collect a new medal and 5 GOLD and after that they go back to Florida or New Jersey. They do nothing for the state that elects them. They just procrastinate the decision.
Q: So this is a 22 cath for the USA?
Zoli: From my side yes. If the new Governement will start such a program I will show off and rub it into the face of those who called me PEACEnick and opposed the plan. If the new Governement will ignore this idea than I will lose nothing, just 65% of US citizens who live in regions without Q5 hospitals will lose the opportuniy provided by a Q5 hospital. I am using reverse psyhology right now.
Q: Do other countries have so many Q5 hospitals?
Zoli: Yes! Hungary has 17 regions and 7 Q5 hospitals and the 8th Q5 hosptital will be deployed this week. In a couple of days Hungary will have less regions as it will liberate German regions.
Q: But Hungary is a member of PEACE. Show me another example, what about the allies of the US?
Zoli: Romania has 8 original regions. 6 have Q5 hospital and 2 have Q4 hospital. So as you can see not only PEACE countries place Q5 hospitals to as many regions as they can, but even the allies of the US realized the benefits of such a plan.
Q: Do I have to subscribe now?
Zoli: Vote the article so others can see it. You can subscribe if you want to but sometimes I write only in Hungarian or Romanian and that would be gibberish to you.
Q: What should I do now?
Zoli: Open your eyes. Knowing all the facts you can either take the blue pill, go back to sleep and forget all you read here, or you can take the red pill and start a plan to place more Q5 hospitals in the USA.
There is a start of a debate if the USA needs more Q5 hospitals or not. I will present you in the form of a Q&A some reasons and solutions why more hospitals should be placed in the USA and how this can be made without the government spending a dime. For musical background listen to this
Q: Why are Q5 hospitals so important?
Zoli: Q5 hospitals will allow the population to fight 5 times in battles from home soil. This way they will gain experience points and increase there rank. Currently only Florida and New Jersey have Q5 hospital – 5207 inhabitants in these regions, so about 35% of the population can benefit from this. All the rest lose at least 1 fight/day or 2 fight every battle. Taking into account that there have been 12 training battles up to now those living in a region with Q4 hospital lost 24 fights, that is 48 XP points and around 580 damage on average. People leaving in regions with a Q2 hospital lost 72 fights, that is 144 XP and 1728 damage.
Q: Why is rank and XP so important?
Zoli: For a person in a region with Q2 hospital the 144 XP lost could mean the difference between Level 15 (300XP) and Level 16 (500XP) and that would mean 5 GOLD for the player. So people would level up more quickly and could collect the 5 GOLD for increasing in level faster than now. It would mean more money for the USA citizens and thus for the US economy. Regarding damage a Lieutenant means at least 1500 damage. So probably new players registered in those region are still Sergeants (750-1499) so that is a loss of 20% that citizens does in every fight compared to a person who lives in a region with Q5 hospital.
Q: How much would it cost to make a Q5 company to build hospitals?
Zoli: The cost would be 20 GOLD (starting company) + 20 GOLD (Q2 upgrade) + 50 GOLD (Q3 upgrade) + 100 GOLD (Q4 upgrade) + 200 GOLD (Q5 upgrade) = Total of 390 GOLD
Q: That is a lot. And how about the cost of building a Q5 hospital?
Zoli: You would need 10.000 unit of wood. On the US market the cost o a unit of wood is around 0.52-0.53 USD, so it would cost 5300 USD. Regarding wages the best ones in construction on the US market are 30 USD for skill 7, 23 USD for skill 6 and 17 USD for skill 5. So let’s make our calculations with an average skill 6 and a pay of 23 USD. With an optimal number of 20 employees with wellness over 90, they will build 0.85 out of 2000 units for every level of skill. This means a skill 6 employee will produce daily 5.1 unit of hospital and 20 employees will produce 102 units out of 2000. This means the hospital will be built in 20 days, and the total wages will be of 23 USD * 20 workers *20 days = 9200 USD. Deducting the income tax which is the revenue of the state the manufacturing cost is 7360 USD.
So the total cost of building the Q5 hospital is 12660 USD (5300 USD the raw materials and 7360 USD the wages), or around 253 GOLD.
