[President] Asgard is perfect for eNL and eNL is perfect for Asgard!
JeguljaM
Alfons Haschberg - President of Sweden
Dear Canadians, Finns, Dutch, Norwegians and Swedes,
The Netherlands has requested Membership of the Alliance Asgard some time ago. This is something I really supported. The Netherlands isn't looking for an alliance to get liberated. The Netherlands isn't looking for a per see big Alliance, but is looking for solid Allies. A good Ally sees the Netherlands as their equal. In Asgard there are all member countries, where we fought hard for. We maybe are no big country, but we are a very commited country. We want to work hard for a real brotherhood!
In other words, Asgard is the perfect Alliance for the Netherlands and the Netherlands is a perfect match for Asgard!
Therefore the Netherlands was very disappointed when the request was declined, because of the outcome of the vote in Sweden. Much isn't clear on this in the Netherlands, as the reasons were not shared at that time.
Some time ago, I was contacted by the Swedish President to see if we could fix the relations between our two countries. Of course I agreed on that. We had multiple talks since then and we fought in eachother battles since then. We have made good progress there, but we cannot decline there are groups of people in both our countries who still have doubts. The Swedish President Alfons Haschberg already shared his opinion on the situation in the Swedish media: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-president-sweden-netherlands-statement-2295502/1/20
I am not doubting on Asgard. I think Asgard is a very good match for the Netherlands and vice versa.
Norway has requested Sweden to organise a new vote on the Netherlands, because they don't believe the Swedish vote is correct on what Sweden thinks on the Netherlands.
The Netherlands will have a close look on that and I hope for a positive outcome! Don't look back that much, but let us focus on the future!
Hail Canada
Hail Finland
Hail the Netherlands
Hail Norway
Hail Sweden
Hail Asgard
With best regards,
ElGorro
President of the eNetherlands
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Comments
Hail Sweden!
Hail Asgard!
Hail Netherlands!
HAIL CANADA
HAIL ASGARD
HAIL NETHERLANDS \O/
I still don't see why Netherlands would be good in Asgard, and still don't sees valid and good reasons for this. Try to convince me in the commentaries please....
Would you be so kind to explain why they would not fit in Asgard?
1. We (eSweden) have never before been close allies, atleast I dont know anything about their country or community or military
2. They are perma-wiped
3. They are a really small country
4. I doubt their capability to make a difference in Asgards appearence of winning battles and such.
Seems the same argument you use Plams is the same about our brothers Norway so they are not welcome to then???
Every relationship begins somewhere. Agreed with Izzeee, alliances are not only about damage and we are not so much bigger ourselves.
"Respect your allies or die alone"
Izzeee, Norway was one of the creators of the alliance. And we are close neighbours and friends both IRL and ingame
Yeah and Poland was our closest friend before too.....and Spain and....doesnt it opend for new friends?
If Sweden votes again, at least Finland needs a new vote too.
Why was this published in Norwegian and Swedish media?
If it can be republished in Finland and Canada it would be great. It's a message to all Asgard countries. The more that read it the better.
If Sweden votes again, then ALL other countries needs a yes. Ofc.
The Norwegian re-vote in progress! 😃
48H V & D to Sponsor the Dutch Asgard membership.
http://tinyurl.com/Sponsor-NL-vote
What does eNetherlands want in return for giving Asgard some extra dmg?
No puppethood, local close alliance with brothers to rely on I guess?
I find that argument a bit weak. If we let them maybe in a few months they want something in return for helping us, maybe to free them from Poland.
Everybody want's something. They don't have to join Asgard to do those things. What do they really want?
If something seems to good to be true, it usually ain't.
You guess, so you really dont know?
Well, no. Everybody knows we cant free them from poland. But resistance can always be made. Just like resistance against Spain, Lithuania, Latvia, Slovakia, Estonia and Belarus. I would love to fight Poland any day of the week, like a hobby.
Är något otroligt så är det oftast o-troligt 😉 men varför skulle det va otroligt?
Its not really an argument, its what they want.
Your arguments is the most weakest. Come on. If they only want damage against Poland they would have joined a stronger alliance, why wait months if they only using us? Lol.. You have no true argument. You are just like "how about no?" Instead of explaining why.
