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[Open your eyes] They have nucular weapons
Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. (according to Wiki)
I will present some example of propaganda used by the American Government on US population so you can see the other side of the story.
1. America is not imperialistic.
Let’s look at wars waged by America in eRepublik. USA attacked Canada (long time ago but it did), France, Portugal, Mexico and Russia. The USA is not imperialistic not because it does not want to, but because it was and it is still unable to conquer any region from its neighboring countries. This anti-imperialism rethoric of the current Government is just the result of frustration that some smaller countries succeeded and the USA has utterly failed in conquering new regions.
2. The USA is word police fighting for freedom and helping the oppressed
The USA got actively involved and helped Greece free some of its original regions from Turkish reign. But let’s look at different actions: US soldiers fought against Hungary when Hungary tried to liberate its regions, US soldiers fought on the side of Finland when Finland took 2 regions from Latvia, USA tried to help Croatia in the defense of Vojvodina, a region which belongs to Serbia. The truth is that the USA helped its ally, a normal thing, but proclaiming the USA is helping oppressed nations is a half truth, more even a BS, as USA never helped countries oppressed by their allies and fought helping the oppressor.
3. The USA will not spend tons of GOLD on hospitals because it will weaken the country, it will spend that GOLD to strengthen the army.
This is one of my favorites. As long as 65% of the population lives in regions without a Q5 hospital those people will fight less, so their military rank and thus the damage they can inflict in a battle will be far of their maximum potential so the army will be weaker than its maximum potential. Read this article Q5 Hospitals US Open Your Eyes to see a more in-depth analyzes on how the US could build more Q5 hospital without spending a dime and how this would help the army. In fact those who oppose the Q5 hospitals are almost all members of the army, because they are in a privileged situation receiving considerable funding, but if more people would increase in rank and enter the army the amount of funding per soldier would be less, so it is not their interest to have more people join the elites who receive all that money.
4. The USA will enter only important fights and will spend money only on important fights.
This was true in the case of the funds spent in the RW’s in Turkey as the USA succeeded in liberating Central Greece and thus has access to a new high iron region in an ally country. The USA did not help Germany defend itself against Poland and Sweden claiming beside the fact that Sweden and Poland are more important allies of USA than Germany, that Germany has no importance. True. But lets see what is happening now. US troops started yesterday several RW’s in Netherlands in order to free Belgian regions. Those regions have no importance for the USA as they have no resources and even the claim that they try to liberate Belgians is a lie, as the biggest party in Netherlands is the Belgian Party and they openly condemn the RW’s as the union between Netherlands and Belgium was accepted and endorsed by both sides. So do not wonder if people will call you jerk for this action.
5. PEACE is bad and the USA with its allies are good.
Give me a break. Both alliances have their good and their bad side. If we look back we will see that the USA and its allies started more offensive wars than PEACE. So spare me the USA is good BS. Even right now your true friends are voting to open a war with Serbia in order to conquer back Vojvodina, an original Serbian region which is being liberated right as I write this article .
6. The USA condemns political take overs and helps others defend against them.
The USA executed several political TO’s on its own (last party president elections in Turkey) or helped its allies take over other nations (helped Romanians in Indonesia). You will probably argue that you were at war with those nations. True, but do not be a hypocrites as PEACE take overs where directed against enemy nations too. There are many Americans right now running for Congress in the new South American countries. You may say that they are not part of a TO, that they will not plunder those countries but only the future will tell us their real intensions. There is only a thin line between TO and anti-TO in new countries and some people will cross that thin line.
7. The Government always knows what is best as they know game mechanics.
Epic fail. Many people do not know game mechanics. Remember the war games had to be reset to please everyone. Let’s just look at what happened in Vojvodina in the last days. Hungary conquered Vojvodina 2 days ago . As this region originally belonged to Serbia Hungary started an RW in Vojvodina in order to give the region back to Serbia. Couple of hours after the RW started Croatia attacked Vojvodina Beside the fact that it is really hypocritical from the freedom fighter US to call its inhabitants to help Croatia regain that region that belongs to Serbia, game mechanics work differently – if there are more fights in the same region the result of the first fight will influence all other fights. So it the resistance force will win in Vojvodina (very likely as the wall stands at -140.000) all other battles will close. So even if Croatia flanked by the USA will get the wall in the direct war to -1.000.000 the region will go to Serbia not Croatia. Scrabman either forgot to mention that in his article Help Croatia take back Vojvodina or maybe he does not know how game mechanics work. He was not the only one who made this error as other articles appeared in your media which emphasized the importance of the fight in Vojvodina: Croatia under assault , Fight 4 Croatia not Ireland , Revenge! , For Vojvodina! , Help Croatia get Vojvodina Back! .
