[Prime Minister/HEB] Statement to Pakistan
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This is in regards to the recent AS law initiated by Pakistan
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Pakistan/145817
and the following articles.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2415689/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2415692/1/20
As well as the following topic set by their CP in their IRC channel:
(21:58:41 (UTC-4:00)) The topic for #pakistan is: Prepare 4 War: http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Pakistan/145817 | In solidarity with GAZA - http://prntscr.com/41gdt3
(21:58:41 (UTC-4:00)) Topic for #pakistan set by Ariovistus!~IceChat7@Rizon-613FED14.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 21:16:03 on 7/12/2014
Israel, you can expect communications about our response plan in the coming hours as the cabinet deliberates the matter.
Dear Pakistan,
I am writing this brief message not only as eIsrael's Prime Minister, but also as a gamer and an American Jew in the real world. This is a personal/official reaction to the content noted above.
I understand that the real-life Israeli-Palestinian situation, or "status quo" is quite a contentious matter. I could argue all day about why Israel's actions are justified and why it is clear that they have only been carried out for purposes of self-defense. However, I am not going to right now, as that is not the point of this letter.
What I am going to say right now however is that many of us come to this game and other virtual worlds to find an outlet away from our everyday lives. Yes, eRepublik may have a connection to reality due to the existence of countries based on those in real life, but at the end of the day, this isn't the real world. We come here to enjoy ourselves and have a good time, not to act out real life politics. With said politics come some strong emotions, and those in turn bring arguments, flaming, and contention that makes our gameplay less enjoyable.
So, Ariovistus, I really don't mind an airstrike, but I hope you are at least willing to fully rescind any statements about doing it due to the recent events of Operation Protective Edge. As you have no congress and the AS will continue no matter what, in any case, Iron Dome (our military and that of our allies) will be prepared to intercept!
Sincerely,
Prime Minister of eIsrael
כתבתי את זה בגלל שנשיא פקיסטן יזם התקפת אווירית
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Pakistan/145817
ואחרי שראיתי את הכתבות האלה
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2415689/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2415692/1/20
וגם מכיוון שראיתי את הנושא הזה בערוץ מירק של פקיסטן.
(21:58:41 (UTC-4:00)) The topic for #pakistan is: Prepare 4 War: http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Pakistan/145817 | In solidarity with GAZA - http://prntscr.com/41gdt3
(21:58:41 (UTC-4:00)) Topic for #pakistan set by Ariovistus!~IceChat7@Rizon-613FED14.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 21:16:03 on 7/12/2014
ישראלים, אתם יכולים לצפות יותר כתבות בעתיד על זה ואיך נגיב אחרי שהקבינט שוחח יותר על המצב.
שלום פקיסטן,
אני כותבת את ההודעה הזו לא רק כמו ראשת הממשלה של ישראל, אבל גם כמו שחקנית ויהודייה אמריקנית באמתי. זאת תגובה רשמית\אישית על מה נכתב מעל.
אני מבינה שמצב ישראלי-פלסטיני, או ה-"סטטוס קוו", הוא משהו במחלוקת. אני יכולה לטעון על איך מה ישראל עושה הוא מוצדק ורק עשית לצורך הגנה עצמית, אבל לא אעשה את זה. זהו לא מדוע אני כותבת את המכתב הזה.
אבל, אגיד כאן שרובנו משחקים באירפובליק וגם בעולמות וירטואליות אחרות כי אנחנו רוצים לשחק בכיף, חוץ מאמתי. כן, אולי יש לאירפובליק כמה דמיון לאמתי כמו איך aיש מדינות אמיתיות במשחק, אבל בסוף היום, זהו לא אמתי. אנחנו מתקשרים למשחק כדי לבלות זמן במשחק, לא לטעון על פוליטיקה. עם פוליטיקה באות רגשות חזקות, ועם אלה יש לכם טיעונים ושלהוב שמחסל את הכיף במשחק.
אז, אריו-ויסטאס, התקפת האוויר לא בעיה, אבל אני מקווה שאתה יכול לבטל את ההצהרות שלך על איך אתה עושה את זה בגלל מבצע צוק איתן. מכיוון שאין לך קונגרס ואז תהיה התקפת אוויר לא משנה מה, כיפת ברזל (הצבא שלנו והבני הברית שלנו) יהיו מוכנים להיעצר אותכם.
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No offense but a lot of rivalries in the game have come from IRL issues. If you think people's IRL thoughts have no affect on their in-game actions, you've another thing coming.