Q: But if a private person makes the hospital the price would have to be well over 253 GOLD in order to cover his initial investment and make some profit?
Zoli: True. I do not advise anybody to make a Q5 hospital company. The state should do this. For them a Q5 hospital company would be a limited but almost endless sack of GOLD. The Government should make the company. Here is a plan how they should do it.
1. The start up cost: -390 GOLD
2. Building the first hospital: -12660 USD
3. Selling the hospital to a foreign nation: +300 GOLD income
4. Building the second hospital: -12660 USD
5. Selling the second hospital to a foreign nation: +300 GOLD income
At this point the second hospital would already bring tons of profit for the state.
Q: But that is not true! The initial investment and the cost of building the first 2 hospitals is still bigger than the revenue generated by the sale of the hospitals. And who do you think will buy those hospitals?
Zoli: There are so many new countries popping up on the map. Each has 1000 GOLD and they would gladly spend 300 GOLD on buying a hospital in order to help develop their new players.
And you forget that the state has a fantastic ability – it can issue money at a very good exchange rate 1 GOLD = 200 USD. This means that after selling the first 2 hospitals it will cover the initial 390 GOLD cost and could transform the remaining 210 GOLD in 42.000 USD so it will cover not only the cost of the 2 hospitals but it will cover the construction cost of a third hospital.
In fact from this point on for every hospital this company is going to sell abroad it will be able to build 3 Q5 hospitals it can place in the USA.
Q: Zoli, this is great news. But people will not move to Florida and New Jersey then and the military leaders tell us that is very important.
Zoli: After placing a few new Q5 hospitals the number of inhabitants in Florida and New Jersey will grow slower as people searching for a Q5 hospital will have more options. But I believe the gains and the extra punch the people in the new region with Q5 can deliver will exceed the gains from a higher wall in Florida and New Jersey. I would say that Q5 hospitals should be placed first in California and New York.
Q: Zoli you are out of your mind!? Those regions already have Q4 hospitals! What benefits could a Q5 hospital bring to them?
Zoli: California has 1429 inhabitants and New York 982. Because even in RL there are the most inhabitants in the USA probably those regions will get the highest amount of new people who will develop even faster. Let’s take California, and assume that 30% of the population is active and fight in wars – that would mean about 430 people. In the battle last battle Americans fought the average damage was 33.8. Let’s assume that the inhabitants of California have an average damage of only 30. If those people would have a Q5 hospital they would deliver in each fight 430 people * 2 fights (because battles are fought on 2 days and the hospital can be used twice) * 30 damage = 25.800 damage per fight. And this extra damage will be used in every battle, even when you help you allies. 172 people should move from California to Florida or New Jersey in order to increase the wall there with 25.800 points and that would be used only in defensive wars if somebody attacked Florida or New Jersey.
Q: But some regions have such a small population.
Zoli: Some people say that a region should not receive a Q5 hospital because has a small population but in fact it has a small population only because it does not have a Q5 hospital. This is a connandrum indeed. Not all regions should have Q5 hospitals but you need more than just 2.
Q: Zoli this makes real sense. We could make Q5 hospitals with a zero cost for the Government, we could increase faster in rank and XP and the US army would be stronger. Wow! But why are you telling me this, you fight for the other side?
Zoli: First of all this is just a game. And I am really sick and tired of the propaganda and BS that some of your leaders are feeding you. I read several articles from people running for a place in Congress, and they just come up with lame excuses for the fact that they move for a couple of days to a state without Q5 hospital just to collect a new medal and 5 GOLD and after that they go back to Florida or New Jersey. They do nothing for the state that elects them. They just procrastinate the decision.
Q: So this is a 22 cath for the USA?
Zoli: From my side yes. If the new Governement will start such a program I will show off and rub it into the face of those who called me PEACEnick and opposed the plan. If the new Governement will ignore this idea than I will lose nothing, just 65% of US citizens who live in regions without Q5 hospitals will lose the opportuniy provided by a Q5 hospital. I am using reverse psyhology right now.
Q: Do other countries have so many Q5 hospitals?