Be patriots, but do not forget that being patriotic does not mean that you have to blindly follow orders, but it means to work for the best interest of your country. Analyze all information you receive do not take everything at face value. Propaganda is not only what enemies would throw at you but what the Government tells you in order to accept their decisions which sometimes are right and sometimes are wrong.
I will present some example of propaganda used by the American Government on US population so you can see the other side of the story.
1. America is not imperialistic.
Let’s look at wars waged by America in eRepublik. USA attacked Canada (long time ago but it did), France, Portugal, Mexico and Russia. The USA is not imperialistic not because it does not want to, but because it was and it is still unable to conquer any region from its neighboring countries. This anti-imperialism rethoric of the current Government is just the result of frustration that some smaller countries succeeded and the USA has utterly failed in conquering new regions.
2. The USA is word police fighting for freedom and helping the oppressed
The USA got actively involved and helped Greece free some of its original regions from Turkish reign. But let’s look at different actions: US soldiers fought against Hungary when Hungary tried to liberate its regions, US soldiers fought on the side of Finland when Finland took 2 regions from Latvia, USA tried to help Croatia in the defense of Vojvodina, a region which belongs to Serbia. The truth is that the USA helped its ally, a normal thing, but proclaiming the USA is helping oppressed nations is a half truth, more even a BS, as USA never helped countries oppressed by their allies and fought helping the oppressor.
3. The USA will not spend tons of GOLD on hospitals because it will weaken the country, it will spend that GOLD to strengthen the army.
This is one of my favorites. As long as 65% of the population lives in regions without a Q5 hospital those people will fight less, so their military rank and thus the damage they can inflict in a battle will be far of their maximum potential so the army will be weaker than its maximum potential. Read this article Q5 Hospitals US Open Your Eyes to see a more in-depth analyzes on how the US could build more Q5 hospital without spending a dime and how this would help the army. In fact those who oppose the Q5 hospitals are almost all members of the army, because they are in a privileged situation receiving considerable funding, but if more people would increase in rank and enter the army the amount of funding per soldier would be less, so it is not their interest to have more people join the elites who receive all that money.
4. The USA will enter only important fights and will spend money only on important fights.
This was true in the case of the funds spent in the RW’s in Turkey as the USA succeeded in liberating Central Greece and thus has access to a new high iron region in an ally country. The USA did not help Germany defend itself against Poland and Sweden claiming beside the fact that Sweden and Poland are more important allies of USA than Germany, that Germany has no importance. True. But lets see what is happening now. US troops started yesterday several RW’s in Netherlands in order to free Belgian regions. Those regions have no importance for the USA as they have no resources and even the claim that they try to liberate Belgians is a lie, as the biggest party in Netherlands is the Belgian Party and they openly condemn the RW’s as the union between Netherlands and Belgium was accepted and endorsed by both sides. So do not wonder if people will call you jerk for this action.
5. PEACE is bad and the USA with its allies are good.
Give me a break. Both alliances have their good and their bad side. If we look back we will see that the USA and its allies started more offensive wars than PEACE. So spare me the USA is good BS. Even right now your true friends are voting to open a war with Serbia in order to conquer back Vojvodina, an original Serbian region which is being liberated right as I write this article .
6. The USA condemns political take overs and helps others defend against them.
The USA executed several political TO’s on its own (last party president elections in Turkey) or helped its allies take over other nations (helped Romanians in Indonesia). You will probably argue that you were at war with those nations. True, but do not be a hypocrites as PEACE take overs where directed against enemy nations too. There are many Americans right now running for Congress in the new South American countries. You may say that they are not part of a TO, that they will not plunder those countries but only the future will tell us their real intensions. There is only a thin line between TO and anti-TO in new countries and some people will cross that thin line.