That doesn't make it right. To bring real world biases and issues into the game world and use them as a cause of action is the stupidest of reasons. There are plenty of in game reasons to attack another country or player.
Doesn't make it wrong either. Everyone has his own way of voicing their opinion or concerns. Some people post statuses or tweet about it in social media. Some people take it out here. It's not damaging to anyone's safety or illegal in any way. So why not?
IMO, it shows an inability to distinguish between the game world and reality. If someone feels they must destroy an enation because they hate a real nation, I believe they should seek a counselor and step back from the game.
If ePakistan wants to AS eIsrael and destroy them because they feel it would be in their national interest or for some perceived insult, go for it. That would be a very valid reason. For ePakistan to declare they will destroy eIsrael and others to cheer this on because of the actions of real world Israel is an indication of small, weak, and unstable minds incapable of overcoming hatreds and distinguishing between reality and a game.
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Well said..
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"I could argue all day about why Israel's actions are justified and why it is clear that they have only been carried out for purposes of self-defense."
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What a shame. I hope we will no longer see Israel anymore, at least on the eRepublik.
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We have the divine protection...we are the chosen one 😃 Get over it!
Léon Reno
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Léon: this is a game, not real life. And please, let's keep it like that. There's no place for this kind of hatred here.
Keep bombing hospitals, killing children you murderers.
M. de Ruyter did you ever see my quote from article or are you just another murderer-fan?
Léon Reno - stop building & storing rockets under hospitals... and then will talk... you are so ignorant, i pity you...
Léon Reno - you know noting, you live in your own little world & all the shit you talk are things you here on TV or read on the web... if you have any balls whatsoever, come visit israel and check it out in with your own eyes...I would suggest you also visit Gaza or Syria in & compare life there to the life in israel - but in there lives crazy murderers who kill their own people and strangers on a daily basis ... think for yourself (if you can) who should you support - and in any case a little advice in life - If you don't have anything good to say about someone or something - better to keep quiet and at least look smart.
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Oh, I thought you kill children because of self-defence. It's because there is someone else you can blame now?
stop firing at Israeli children long range rockets from gaza hospitals or mosques and then Israel will not attack gaza hospitals...
In the recent attack every family got notice (vioa phone and other means) before a house was targeted by IDF, but your palls in Hamas ordered them to stay home and become martyrs...
and regarding you caricature, with your logic you probably think that 9/11 hijackers were victims because they died in american plane
To reply to you, Israel is showing restraint in its response. The cartoon you shared is inaccurate. If Israel wants to, it could have wiped out Gaza and West Bank among others in its wars. But Israel did not. It continues to let these Arabs live. Rather, the cartoon should show the opposite. A bunch of missiles are coming from the West Bank side, irregardless of its target, while Israel fires just enough to destroy both the incoming rocket(s) and the launch site. Fortunately, Israel has the wall of the Iron Dome missile defense system which allows the nation to respond in a more peaceful way. Without its missile defense system, there would probably already been an invasion of Gaza, and that would be justified. Remember that Israel has the right to defend itself.
http://anneinpt.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/584c1-differencebetweenisraelandhamas.jpg
If the Palestinians stopped supporting Hamas, if Hamas did not exist to harass Israel...... nothing would happen! In fact, Israel would simply breath a sigh of relief and continue living their lives. Do you realize that in spite of the rocket attacks from Hamas, Israel still sends fresh water, food, electricity, and fuel to Gaza? No, you probably did not realize that. Do you also realize that Gaza is a resource-rich environment and has the potential to become an economic power in the Mediterranean? Yet, the money they generate is used to produce weapons, not infrastructure and business (and then they blame Israel for damaging their limited infrastructure!). You know nothing, Leon Snow.
for Gaza! self defense...nice joke
dozens of long range rockets (over 100 kilometers) are fired each day from gaza into Israel.
if someone shoot at you each day, wouldn't you respond?
even the international "law" says something about the response gotta be equal...but anyway Israel is the marshall placed there by USA to control the region...if u look arround nobody likes sionism and israel expansionism.
israel workers must see that all the religius crap, all those orthodox that dont work and dont send their kids to destroy Palestine are the cancer and also the right wing politicians.
atahey goota build an independent party from all bourgeoisie fractions...
So you say that the only reason that Israel exists in an area called "Judea" for thousands of years is that USA wants to...
interesting but false. The state of Israel was established according to the UN partition plan with approval from major countries in the world including the USSR (that I guess you like...)