Zoli: Yes! Hungary has 17 regions and 7 Q5 hospitals and the 8th Q5 hosptital will be deployed this week. In a couple of days Hungary will have less regions as it will liberate German regions.
Q: But Hungary is a member of PEACE. Show me another example, what about the allies of the US?
Zoli: Romania has 8 original regions. 6 have Q5 hospital and 2 have Q4 hospital. So as you can see not only PEACE countries place Q5 hospitals to as many regions as they can, but even the allies of the US realized the benefits of such a plan.
Q: Do I have to subscribe now?
Zoli: Vote the article so others can see it. You can subscribe if you want to but sometimes I write only in Hungarian or Romanian and that would be gibberish to you.
Q: What should I do now?
Zoli: Open your eyes. Knowing all the facts you can either take the blue pill, go back to sleep and forget all you read here, or you can take the red pill and start a plan to place more Q5 hospitals in the USA.
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wake up and smell the coffee my dears...
PEACE propaganda! The more USA spends on hospitals the less money there is for the government's pet military units to tank in support of the allies' conquests. Attack is the best defense, USA should be all over the map!
"But why are you telling me this, you fight for the other side"
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I think New York would be a waste
@Ardez - A Q5 hospital in New York would increase their damage in a battle by 17.000 points. Every battle +17.000. I do not think that would be a waste.
Interesting....
PEACE propaganda
@ kfitzy: Did you even read the article?
Vote!
I still can't believe so many eAmericans can not do some calculations.
How's the weather in Hungary, Zoli?
Bill900 - dunno. I live in Romania.
Don't listen what Zoli's say, it's PEACE propaganda ..... lol
OR, instead of the government spending thousands of gold on q5 hospitals, you personally could spend like 12 USD To move to florida or new jersey. As a matter of fact, contact me, and I will send you a ticket to move there.
Zoli: q5 hospitals are mostly useless once you have a certain amount, because the cost just is not worth the amount of people who get the advantage.
@Cesog fillireb - Please read the article again. A governement operated Q5 hospital company is self sustained. For every Q5 hospital sold to another country the Governement can build and place 3 (three) Q5 hospitals in the USA and even make some profit.
Zoli, there's a reason you're called a PEACE troll, because it's true.
Zoli, America is flattered that you care so much, really. Thanks!
So you would have us spend our money on Hospitals. Gee, I wonder why? Perhaps tying up our funds would allow (peace) to march wherever it pleases? WHY DONT (peace) COUNTRIES HAVE A Q5 IN EVERYONE OF THEIR REGIONS?
AMERICANS DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN'S BS.
Let's build does hospitals!
It's a "just-in-case-we-need-it-it's-their" kinda thing!
Joe DaSmoe - look around.
Hungary currently has 17 regions, actually there will be less as German regions will be liberated and the country has 7 Q5 hospitals and will deploy the 8th Q5 hospital this week.
Romania has 13 regions and has 6 Q5 hospitals and 2 Q4 hospitals, so all originally Romanian regions have at least a Q4 hospital.
When you have 3400 GOLD in the Congressional Budgeting Office and Fort Knox Federal Reserve has 722 GOLD it does not seem alot to me to spend 390 GOLD on a Q5 hospital company, an investment which will make profit in 40 days.
Zoli: pls delete your article! We need a weak USA without q5 hospitals.
Zoli ..are u starting to be afraid of the eMericans and especially their money .
You ..and the Peace guys seem very eager to teach them how to spend their money .
Why is that ?
PEACE PROPAGANDA
@Zoli...you should try looking for some other channels of feeding this information to the American public. I'm afraid you are too well known by everybody not to trigger 90% negative reactions to your articles. I know you can come up with useful stuff too (i.e. the economic advices you gave the new eRomanian government) bit what you are now trying to do now is pretty obvious.
You won't get to strike fear into the reader's minds, America is pretty safe now out of harm's way, you will just convince them you want something else.
Mihu Copilu: Maybe that is the trick. Zoli tells the good way and the US does not follow it. Perfect hit on the enemy.
@Notinlist
Lol, I don't think he is that devious...he must have spent an awful lot of time with all those figures
nice article Zoli. it's just a shame the eAmericans are blind.