7. The Government always knows what is best as they know game mechanics.
Epic fail. Many people do not know game mechanics. Remember the war games had to be reset to please everyone. Let’s just look at what happened in Vojvodina in the last days. Hungary conquered Vojvodina 2 days ago . As this region originally belonged to Serbia Hungary started an RW in Vojvodina in order to give the region back to Serbia. Couple of hours after the RW started Croatia attacked Vojvodina Beside the fact that it is really hypocritical from the freedom fighter US to call its inhabitants to help Croatia regain that region that belongs to Serbia, game mechanics work differently – if there are more fights in the same region the result of the first fight will influence all other fights. So it the resistance force will win in Vojvodina (very likely as the wall stands at -140.000) all other battles will close. So even if Croatia flanked by the USA will get the wall in the direct war to -1.000.000 the region will go to Serbia not Croatia. Scrabman either forgot to mention that in his article Help Croatia take back Vojvodina or maybe he does not know how game mechanics work. He was not the only one who made this error as other articles appeared in your media which emphasized the importance of the fight in Vojvodina: Croatia under assault , Fight 4 Croatia not Ireland , Revenge! , For Vojvodina! , Help Croatia get Vojvodina Back! .
Be patriots, but do not forget that being patriotic does not mean that you have to blindly follow orders, but it means to work for the best interest of your country. Analyze all information you receive do not take everything at face value. Propaganda is not only what enemies would throw at you but what the Government tells you in order to accept their decisions which sometimes are right and sometimes are wrong.
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You may say it's propaganda.. but have you been told by any government sources why the US is wasting hundreds of gold for no apparent reason in the Netherlands?
Come on Zoli, you don't think that we're so stupid as to not know all of this already do you?
I already knew I was being lied to, though, I just hope I'm being lied to by you, too.
P.S. About that message I sent you..
@Vincent Garibaldi - And this does not bother you a bit? Based on responses I get at my articles it seems to me that many people just take at face value what they are being told by elected ofiicial.
Jonathan McCravy - Patience. I will respond you today.
PEACE operative? Certainly. Propaganda? You bet. Got a point? Afraid so...
..I'm just waiting untill my friendly government officer trolls arive. Trotem? Trotem? Do you usually come around for this kind of stuff?
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marioXXL - Wrote: "Don't trust Zoli, he's Romanian"
eHungary and eRomania is in war. eUs and eRomania are friends or allies.
Help me! I don't understand it!
>As long as 65% of the population lives in regions without a Q5 hospital
{citation needed}
>members of the army, because they are in a privileged situation
The military is hardly privileged. Only the mobile units are supplied with weapons, and moving around sucks ass. Unless you have a really good employee that lets you move back, work, and then fires you once a day, you have to work at shitty paying overseas jobs. So I wouldn't say privileged. There's a trade-off.
>the biggest party in Netherlands is the Belgian Party
wtf. Why has Belgium been under some one else's rule since the inception of the war mod?
>PEACE is bad and the USA with its allies are good.
Agreed, although I doubt you'll be seeing anyone with an IQ over 80 saying that. The fact is, though, and large alliances breed polarity. I'd love to see a year of no large alliances and see where we end up.
>There are many Americans right now running for Congress in the new South American countries.
I can see why you might be tense about that, since we're enemies atm, but there are people from all over the world who moved to the new countries for a new life. One somewhat famous American has roots in Peru, and planned to move there before the regions were even announced, and his friends went with him(you can find his post on the US forum if you really want to). It's happened in every new country, Americans and other countrymen. The president of Singapore is a former US presidential candidate, and Singapore is doing great. My point is that we have a track record. Some other countries do not.
>The Government always knows what is best as they know game mechanics.
Agreed again. See the first iteration of our war games. This is not, in the least, true
@Emerick -
Army - if the mobile infantry would have its own companies findng jobs and fireing employees when needed would not be that much a problem.
Belgium - it was their choise. The Netherlands - Belgium Union was endorsed and accepted by both sides, who are you to interfear. If they want something else they can do it as they have the biggest party in Belgium.
PTO - Malayezia has a Hungarian president and they are doing great so what is your point? You cannot tell that only one side is good and the other is evil.