In early days Israel was a socialist country with strong ties to USSR, and you calling a group of people "cancer" says more about you than about them
p.s.
The Chinese don't like Tibet. so you would reason that Tibet has no right to exist?
The UN partition...the one that Israel did not honor? Is too much to say that Israel was a "socialist" country...never happend a social revolution there...the only thing Israel expropriate was some palestinian lands.
Peres party was only reformist and know all the basic political guidelines are quite the same for the so called "labor" party or the right wing parties.
Just sayng the truth...lot of isralies think the same, orthodox are parasite that try to take command of the state...no so diferent of what happend in Iran.
USSR during Stalin bureaucratic regime had a "republic" for jew people called Birobidzhan(still exist), dont think that is the solution, the solution will come when arab workers and israel workers finally understand that they need to have the same agenda.
I understand that u are bombarded every single day with chauvinism propaganda so is hard to see the truth
Actually Israel DID honor the UN partition plan and proposed to have a jewish state and an arab state. However the arabs refused and the neighboring countries launched a joined attack against the jews...
It's sad that you make up your mind about Israel without checking facts. Israel was a socialist country because the pilgrims there were socialists. And if a country is created as a socialist then why would you need a revolution? makes no sense to me...
Regarding the "palestinian" lands, please read the UN census of 1946, stating that the majority of the country was empty and belonged to the British crown... but for some reason you claim that arabs own all land including desert and sea. You should also check documentaries from the area during the 1920's where you'll see many writings in Hebrew but not a single arab...
You should also check where the most famous palestinain (yasser arafat) was born and raised- hint: not even close to Israel... but it didn't stop him from claiming that he is palestinian and murder Israelis for "stealing" his land
Israel has a joint jewish/arab political party that follows communist doctrine so you'll probably like them, but too bad that you support terrorists like hamas while calling people from my country as "parasites". Do proper research and then make up your opinion
Do you also believe that Israel did 9/11?
If you have nothingsmart to say, don't say anything...
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Kipat Barzel is on
Sad to read that some people can't let go of rl matters while playing a game. 😛
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Real world issues need to stay in the real world. This is a game world, and people should act on the issues within it. Leave your prejudices and hate outside the game.
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*פקיסטן לא מאימת עלינו בכלל הרמה שלהם זה כמו חמס במציאות חחח אפילו השרים שלהם מתים חחחח
Your Sand is bad!
DIO will show you his power!
Great ahava
big vote
Iron Dome o/
Voted !!!
I did it for teh lulz
And meanwhile all that argue seem to miss the fact that the once's that keep the fighting going are the fundamentalists on both sides. Cause no matter how you turn it, actions of either side tend to be pointless and destructive and only fuel further hate, it has nothing to do with protecting one self or anything. It is stupid hate driven actions. And far as i am concerned anyone that thinks violence from either side can be justified is nothing short of deluded.
Actually, right now is the prefect time to hit Hamas and not hear from it for a long time.
It goes like this: Hamas shoots a rocket sometimes, each rocket Israel responds by shooting into where that rocket came from.
By some time, the situation comes to the point where Hamas shootsfew tens of rockets into the teritorry of Israel. And then, Israel declare on a new operation. And from there, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other terror organnizations start shooting LARGE quantities of rockets into Israel, and the IAF (Israeli Air Force) shoots to places where the terrorists launched the missles from, and shoots on warehouses of rockets, so no one will use them.
The amout of attack Israel do on a basic is something like a... 150-200 attack per day. Meanwhile, from the other side, Terror organizations shoot rockets on Israel sometimes 10-150 rockets each day, but thanks to the IAF hard work, yesterday there were only 80 rockets. In this operation, Hamas and his friend, the Islamic Jihad, showed new skills: the ability to shoot over to Tel-Aviv and beyond that, reaching all the way to Haifa. THAT MEANS, that something like 60-70% of the country are in the range of the rockets. That;'s why there is operations every 2-3 years, but hopefully after the current operation that situation will change, and there will be a longer break from war. Thank you for reading.
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Fosite I heard every damn excuse either side has to offer i heard every accusation either side has to make and i have read up the history of all the shit. My conclusion this whole thing is pointless and is driven by the fundamentalist and hate on both sides.
But sure go ahead support fundamentalism and hate mongering, far as im concerned you are part of the problem not the solution so go play in a minefield or something.