Blue pill isn't for going to sleep, it's for going to bed.
LOL - Titu Maiorescu o/o
lol lol zoli
thanks for the advice
Zoli - What about population dispersion? Doesn't building additional Q5's reduce the impact of having a couple of really big walls for defensive purposes? Would you have the US reduce those walls in FL and NJ?
@Bastion The effect will be distributed in time. The wall will not decrese there it will only increase slower. Currently only 35% of the population takes advantage of the Q5 hospital. This will not change in time so you are sacrificing 65% of the population. If you want to conpensate for the slower increase of population in Florida and NJ just move your organization there. 1000 orgs will be enough
Zoli may or may not be a "PEACE Propagandist", and honestly I could care less. PEACE isn't as endlessly bad as people think they are. They are presently our enemies, and for that reason we don't get along. But regardless, the plan that he has laid out here is both efficient and well planned, and in my own opinion, should be adopted by the eUS.
BASTION The risk of TOs will also dimish. Currently there are states which send a representative to Congress with 6 votes. This would not happen with a better healh care system.
Although it would be nice, we don't need Q5 hospitals in every state. Q4 is good enough for most states. And besides, some states don't even have a hospital!
Oh, and your Hungary/Romania doesn't really work. If Hungary or Romania had 51 regions to put Q5 hospitals, I don't think they would have one in every region, or even half!
U.S. Naval War Collage - True and false. It is true that Hungary would not place 51 Q5 hospitals but look at shear numbers. Hungary has 8 Q5 hospitals, Romania has 6 Q5 hospitals while the USA has 2 Q5 hospitals.
In a year you could place around 15 Q5 hospitals which would suffice, but you have to start sooner or later.
I think we should have more Q5 hospitals in the U.S. as well. More hospitals means our population can spread out and make better use of all our resources.
Did you notice how it was a Q & Zoli instead of a Q & A?
Good to see that PEACE is taking care of US healthcare before the invasion
Zoli is like Obama
It is better to form a Q5 hospital company and just sell them overseas. We should VERY SLOWLY add Q5 hospitals to the states in a bid to develop the community at a state level (leading to more coherent politics and a stronger community) but the priority at this point needs to be liberating the nations dominated by unfriendly powers, securing additional resources and goods for the United States via foreign trade, and selling Q5 hospitals to these liberated nations to assist in protecting them against future acts of aggression.
To support these ideas, join the Federalist Party and vote for Federalists and their affiliates on June 25!
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/federalist-party-2263/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/federa[..]63/1</a>
-The Federalist Party has not endorsed these views.
In direct response to the idea of building more Q5 hospitals stateside though, it seems that much of that money would be better spent flying troops into Q5 regions in the event of a war. It makes more sense for Hungary and Romania to build more hospitals as their history and their geography have made them (in the past at least) more susceptible to invasions and consequently losing their hospitals. Diversification.
hes right guys, we could use at least a couple more in our more populated areas.. and the savings on thousands of moving tickets in the long run would be nice. give me the money, ill do it.
Q5 for California!
Only because Zoli makes me smile, I shall vote.
Zoli doesn't care about the health of Americans, so we must ask ourselves... why exactly is he spending all this time tell us this... what is his motive?
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Proposed by Masila, 8 hours ago
Do you agree that Indonesia should buy a hospital of quality 5 from Sniper Luxury Hospital company at the price of 1.00 IDR for Sumatra?~
Your math and this math don't agree...unless I'm dumb and didn't realize something.
"OR, instead of the government spending thousands of gold on q5 hospitals, you personally could spend like 12 USD To move to florida or new jersey"
QFT
I cannot understand why even a single American would have the slightest inclination to take advice from a devoted ENEMY of the eUSA like Zoli!
We already have 2 in reserve, to be used for strategic placement, we do not need anymore than that.
Zoli,
You seem to forget, or do you?, that our president recently spent more than what you just listed as surplus in ONE battle.
You want our money tied up in a venture that will never pan out.
You do write a fairly convincing article, but unfortunately for you, not convincing enough.
Zoli, szerinted érdekli őket? Kár fáradoznod. Mazochista-e vagy?