@Zoli: don't forget that the Maleyzia previously had a polish presindet, and they also did very good under him.
The part abouth the Netherlands/Belgium is very valid. How can the american goverment justify tanking there? Even if they do succeed, the countries will unite again very shortly.
About game mechanisms, i would like to remind the brilliant moved that started the Atlantis wargames, and which left Great Britain without allies for some days. Or was it a mistake?
>if the mobile infantry would have its own companies findng jobs and fireing employees when needed would not be that much a problem.
I'm sure our military owns companies, but they're not going to give out (at least)two moving tickets to every mobile soldier every day. That's just bad business.
>Belgium - it was their choise
Oh, I know. It was their choice with the UK, too. I'm just geniunely curious as to why.
>PTO
My only point was that US citizens have a track record of moving to small countries and actually helping it(except William Shafer, but he's a jackass). I think it has something to do with our fiercely competitive politics that droves some good people away, whether it's because they don't agree with the direction we're headed, or they just can't stand the politics in general- both leave.
If you change USA with Italy , the results are quite similar.
> Oh, I know. It was their choice with the UK, too. I'm just geniunely curious as to why.
Because Spanish goons tried to PTO Belgium they merged with the Netherlands, always with the option open to secede the moment they want to. However, they don't want to seperate.
You know perfectly well that the Belgians are quite content with the Union and are fighting against it. There is only 1 reason for the USA to waste gold in our country, and that is without a reason.
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/american-invasion-fight-for-green-update-17-40-2nd-rw--837528/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/amer[..]/1/20</a>
@Emerick: I don't know about the Belgium-Britain merger. PEACE propaganda says it was decided by the Belgian president alone, anti-PEACE propaganda says it was the will of the Belgian people. You are older in the game, guess you know better.
About the Netherland-Belgium merger: both are small countries, in constant threat of TOs. So they decided to merge, and being able to protect each other this way. For instance, spanish tried taking over Belgium several times.
mai zoli , ne-ai lasat pe noi...acum ii iei pe americani la puricat?)
"1. America is not imperialistic.
Let’s look at war waged by America in eRepublik. USA attacked Canada (long time ago but it did), France, Portugal, Mexico and Russia. The USA is not imperialistic not because it does not want to, but because it was and it is still unable to conquer any region from its neighboring countries. This anti-imperialism rethoric of the current Government is just the result of frustration that some smaller countries succeeded and the USA has utterly failed in conquering new regions...
...Be patriots, but do not forget that being patriotic does not mean that you have to blindly follow orders, but it means to work for the best interest of your country. Analyze all information you receive do not take everything at face value."
WIN. I really do hate having to be elitist to get my point across, but you half you people would start thinking the sky is green if Zoli said it was blue. You are rejecting Zoli ad hominem and ignoring his good points because you can't take the time to think for yourselves (undoubtedly there is a similar problem in RL America). You have more people than any country in the New World; your country should be way better than this (this coming from a person that would hope to rejoin your country one day when you people take off the brain slugs and start getting down to business). I am not trying to be a prick or a propagandist, I am trying to tell you guys the truth: PEACE feels sorry for your country. Either beat Hungary or join em, but you won't be able to do either until you start using YOUR OWN brains (not your leaders').
@zoli you may be a peace troll but you have very valid points, and even though you are the enemy the usa goverment should stop being so stubbern and listen.
Zoli...your PEACE...your Hungarian. Why are you here "helping" the eUSA?
Not to mention all of those failed Spanish attempts in PTOing France.
oh good, the new PEACE rag is out and I had just run out of toilet paper.
Thank you Zoli. I knew my country has a bunch of hypocrites, I just couldn't find or remember evidence.
this is a one crazy shit...sorry unvoted
@Emerick
one us marine got 80 gold + 50-60 gold( q5 weapons) daily
from this money you can start a successful q3 company business/ daily
and in the second day you can do the q4 upgrade
and in the 4th day the q5 upgrade
and from now on you could have a monthly revenue over 400-500 gold by building hospitals
clawy, Malaysia never have had a Polish president so far. Only roughly half of the congress was Polish once for a week or so.
Another great article from Zoli. No wonder all sebahmah can do is uninspired spoofs and copy/paste.