So, since you know what's NOT the solution, do you know what's the solution? Nigotiation? peace talks? Israel has tried everything, but Hamas has only one objective behind everything he does: Harm EVERY Israeli, ANY! Baby, kid, soldier, politic, men, women, elderly, teens, EVERYONE! You cannot nigotiate with terrorists. Besides, i don't see countries like USA, UK or any other country in NATO negotiating with Al-Queda, right? But there's something i wanna say, that's not really related to what i'm saying now, but kinda related.
You're not the only one that's thinking that this operation is pointelss, there are politicians, and people in Israel that think that it's wrong to do this, there was even a protest yesterday against the IDF, calling them "terrorists", which i don't uinderstand at all, but, everyone has the free of speech. I guess.
Knowing something is wrong, and keep doing it is just stupid, and not knowing the correct solution doesn't change the fact the wrong solution is wrong.
For the rest its alot of blablabla which im not gone dignify with a further response. The only part that sounds right of all you wrote is:
"i don't uinderstand"
You're just avoiding that "blablabla" beacuse you don't know what to say about that. And most chances that you don't know, the residents of southern of Israel suffer from those terrorists called Hamas for 14 years! 14! Just imagine what it could lead to, and just talking it is not the solution, if it was, this would have ended WAY LONG before, and ANOTHER THING! We moved everyone from the gaza strip for peace, PEACE! And what did they do? showed us the triple finger and shot rockets on us. Didn't knew that did ya? Next time you talk about a situation you have no clue about, do some research before you post, please.
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Oke lets do this 1 last time:
There are plenty of confirmed reports that Israel has violate cease-fire and at-least broke a cease-fire/truce twice in the last 10 years. So Have tried anything for peace, go bullshit a other. I agree im sure the Palestinians fundamentalists want to kill any Israeli/Jew they can.
Yet here is a other fact, that in the last 4 years not counting recent happenings less than 40 Israelis died against 620+ Palestinians. So sure fundamentalist Palestinians want to kill any Jew they can, yet it is Israel that does the larger part of the killing.
Next point Negotiation.
No one would, except for the UK with IRA, and oh yea wasn't there a uproar in the USA about the fact Obama did just what you claim never ever would happen, right he not only talked but also exchanged prisoners for a USA soldier captured years ago. Turns out also Bush has negotiated and many Presidents before them, the slogan "we do not negotiate with terrorist" is comic book martial, in real life that is precisely what happens.
If even Politicians and people in Israel think what the IDF is doing is complete overkill, you still don't understand cause your a brainwashed sheep that only things the side you already have picked is holy and can not do any wrong, and instead of being open to the possibility you go defensive and will refuse anything that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
So no the Blablabla was cause your response was uninformed bais and stupid, and your second one is no better but like the first again 1 good line
"do some research"
And sure go ahead post more dribble, cause no matter what i tell you in your mind you already convinced yourself you are right and anyone that challenges that notion must there for be wrong.
Happy now wasted 15 minutes of my life to a other twat with internet to lazy and spoiled to use it to educated themselves.
So at the first part of the message, you're saying that in the last few years there are 40 Israeli killed over 1000+ in the palestinian side... The Israeli people that got killed are ISRAELI , and Israel will mostly do anything they can in order to protect it's citizens, and luckely now there aren't any deaths on the Israeli side, thanks for the iron dome.
I know one time Israel was acting after a cease-fire, and that was the second lebanon war (2006) where soldiers went on a last mission, where some 26 soldiers of us died.
UK nigotiating with Iran... Well, Iran is not a terror organization, it's a country,
that's funding terror organizations with training, equipment, and money.
And you're right, the US nigotiated with Al-Queda for getting that soldier, and i don't think it was the first time, i saw some videos talking about that George Bush i believe? That nigotiated with Al-Queda for giving them weapons and other stuff...
Brainwashed? I'm protecting my own country (If you still didn't figured, i'm from Israel) I'm living inside that country my whole life, that are not really long, but iv'e seen, and felt enough situations to feel pride to my country.
My side holy? Well, Israel sometimes do f*ckups here and there, but remember: her target is not the innocent, it's the people who shoot rockets, kidnappers, suicidal bombers, and and people from teror groups triyng to place a suitcase in a bus and kill everyone in there.
So, can you nigotiate with a terrorist? yes, just like Israel did in the past years, when we talk with Hamas using the egyptians about cease-fire, when we got Gil'ad Shalit out from the Gaza Strip, when we got cease-fire with Hizballa. But can you nigotiate with them for peace? I think that's another story to talk about.
And sorry (i guess) that you wasted 15 minutes, but that's not wasting, that's good to talk about stuff like that' so we can see what the other has to say, and see the other point of view.