The area of Florida and New Jersey have Q5 hospitals in their regions for strategic purposes. If you are as smart as you say you are you should be able to figure them out. If someone honestly cares so much about Q5 hospitals do you know what they should do? Pay 11-12 USD and get a moving ticket and move to NJ or Florida. And Zoli. We are extremely flattered that you care so much about the eUS. I know what you are doing. Trying to get less educated eMEricans to turn on hte goverment. Thus taking away our new recruits and hurting our military. Then that places more political pressure on scrab and possibly get him impeached. Scrab is a great leader. Why do you think PEACE hates him so much. Because he is a good leader who doesnt like pEACE. Also. I find it an honor to have Zoli writing so many articles about the eUS. You know why? Because it means we have pissed off PEACE in some way. Zoli is nothing but a Glados wannabe. Thats all he is. Glados was a great propogandist (think i spelled that right) and Zoli wishes to be as good as him. Anyways. eMEricans. Don't listen to Zoli. If we all just igonore him he will go way sooner or later.
One cannot fight until they are level 6, by the time a player reaches level 6, they have made about twice as much money as is necessary to move to Florida or New Jersey, after the price of food has been taken out.
If a player really wants a Q5 hospital they can simply move, it isn't that expensive since there is nothing else other than Q1 food that must be bought between levels 1-6.
We already have two Q5 hospitals located in perhaps the most heavily defended regions of the eUSA. In the unlikely event that either New Jersey or Florida is invaded there is a back up plan to increase our hospital options.
In the meantime I'd like to see the gold spent on liberating more regions from "PEACE" imperialist oppression.
I dunno about Zoli's alliance or him being a troll or whatever, however, I have to agree with the article. America should be concerned about home first. Q5 hospitals in sevaral more populated states would benefit us greatly, I think.
This article is crap! Pure PEACE propaganda. GOVERNMENT, DON'T YOU DARE READ IT.
lol. just kidding.
Seriously though, the people saying you are, are either trolls for PEACE themselves, trolls in general, or complete retards.
I do believe we need more Q5, if anything Q4, hospitals all around.
Isn't PEACE planning to target our Q5 hospitals?
Zoli: Interesting article. I think we need to add Q5 hospitals to other places before CA and NY, but we probably should make more Q5 hospitals.
Be nice if the American leadership would look a bit more seriously at the idea of improving American hospital coverage. I mean, there's no good reason for there to be so few high-quality hospital in this country. If anything, it's a weakness that could conceivably be exploited.
Besides, it's ludicrous that fully half of the states either have no hospital at all or only have a Q1 hospital. 60% have a Q2 or below. There's no good reason for one of the strongest and richest countries to have so many states where it's virtually impossible to fight in a war (or to get any meaningful experience from doing so). I personally believe that there should be no less than Q3 hospitals in every state.
While that's not perfect, it would at least allow people to live where they want to and still be able to fight meaningfully in wars. It wouldn't stop people from living in Florida and New Jersey, but it would make it much more feasible for people who only moved to those two states in order to take advantage of the high-class hospitals there.
hmmm I kind of don't agree because all of our citizens who are active and WORTH HAVING should be in florida or NJ. but....we should have more Q5 hospitals I suppose or else we should close our wars with france and portugal
For those who missed out the end of the battle for Vojvodina the battle orders for all the Hungarians where to fight down to 50 wellness and tomorrow after the hospital we will all get to above 50 with the Q5 hospitals. More than 10K people live in a region with Q5 hospital. That extra fight given by a Q5 hospital compared to a Q4 hospital gave us at least 200.000 in this battle. This is why we won and Croatia has lost. The wall size in Florida and New Jersey matters only is somebody is foul enough to attack you, but in helping your allies a few more Q5 would give you the edge you lack now.
I think we should go for the Q5s ....as when i first started playing everyone went MOVE TO FLORIDA! and i did that...but with only 35% that heard that "move to florida or new jersey thing"....the gov. should do something about it and the best thing to do is to build these Q5 hospitals!
Zoli,
Thanks for explaining why the US shouldn't build any more H5. I've said it for a while, and having Zoli come out against is about the best confirmation I could hope for. Thanks.