Articles like this have probably done more to educate the eAmerican citizen and shed light on the self-serving agenda of the eUSA administration than most of the eAmerican opposition leaders, which really is a shame.
@ LG Ato: Because certain ex-ATLANTIS countries and most of your politicians abuse the eUSA citizenry by trying to turn the eAmericans into an uninformed and unquestioningly obedient horde of zombies.
Why should PEACE care? But we are getting bored of having to fight off misguided eAmerican attempts at "helping the allies", when those allies are really just using eUSA as enforcer muscle to do their dirty work, and your politicians don't mind, because it's a great excuse for them to tank with tax money.
Sorry for the spam. An article about the new achievemnts (Ambassador Medal). Please read, comment and vote for international!!
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fair-play-ro-en--838562/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fair[..]/1/20</a>
Zoli, I made a shout out to you in the new eUS podcast. I hope you listen. I professed my undying love.
Link: <a href="http://www.cvpamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=7" target="_blank">http://www.cvpamerica.com/index.php?opti[..]mid=7</a>
Tiacha - so this means I can go back to the USA chat?
When I get home, I'll unban you and give you another chance.
Some valid points here. Especially the hospital article, but this one too (though not entirely).
@0911sk: He is Hungarian from Romania, just like me. But he is fighting for Hungary, and works for Hungary, while I fight and work for Romania. There is quite a big minority of Hungarians in Romania, especially in Transylvania.
Quick Run he has the serpent tongue of Benn Dover!
Yeah. I'm new here and quite frankly I'm questioning certain moves, on everyone's part. I'm not pro or against anyone, but I have been seeing certain things which have made me question America's goals AS WELL AS Peace's goals. Fighting for things that dont' belong to you, hypocritical statements on both sides, etc. That's what I see.
Although I am in agreement with Vincent Garibaldi's statement that "Come on Zoli, you don't think that we're so stupid as to not know all of this already do you?" it is important for members of the eUSA (myself included) to acknowledge the legitimacy of his claims whether we are ignorant of the truth behind our governments curtain or not. It is far too easy to accept and believe what we are being told, and far harder to question the statements of those we trust most.
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What makes what you say right? You describe what a propagandist is. YOU ARE EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED!! YOU are deliberatly omitting facts to support your point of view! YOU are the one spamming american media with this drek!! You have no respect for any american, so stop acting like you care.
1,2,5,&6 - PEACE uses those same arguments in their propaganda. I've seen Zoli and at least half the PEACE trolls who've commented try to portray PEACE as altruistic, anti-imperialistic, freedom fighters out to save the world from the PTO's of of those sneaky Swedes and evil Romanians.
3 - Repeatedly debunked. Anyone who wishes to take advantage of a Q5 hospital can move to Florida or New Jersey. Also, there is nothing elitist about our military. That's just a piece of propaganda that Zoli loves to spread. All citizens are encouraged to join the training division, and anyone is eligible to join the Mobile Infantry at a strength of 4, where they will receive weapons when deployed, just like the Army, Airborne, and Marines.
Commie! Not voting, plus he moved back to Hungary, where he should be. Also, if lets say 65% of eUSA were not in a Q5 hospital region, and aren't aware that they should be to be in a fight, well then in that case, they are not active enough, nor smart enough to realize they should be. The people that matter, are in there respected regions, and the Q5 hospital is only there for when WE NEED IT, not when YOU WANT IT.
GET OUT OF THE eUSA! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE! YOU ARE A PEACE FREAK THAT IS TRYING TO CREATE PROPAGANDA! STOP WASTING YOUR TIME AND DO MORE IMPORTANT THINGS!
@Zoli aren't you getting of spouting off the propaganda.
Do you like the idea of us calling you comrade Zoli?
And you can't even spell nuclear right. You have grat day Zoly.
I wish there was a way for nations to vote to disable certain people from posting articles.
I don't think anyone in eAmerica cares what you think, you're a big troll with no purpose other than propaganda and trolling.
Jon Malcom - on what planet do yu live. If George called it "nucular" I can call it "nucular" too
@Zoli
Spare me this article BS.
Zoli, I will be nice and help you understand that you are an absolute idiot.
1st off, the MI does have many of it's own companies, and many of us do employ other soldiers to fire as needed.
