[MoC] Fortsættelse af "[MoC] Påstande/anklager mod regeringen og svar dertil”
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Fortsættelse af ” [MoC] Påstande/anklager mod regeringen og svar dertil”
Dette er en fortsættelse af artiklen ” [MoC] Påstande/anklager mod regeringen og svar dertil”
Tvivlere
Der har i de seneste par uger, været personer som har sat spørgsmålstegn ved regeringen og dens medlemmer. Enkelte personer har ment, at regeringen ikke er nogle der tager vare for hele Danmark, men i virkeligheden er medlemmer af en såkaldt "inner circle", hvis eksistens dog endnu ikke har kunnet bevises.
Som modsvar på disse postulater og tvivlsomme anklager, vil jeg nu fremføre mit(som regeringens talsmand) syn på disse anklager.
Nb. Der kan i den følgende tekst være indikationer på, at der kun ses negativt på disse personer. Det er BESTEMT IKKE tilfældet. Vi ønsker fra regeringens side at være så tæt knyttet til befolkningen som muligt. Skulle folk have et andet syn på sagen end det der bliver skrevet, er man mere end velkommen til at dele dette synspunkt via en kommentar, privat besked eller andet.
Påstande/anklager og svar
"Nå ja, jeg gættet på at stor set kun halvdelen i EDanmark kan læse dette fordi de er ingen gang fra Danmark, så dette er menigløst alligevel." - fremsat af Kasper Haurum, tirsdag den 25. februar.
Svar: Ja der er mange udlændinge, men hvorfor tror du? Den eneste måde man kan standse 30 PTO'er, som angriber Danmark samtidigt er ved at rekruttere folk som man stoler på. Da Danmark ikke har jordens største befolkning, så bliver det bare endnu sværere af det. Jeg synes helt ærligt, at du burde sætte dig ned, tage en snak med regeringen på IRC, sætte dig ind i hvorfor tingene er som de er, og forstå at vi ønsker at alle Danskere deltager aktivt i debatterne.
"Jeg må sige at i ikke kan forvente at folk beholder deres gejst for at gøre noget aktuel i denne eStat når alligevel deres stemme altid vil være mindre værd når en karlsmart veteran som har været president 12 gang i træk." fremsat af Kasper Haurum, onsdag den 26. februar.
Svar: Når du kommer med det postulat, at vi har haft den samme præsident 12 gange i træk, så bliver jeg nødt til at reagere negativt.
For det første så har vi indført en regel, om at den samme præsident max må være præsident 3 gange i træk, netop for at undgå en sådan situation, derudover så har vi altså haft mange forskellige præsidenter det sidste halve år. pt. er Gucio præsident, Pho3nix var præsident i februar, Jeg var præsident i januar, ilphen i december, Maine Coon var godt nok 2 måneder i træk fra oktober til og med november, men hun gjorde et vanvittigt godt arbejde. Jeg kan simpelthen ikke se hvor du vil hen med det. Derudover prøver vi altså at have så mange forskellige folk i kongressen, så folk får lov at komme ind en gang imellem. Går du længere tilbage i historikken, vil du se, at personer har været præsident i 3 eller flere måneder i træk. Det var dog fra en tid, hvor tingene så helt anderledes ud.
Nb. Den følgende tekst er skrevet på engelsk, og derfor vil svarene også være på engelsk.
"We don't get to keep any land worth mentioning, we barely ever get to have elections and when we do, it's the same little circle that claims the congress and presidency seats over and over again. A chance to score any True Patriot points is a seldom sight here in eDenmark." - fremsat af MansTrueNature*, lørdag den 08-03-2014
*MansTrueNature er en dansker, som bidrager til debat i eDanmark. Han forsøger at hjælpe til med at skabe aktivitet, og er ofte blevet belønnet med en høj rangering til kongresvalg.
First of all: I have now heard that word inner circle a lot by 3 persons! only 3 persons! So I would like to hear an explanation: Who are in this Inner circle? I want names not just "inner circle". If you could give me some names it will be easier to tell you why these members are in the position they are in.
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I accept that you say that I am a part of that "inner circle" because that I am an active part of the government and have a lot power in my hands, but at the same time it is a problem for you. Isn't it a good thing that you have a person that is active and does a lot for the country? Also. Wouldn't you say that if you are active and knows who that is trustworthy, what that should be done when we have a congress etc. then you deserve to get a congress medal? I don't want to be anyones enemy or hate you for having a different vision, but you have to understand that the reason why I have my congress medals and the power I have, is because that I am an active citizen and I do a lot for eDenmark. If people think that they do enough to deserve a congress medal or whatever then I think they should talk to me or anyone else at forum, in PM's or at IRC!!!!.