-One Eye
Zoli why dont you just leave the eUSA media alone. Nobody but a few noobs is stupid enough to believe anything that comes out of your mouth. Leave eAmerica alone, we are sick of you being here.
gooood! please disregard zoli! dont place any hospitlas anywhere!
printing money would only increase inflation, also dont place hospitals to popular areas so that newly registered people wont turn up with a wasteful q5. also, you should tank your FMs more in battle so that your population stays as weak as it is now, and f*** the overabundance of wood in your country, no one needs a market for that its just a stupid resource in this game. There are tons of reasons why you should stay the friggin weak bloated country you are, so that when we get bored we can finally defile your homeland without any resistance at all. peace out homies
A couple months ago, I came up with a plan to raise money for a Q5 hospital in Rhode Island (before war games started there).
While I see some military advantage for having Q5 hospitals in high population regions, I'm not convinced they would be valuable enough for the government to spend its gold on. Where I do think we could use Q5 hospitals is several low population regions that are currently extremely susceptible to PTO.
Since we probably can't build our Q5 hospital in Rhode Island due to war games, we are considering building it in another low population region without using any government money at all. If you're interested in how we are raising money, go here:
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/project-update-183013/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/pr[..]013/1</a>
Voted. This might be PEACE propaganda. But if you think about it. Florida and NJ have the biggest population, why? They have the hospitals. I personally think it would be good to have the population spread all over the states. Even our own president lives in NJ. And not in DC, which would of been apropriate (typos )
one question how many peace countries are making a profit selling q5 hospitals? why give us the idea? why don't you do it yourself?
couger - we are doing it This was used by many of your allies too, so it is nothing new I am telling here.
Troll
The irony here is that people are ignoring the good points raised here - because Zoli is the one who raised them.
I personally think that anyone who can say with a straight face that the eUSA needs no more hospitals is probably even more out of it than they claim Zoli is.
I moved out of Nebraska SOLELY because there wasn't a hospital worth speaking of there. And you know how many votes are usually cast in elections there? 6. And it's hardly alone in that respect. That's ASKING for trouble, for reasons which should be patently obvious to anyone with more than two working brain cells to rub together.
do you think we are stupid zoli? I think not
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-q5-hospitals-we-can-see-fine-thanks--836744/1/20#comments" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-q5-[..]ents</a>
THIS one is better,
The fact that eUS Citizens are disregarding these points because someone from PEACE has made them is pathetic. Think about what he is saying, whether he is an enemy or not, he raises good points. If PEACE or anyone else for that matter could manage to take NJ and Florida(regardless of how hard that would be) the eUS would fall quickly after. The backup plan would help but two more hospitals wouldn't do us much good in the middle of the mass media confusion caused by the invasion. We need hospitals in interior states, even two or three would work because of how many states an enemy would have to go through to get to them.
I understand that the two we have are strategically placed and Zoli is one of the least trusted in eUS, but if anything we can sell these hospitals to other nations. It won't hurt us except for the first month or so and it won't be a massive setback. Even less if we don't use gov't funds for it.
OMFG Zoli you need to shut up, because I'm tired of the same S*it different day routine. Take your PEACE q5 hospital shtick elsewhere.
eMericans listen up. PEACE attacks our allies, and Zoli is a eGarian posing as a friend. He wants us to spend our money on q5 hospitals, and spread our population out. PEACE can attack the US at any moment, but hesitates due to the high cost to start the war. That cost based on how many people are living in that territory/state. Less people, less cost for them. Should we then build hospitals with no Defenses, so that they can be destroyed easily?? IF PEOPLE WANT TO FIGHT, THEY MOVE TO FL OR NJ. Ask yourself, what's so important about staying in X state? That 65% he speaks of is mostly dead or inactive citizens. Should we spend our gold on building a q5 hospital for 70 people that are below 40 wellness, no, let's fund our military and allow them to fight for our country.
Zoli you're a farce go away, and don't bring this kool-aid to a grown man's party.
why are hungarians telling americans how to run america?