2: 4. The USA will enter only important fights and will spend money only on important fights.
Would you like us to spend money on not important fights? There is a reason the fights are IMPORTANT. That is why we spend gold. Why waste gold on NON-important fights?
3: 3. The USA will not spend tons of GOLD on hospitals because it will weaken the country, it will spend that GOLD to strengthen the army.
Why spend thousands of gold on Q5 hospitals, when the average person can spend ~12.5 USD on a ticket? We have two regions where people can go, and there really is no reason to get more.
Overall, your attempts at trying to use propaganda fail, and you should stop now, before the entire country knows you are an absolute idiot.
@Cesog fillireb
"and you should stop now, before the entire country knows you are an absolute idiot."
Ummm... TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!! We all know he is!
Hey guys, welcome back from your trolling campaign in the Dutch media.
Btw of course Zoli was vastly exaggerating with his 15 or so q5 hospitals example a few articles ago but in my opinion the USA indeed has too few q5 hospitals compared to her population. Just a personal opinion though.
Nagyzee - I sad they could build 15 Q5 hospitals a year but they can sell some of them. I agree that 10 Q5 hospitals in the US would suffice.
3 more would be ok. Honestly, how many do you need if you are smart enough to move?
@Zoli, so it's ok not to spell it right. What the heck does a former president have to with your spelling errors?
Joe Malcom please google up George to see that the title is a quotation. He said it first
fact: if your enemy wants you to do something, don't do it. the US government may not be prefect, but at least they want what is best for the US. When the US acted imperialist, it admited it. supporting romania against peace was vital to us interests, which we have never said is not our foremost value. Right now we value attacking hungary more than we value serbia's freedom. The US had a no-pto policy, and no one commended us for it.
the idea that peace is bad, is better put peace is the enemy. peace's goals are contrary to ours. peace is bad for us. Both sides call themselves good, and liberators, and condemn the other as imperialistic. It is part of the game, get over it
Zoli's articles are a great tool for moron detection and idiot humiliation: he writes something truthful and reasonable knowing in advance that all the ignoramuses and fanatics will shout themselves hoarse trying to deny it
PEACE is bad, cause they PTO everyone. They do not fight for their land. They just take it. Grow up PEACE and fight!
@ Ryan_5: Who decides "what is best for the US" and "vital to US interests" and why can't he/they be wrong?
Also who told you PEACE is your enemy and has goals contrary to yours? Actually PEACE has never attacked the USA, only defended its member-states from USA attacks. And how do you know we have contrary goals when all USA has done for months is serve Romania, Sweden, Poland and Croatia's interests?
@ Mitchellz1: A short eHistory quiz for you:
1. How did Romania conquer Russia?
2. How did Sweden and Poland conquer Germany?
2. How did Croatia conquer most of Serbia?
LOL
I havent been playing that long. I am just sick of PEACE trying to PTO everything and PEACE thinking they are tough s*** cause they aren't.
Although it may be PEACE propaganda, Zoli does make some good points that I think the eUSA should listen to.
*Ahem* Zoli Piss off
#4. The USA used 1,000+ gold in the attack against Russia and lost. All that money, wasted.
PEACE is wringing their hands in fear that they no longer have a monopoly on military dominance and PTO shenanigans. Ain't it cool?
im afraid ive had to subscribe.
Yay more PEACE BS
Again stop complaining the only reason you are writing those things is because you and your BS friends are theatened by the US.
Come on, you have to admit this bs is good for a laugh.
@Zoli: "Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission)"
This is what you did in this article: presenting only the facts that are in you advantage.
so do you peace guys really have nothing better to do than fill american news with propaganda?
@DrStrange
LOL no they don't! none of them work or train
cheating gets them through the game!
Zoli, if PEACE is so great, why don't you just move to Hungary. People might enjoy reading your bs there.
@ Mitchellz1
Being new you should be careful with what you say, but it's obvious you've been indoctrinated well. Go read some eHistory before making such comments.
Actually, that counts for a lot of players here. New players read something a superior says and think it's true. Be critical and look at the facts. And don't take granted what some people give you as facts, because often there is more to find.
PEACE GC isn't holy, but compared to an alliance as Atlantis you could almost say it is.