In my opinion "local close alliance with brothers to rely on" they need to join Asgard to recieve this.
Your negative attitutude against a small contry is really depressing ofcourse they want some chance of getting their contry back as everyone else. But if you are afraid of Loland why do we then still fight against them in all ways we can. We are also under their boots so why kick on somone elese that is lying down instead of getting more small contries that want to fight back. Together we are strong divided we fall...
Plams: I wrote "i guess" because it didnt seemed that Enenra have been reading The article.
I'm negative to Netherlands getting into Asgard because they haven't said anything concrete about what they want.
When I go to a job interview they always ask me: ''Why do u want to work here''. You should maybe ask them the same question and see if u can get a resonable explanation.
What they want isnt so hard to figure out, its the same as everyone else in Asgard tight brotherhood and a tough underdog attitude and a hope to be free do they need any more reasons???
From this article "The Netherlands isn't looking for a per see big Alliance, but is looking for solid Allies."
"Well, no. Everybody knows we cant free them from poland. But resistance can always be made. Just like resistance against Spain, Lithuania, Latvia, Slovakia, Estonia and Belarus. I would love to fight Poland any day of the week, like a hobby."
So you want more drains for our damage, when every single Asgard member is already either fully or almost fully wiped?
Please tell me why on earth and what the ef.
"So you want more drains for our damage, when every single Asgard member is already either fully or almost fully wiped?
Please tell me why on earth and what the ef."
Oh we should talk damage now. With NL our damage gets bigger. And if you insist we Can focus on one enemy at the time 🙂 the more the merrier
I am merely stating, that there is no valid reason to open any ore drains for us when we already are being completely wiped. No reason, no point. And what comes to "damage issue", Netherlands would drain more than they would give.
Nah. They wouldnt drain since they dont request help. We would only get more damage. Brotherhood > damagehood.
You understand, our orders go to firstly prio 1. And secondly prio 2. If NL battle is not even on The prio list how can we get drained.
I'll just quote you, you just have said you want to fight against Poland -> pushing damage there. During same gasp you also say we can't liberate Netherlands. So why on earth to fight there? Why on earth to open the RW's? Why do you want drains?
@Julius how can NL drain more damage than they give we have same enemies? The only thing we get is more damage we can point in the direction that is prio for the ally.
If we have no other important Asgard battle then ofc we Can open fire against poland. It would help Franck Croatia etc.
Fun! eNL has a nice and community, but it's sealed of international erep happenings by not being on the map. So it's to make the game more alive again.
awesome
HAIL NORWAY
HAIL ASGARD
HAIL NETHERLANDS \O/
I cant find any good reason not to get Netherland into Asgard! If someone have a good reason why they should not join please speak up because I dont understand it. We already have all big countries against us so why not get Netherland with us so we can be stronger than be divided?-Specially when they seems comitted to join us.
I can find some.
1. They are a country which is in a shitty situation and will remain in a shitty situation for the foreseeable future.
2. We have no special relations with them and never really had as far as I know.
3. They don't need us and we certainly don't need them.
4. They would only be a burden.
5. Letting them in to Asgard ensures that we will always be on the opposite side of Poland which is not a good. How we feel about Poland today doesn't matter as that could change any day. One must think long term.
6. We will never, ever be able to help them which means that in time they will get tired of permawipe and most likely leave the alliance in favour of another. Just look at Canada, they were 2 votes out of 100+ from leaving Asgard 2 months ago. If CoT hadn't been doing so poorly at the time of the vote I can guarantee you that Canada would not be an Asgard members today but a CoT member assuming they would've been accepted.
7. We don't have to be allies to be friendly.
8. A strong brotherhood is built within a small group, not a big one.
9. A big group equals many interests which will eventually break down the group. Before it has broken it down though it will have made sure to complicate things even further.
10. They are strategically in a bad position on the map.
And before you use the Norway argument let me till you this. Norway was part of the founding of Asgard and both Finland and Sweden has had great relations with them for a long time. NL wasn't and hasn't. Norway also shares a border with both Swe and Fin which is beneficial in a strategical point of view.
Now let me ask you, give me any good reason to why we should invite them.
If we are to follow your opinion only then we would be in a shitty place forever. Sometimes we need to think outside the box rather than make our pride a priority. You have 1 vote in this matter not all.