I think it's quite touching that Zoli, a prominent citizen of a PEACE country with which we are at war, is so concerned for our safety!
(Jon Barack Bluejacket gives Zoli a big hug!)
I think it would be a lovely gesture of your concern for us if you were to purchase a Q5 hospital for us, and place it in any United State of your choosing.
Thanks in advance for your generous donation!
Your friend,
Jon Barack Bluejacket
^^ JBB, that was funny >D
Hahah Jon.
I think we need just a few more Q5 hospitals, 2 for 51 regions is really not that great in case something goes wrong.
Whats the use for more hospitals when we already have 2??? Its just a waste of gold.
With all those calculations I will give you my own set of calculations. Q5 hospitals are in Florida and New jersey. If you are somewhere else you should buy a moving ticket for 12 to 15 USD and move to those two states. We don't need to spend 390 Gold Just 12- 15 USD. Any more than my calculations are pointless.
How nice. Our Hungarian friends care so much about us they want to run our country for us. They send their best propagandist to type out propaganda, then send their propaganda bots to vote it up -- just for us. And Zoli, with his long and impeccable track record of honesty! The eWorld is lucky to have such a man of character in it.
Umm... you people squealing "ZOMG PEACE IZ TRIEING TO ZPRED TEH P0PU1AT10NZZZ!!!!11111" realize that it's easier as is for PEACE to invade Delaware and then eat the insides of the eUS up, right? NJ and FL are strategic as border regions of the US to France and Portugal (two of the three countries a PEACE invasion would most likely occur from), but within themselves there isn't a whole lot to protect there, and if there is a region with a Q1 or no hospital, PEACE will certainly invade from that one. While the US currently has too many MPPs for an occupation to be worth the gargantuan investment required to complete it (which would probably top out somewhere over 10,000 gold), it would be preferable to continue slowly fortifying your borders with France and Portugal with Q5s, or even Alaska over in Russia. If wargames were to ever stop for a long enough period for many of the MPPs to die off, the US would be left quite vulnerable as is. However, I think the potential lost by newbies moving to regions without Q5 hospitals is negligible.
Oh, and those of you who wish to insult Zoli, be very careful. Part of their game is to bait you into insulting them, then run to the admins to get you banned. It's just how they play the game, and the admins, in their supreme wisdom, seldom fail to reward such behavior.
low hospital lvl is why i went to florida
"Umm... you people squealing "ZOMG PEACE IZ TRIEING TO ZPRED TEH P0PU1AT10NZZZ!!!!11111"
I feel lucky that a big, strong, smart man like yourself is around to console us "squealers." But the fact is, "PEACE" isn't trying to spread the population, but spread dissent with pointless debate. Building more hospitals has been hashed out, and we decided not to do it, after refuting all the points that Jolly Zoli made in his propagandapost.
But, again, I do feel reassured knowing that big, strong, smart men like you are around to tell us the real score, and protect us "squealers" from our own foolishness.
vote!
votat. new york-ul are spital de q3...
of course!
I know Zoli is a PEACE propagandist and all. But I have to agree with him on this one. CA, NY and maybe even TX could use Q5 hospitals. Also, I think we'd need a hospital to fall back on in case something happens, you know in the middle of the country like in KS or NE.
PEACE propaganda!
FWIW: There are existing organizations who are making hospitals at all levels.
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/allegheny-focuses-on-hospitals-814169/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/alle[..]/1/20</a>
I agree that the U.S needs more Q5 hospitals, and i dont see anything negative in the population moving forward and getting experience and higher military ranks.
Hmm, if this is peace propaganda, maybe someone should highlight it, copy it, then paste it into their newspaper, because it wouldn't be peace propaganda then.
Guys you act like its cold war again!
Look, Zoli has a point there, USA needs a few more Q5 hospitals around.
No, no we don't.
Might want to do some research why we only have two Q5 Hospitals in the states they are in before reading too heavily from folks overseas.
Vive PEACE
Brin, Joseph Straatmann, Jaime Hasten, Martin Warmonger and a few I didn't mention: I do hope our leaders will be like them in the future.
They're not like the most of the robot-citizens we have here
And there's Shino! Our very own Hungarian-American Congressman!