*chuckles* No, you couldn't, Jazar.
learn to proofread, for god's sake.
How dumb would our leaders be to believe that you have our best interests at heart (regarding hospitals) when you clearly want to destroy us?
Regarding imperialism, the most imperialistic nation in eRepublik is Indonesia. Last I checked, they're PEACE. Then there's Pakistan. Do you guys ever bother to, you know, discipline your members or do you just let them run rampant and do whatever they want? Pakistan makes PEACE (and your argument) look bad, period.
This whole piece reads like a Michelle Malkin column... nitpicking the weirdest tidbits and focusing on so many political non-sequiturs (like #7) that I get lost in the fog of irrelevance.
Hey, Vincent, hello from your ex-neighbours.
It's always refreshing to read your comments in the US media.
Not voted, for this PEACE propoganda.
I think he wants us to vote.
You hypocrite. If this isn't propaganda, I don't know what this is.
Oh, and this little tidbit,
1. America is not imperialistic.
Let’s look at wars waged by America in eRepublik. USA attacked Canada (long time ago but it did), France, Portugal, Mexico and Russia. The USA is not imperialistic not because it does not want to, but because it was and it is still unable to conquer any region from its neighboring countries. This anti-imperialism rhetoric of the current Government is just the result of frustration that some smaller countries succeeded and the USA has utterly failed in conquering new regions.
That happened during V1 when the war module first came out. It was a turbulent time and everyone was out for everyone.
Awesome! The trolls arived!
People, when it says "Open your eyes" it means he actually wants you to. The people I just addressed in my previous comment I meant you people who come in, say he's a troll, then leave. You didn't read the article. You just have it drilled into your mind that he's a troll, he isn't.
This IS propaganda.
BS.
Nucular....sounds like bush talk to me, learn to spell
I'm no PEACE fan and I think Zoli has trolled in the past (especially Scrab's articles), but this article is well-reasoned and entirely fair. Do I agree with all of it? No, not really. But he raises some good points, and it's certainly not propaganda. These knee-jerk "Zoli = PEACE = bad" arguments are tired and stale.
Oh hey Nagyzee. It's been a while. Your comments are pretty good to see too. It probably has something to do with you using your brain, unlike certain others. (from both sides.)
I miss the days when Zoli wasn't releasing BS articles in the US media whose only purpose is to spark fueds between US citizens. I wish everyone would see that he is succeeding in his goal of disrupting the population. Zoli does not want to help the US at all, please believe me. He is nothing more than a PEACE troll. Everyone that votes for his articles is doing nothing more than contributing to the downfall of the eUS.
Zoli, you still haven't taken up my proposition. At the very least you could've said, "thanks, but no thanks". I know someone who cares soooo much about the eUS would not turn his back on us now.
@Touni
How is it propaganda? He's taking some of our arguments, and proving them wrong.
Go America! Fight for them poor Croatians! Hail Satan!
Wait, take back that last one. Got a little too excited.
Zoli ... what the frak you doin' here
Heh I just remembered something. America, do you remember when India was in fear of being attacked by I believe it was Indonesia? They asked for help, and we along with 7 other nations allied with them. Indonesia, backed off. We proceeded to call them names like "wusses!" and "wimps!", because of that. (I'm not sure if they responded, I never saw anything in the articles I checked, however they were from America)
Do you remember what happened in Mexico? We attacked them, and after we triggered their 8 MPP's, we backed off. PEACE proceeded to call us names. We complained(LOUDLY) that it wasn't fair, it would be stupid to try to fight them..
Country X threatens to attack/attacked country Y.
Country Y has its A mpp's ready/activated, and country X backs off.
Country Y along with all of the A countries, makes fun of country X.
Country X complains that its not a fair fight.
A=Number X=ANY COUNTRY Y=ANY COUNTRY
We like to use doublethink here in eRep don't we? Am I not sure of this as I don't read PEACE member countries newspapers, but I think all of our countries are quite similar. We are just told and made to believe we are different. (1984 ftw)
@Jazar (PEACE GC isn't holy, but compared to an alliance as Atlantis you could almost say it is.)
did they tell you. Atlantis is no longer around. Hey my American friends some people in PEACE still think Atlantis is still around