Friends are not burdens kain.
Poland eternal enemy because of this? Its not true; deals, region swaps and NAPs happens all The time.
About Canada; alliances changes all The time, we should change too if we dont agree with rest of Asgard and only care about Swedens benefits. Selfishness, pity.
NL doesnt make The group much bigger, its not like we had Balkan and south america to Asgard.
Norway suggested that it would be possible to AS NL to norway, even if it only would be 1 region, its still a really nice gesture. Real brother there. Ofc we need balance in europe again.
I can confirm this! 🙂
AHSUAHSUAHSAUSHAU u swedes still trying to get them Lolandians on ur good side? LOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLO, I AM LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOING 2 years and stil ltrying to be friends with them ; 3 how cute
My long answer didnt got thru... so here is my short one:
NL are well aware about their situation and need motivation and somewhere to focus their fire so why not in Asgard? Getting new friends is never bad and I dont see why we should behave like we are someone better? We need their damage more than they need friends because they know their situation and if we didnt need more damage why are we so fu..ing wiped all the time? Cant see why they would be a burden because they are owned by Poland- its like not getting friend with the new boy in school because of the bully who dont like him. I dont want our fear of Poland who earlier was soooo good friend with us before to dictate who we should ally with. And Poland for sure dont need all NL regions anyway so treaties can be made in future. Making allies to be friendly is not the same as having the nose in the air and behaving like Poland did to us earlier either. They used us and behaved like they are better than us and I sadly see the same in you answer.
Strong brotherhood comes when your friends are with you in hard times and helps you in need. Like now we sting like a bee and what we need is a swarm....Getting NL a trialmembership would be better than living in fear of your enemies specially if they know what its expected from them. Most of Asgard countries are in a strategical good position but it doesnt help us from getting wiped anyway. Getting a treatie for NL in the future shouldnt be impossible because Poland dont need all their regions anyway.
Cant see any reall good reason than fear for Poland to get NL in Asgard and if we would be afraid of Poland why dont we pay Lithuania to get free instead so we can l-ck their ass even more?
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We want is some close allies to fight shoulder to shoulder with. We have not much expectations, other than friendship and support, whatever the outcome. We always thought you guys to be similar minded.
Altho getting to hear how small and weak we are all the time. does not increase the feeling of welcome..or does it convince me personally about what asgard actually stands for. (despite the rather bold statement on the logo)
I dont understand those arguments about damage either. Brotherhood > all.
also our damage is now below potential because we have people in foreign cs that cant return due to no congress since ages.
Ofc. Some is in norway too right
As a comment on several comments above: The Netherlands is only looking for friendship. There is no hidden agenda or something. Just make up your minds if you want to be our friends.
It's to make the game alive agina for a nation that is cut off from international erep happenings.
Voted
Asgard, the Alliance of Brotherhood where Nations Unite with their Sisters and Brothers.
We Netherlands view the Swedish Canadians Norwegians and Finnish as Brothers and Sisters.
For those still wondering why Netherlands wants to join Asgard?
The 4 Asgard countries are our major allies than any other country in eRepublik and we like to join our Allies in Asgard.
Why we want to join because we want to use Asgard and co against Poland?
Thats is NOT True. We have no intention use Asgard in such military actions.
Would we fight hard for Sweden Norway Finland and Canada?
Yes we do! Our MUs and Minister of Defence put main priority in Asgard countries to fight with all strength we have! If you noticed we have been fighting for Sweden with our CP used a lot of strength to try and defend Sweden from falling, recently I have been fighting for Finland who successfully liberated Oulu from Ukraine and I have achieved my highest damage in thud attack success.
And once again we do not request Asgard help to fend off Poland we just request that we can stay close with our biggest allies as a FAMILY!
Sweden you do not want to reject a close Ally and Brother!
And as stated we are only looking for Friendship and we want to help our Brothers and Sisters to fend off Latvia Estonia Slovakia and Ukraine
HAIL SWEDEN!
HAIL NORWAY!
HAIL FINLAND!
HAIL CANADA!
HAIL NETHERLANDS!
HAIL ASGARD!
Actually you know knothing about foreign politics. Estonia has good relations with Finland. 😉.
estonia into asgard!