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Ups, I was wrong all of you are illegal immigrants.

So actually if it's to be believed according to this fabricated list; current MoFA is illegal immigrant.

I'm on the list! Woooo
Not for good reasons, though.

Jofroi PP candidate in Defiance? is not that also a PTO attempt?
and how can Thorin II Oakenshield PTO his own party?
seems that the manipulation starts again, I understand that RB wants to be sure the right person becomes PP of their party, but no need to offend people of other party's this way.

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Make up your mind, you said that Junior wasn't a PTO'er trying to run for PP of RB but when Jofroi runs for Defiance it suddenly is a PTO attempt.

Jofroi running is a reaction on them trying to PTO party. you can complain about Jofroi running for PP in Defiance but it is Defiance and Junior who made it necessary to do so. If you want to complain about somebody go complain to your Defiance buddies.

And what about Tensa Zangtsu running in LF?

"And what about Tensa Zangtsu running in LF?"

As I have explained already, he is suffering from certain urinary problems.

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And who knows, maybe there is even more, that we don't know and we are not informed as they are keeping their secrets for themselves. Jofroi can not be concerned as PTO-er, as he was asked to be pp in the next term.

It is because all three of them have incontinence problems and are suffering from erectile dysfunction. They are also running for the newly established Award; The Nerd of the Year Award.

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Oh, get lost, I am just reacting on the ATO list where Junior is mentioned as PTO and Jofroi is not, while he does the same thing, so if one is PTOing he other one is also PTOing.
and indeed I said that Junior is not a PTOer, I still say it, he has nothing to see with defiance, if you still do not know him now you never will.

Didn't defiance directly support jofroi for CP elections? Yes they did.

ATO-policies are irrelevant at this point, since there's nothing illegal being done by those you call PTO'ers.


...Still, huge blow for Defiance, the sheet shows that even given full responsibility of their CS-pass, they prefer to rub their shoes on the face of all other parties by not taking up their duty of conversation, while the CoC even created an ingame PM for their forum-lazy asses. Who's the evil elite now? You know where not to vote in the next Congress elections at this point.

" they prefer to rub their shoes on the face of all other parties by not taking up their duty of conversation, while the CoC even created an ingame PM for their forum-lazy asses."

It is not quite truth what you are saying; I myself don´t have full access to the Forum and some of our members don´t have it as well, so how can we discuss anything and take a part in any discussion? When the members of other parties can come into the Immigration Section and we can´t. And as for CoC´s in-game messages, they are considered as Spam and directly reported to the Administrators.

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DEFIANCE CM's accepting people without approval or even debate: Partigiano, BaraBum, Joep Hoep and yourself. Conclusion: you are the only one that can use that excuse, the others have as much acces as I do yet refused to take up their responsibility.

ALL FOUR of you are included in the same Congress PM as I do, yet not even there did you discuss whether or not the immigrants should be accepted.

The incompetence of your representatives is there black-on-white, there's no way of denying it. The sooner you accept this and change your ways, the less you'll ridiculize your party.

And I forgot Marko Klis, who has both access to the forum and the PM!

I don't have access to the Immigration Section; it's kind of unusual but I don't know why.

What eBE needs now is a wipe. It is really clear who the PTOers are. There is a total lack of respect for the laws and traditions of the land and you have Defiance and gang packing their parties with illegal citizenships which only benefits their party at the expense of a fair democracy. Maybe Boer Jan is too stupid and idiotic to understand and comprehend what is going on, but people like him who sold his loyalty rather cheaply to the PTO are more to blamed in the decline and fall of eBE as you really should know better.

I think the last wipe proved that doesn't work either, as I pointed out many month before that wipe started.

Oh and before you start accusing me as well,... I do not fully support boer jan's view(I do understand it) nor do I open relax on the "PTOers".

I'm just pointing out that these day's more and more people take extreme positions in either directions. And this does not serve our nation and it's inhabitants.

indeed , my idea was to get both camps closer and all I see is that they are tearing each in other directions, (worse some non CS people try to confuse everybody), I thought that once in congress some people would try to adapt some rules like immigration, it was even started, but it never get finished?
and for Konrad, I never sold my loyalty, I am still loyal to my country.
Sometimes I may sound extreme, but it seems the only way to be heard those days.

I do find it strange that you said it did not work. How many PTOers accepted illegal CS during the wipe? How much PTOers got into the country? How many PTOers were active. It is people who do not have a long term vision that caused the end of it. The wiped was a huge success in addressing the aims of the wipe. It is some idiots who feels the need to be on the map are the problem. I think some members of the ATO party are part of the problem as they are enjoyed most CP terms but blames RB for everything and power hungry. Fact is, there are more ATO CP in eBE history than RB as MQ stated many times. If you really think negotiation is possible, then you are naive and deserve to fail. Talk is and was over long ago. They did a referendum on immigration and now they go against the referendum that they made. In the end, it is comprehensive actions like the wipe which produced results to combat the PTO threat. But it is evident that many eBEers are short sighted and feels the need for instant gratification with low tolerance of endurance and effort. You can ask any real experience players that the wipe is the most effective means to combat PTOers. eBE needs to learn from the Danes.

Now you have opened Pandora's Box but most of you are still in denial about it. I wonder would any of you will truly wake up one day or you will go and sink in a sinking ship, delusional.

Harsh words from Konrad.

He is always preaching the same old ideology of his:

1. the wipe
2. illegal cs's
3. referendum on immigration
4. ceasing of the eBelgian existence

But in reality; it's not that bad.

We are still alive and well; in good shape and with a healthy sense of humor.

But Pandora's Box is completely new item in his Little Shop of Horrors.

"But in reality; it's not that bad."

I think this article proves the contrary. Also eBE changed a lot already from the tolerance to bullying to having more and move Eastern European illegal CS's changing both politics and tones of eBE media. You are quick to dismiss the key points but then again, you never had any real arguments other than trolling and harassing people. For you really cannot deny the points as well....

Konrad, you are terrorizing us with your theories.

eBelgium is not PTO-ed and will not be PTO-e😛

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ebe-will-not-be-pto-039-ed-2376638/1/20

All the rest is your imagination and fiction.

lol, who made that bs elections list? And why am I labeled as a ptoer? 🙂

Because you are one...

Sup, Conchita?

Jofroi made a PTOer as his Prime Minister. And, his Prime Minister have accepted PTOers.. It's clear..