"-We need to do some more friendly training wars again. It's really, really obnoxious that we don't get those TP points that would help us progress individually. Doesn't even matter if we get steam rolled every time, so I don't know why we stopped doing them. We seem to be good at whipping Denmark of unwanted regions near critical elections anyway." - fremsat af MansTrueNature, lørdag den 08-03-2014
Svar: Gucio wrote: “Getting TP medals, as far as I'm aware if the walls are on a + for Germany, then you are more than welcome to get some TP damage done, as long as your fighting or tanking won't affect the battle or the wall.”
As you can see in the latest articles by the MoD we give you a possibility to fight for Denmark, however we can’t make training wars all the time. Germany has its interest too and we need to be sure how many regions we have, when we reach congress election time.
"-Some of us Danes needs to reconsider how they address others when questions are asked. Specifically those in that inner circle that takes the government seats every time. Being elected is a privilege, but should also come with the burden of accepting criticism. I'll leave it to those in question to figure that out on their own." - Fremsat af MansTrueNature, lørdag den 08-03-2014.
Svar: Of course it is the same people that sits in the government every month, BECAUSE, they are the only ones who WANTS TO BE A PART of the government. We try to get more people in the government, but no one requests one. So don’t blame us.
Yes we should be aware how we answer people, but sometimes it is difficult to accept criticism, when the one who criticizes you doesn’t have any solutions, knowledge about what is going on etc.
"And if you doubt there's an inner circle(perceived or not), then all you need to do is browse profiles and have a look at who has the medals. I'm one of them and I make no claims that it's intentional, but I can see the viewpoint of those that have been complaining. It's also repeating a pattern that the first 5 replies getting defensive about criticism all have gotten X amount of gold from those sweet government medals. I didn't want to mention names, but with myself included you already have 6 out of that inner circle
😉" - fremsat af MansTrueNature, lørdag den 08-03-2014.
Svar: Just so that you know it. Until last month we had NEVER! ranked anyone in the congress elections. That also means that you can't say that people should look at the congress medals. The PP's received following message until last month: Please rank these people: xx, xx lower than the trusted ones. The people marked with xx is PTO'ers. So if someone has congressmedals it is because that the PP's decided to rank them at a good position in the priority list. I can tell you that some PP's don't change the priority list at all except of moving PTO'ers to the bottom of the list. Yes we do sometimes ask people to vote a special place, but that is because that we try to prevent PTO'ers from getting into the congress.
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I totally agree with MansTrueNature in all aspects.
You should just become a part of eGermany already. Together we'll be a great Germark. I suggest you make an eGerman political party that will respect and show off the Danish values in eGermany.
or you could decide to stay in eDenmark and help us win elections, so that we won't get PTO'ed. Matthias I am sure you want the best for eDenmark, therefore it is a stupid comment to say that people should leave the country.
I can count the number of active people in eDenmark on both my hands.
You said yourself that you haven't had a congress for months.
Does that justify that you say that people should leave Denmark? Why should people leave Denmark and make it a new eJapan, eBelgium etc.? Why don't you try to make people stay and try to improve Denmark even more?
"2. People are naturally intimidated by authority. Even if they disagree with your actions, it takes quite a bit before they will speak up about it. Unless you reach that point when you have made them angry and then you are suddenly facing mutiny." -Something else I said.
Now there are two more voices speaking up it seems. Not a moment to soon all of this was brought up.
I should also be honest about the couple of guys joining eDenmark the other day. I invited a handful to test the waters if I could take over management of eDenmark completely and with 6/10 answering my call, you can guess the result if I ask the other 300 in my clans. You'd be seeing MTN for president and all parties occupied by my Polish, Romanian, American, Norwegian, Belgian, Malay etc friends 🙂
However, it's not my first plan of action. For one I don't want to owe anyone anything and I would if I pulled a favor like that, but I also didn't raise my voice in the first place to cause a disturbance. There are some legit things we need to talk about and getting on the defensive about issues asked will get us nowhere.
Disclaimer: I have no interest nor time to run for President, but it goes back to my mantra. I'm not angry yet, but there's a result if I'm pushed there😉
one thing is getting people to join, another to get them to stay and actually play 😛
The things you need us to talk about, please make a post in forum and lets talk there, as in my opinion that would be better than doing it in the press 🙂
I have not intention of asking them to do anything more than level up so they could vote(I actually specified they shouldn't even bother to play as of yet). It wouldn't be a babyboom, but more a display of what truly earned loyalty gets you.
I can't pull those strings because I thought I was boss all those years I've played with them. I can do so because I fiercely protected their interests and never took criticism as anything more but a means to get better at what I do. Learning you know 🙂
I'm more qualified to make a post about leadership in a MMO in general than I am about eRep mechanics and I think it would be extremely narcissistic.. If there's an interest in reading about all my failures and how I little by little figured things out, then yeah I might write something up for you. I just need to revisit just about every forum I ever went on for the past 8 years to do a little research first😛
”it's not my first plan of action”, “ I'm not angry yet, but there's a result if I'm pushed there😉”. Once again I’m probably a bit slow. Is that to be understood as a warning? And if it is - really? serioulsy?, why would you ever do that? For the good of eDenmark? I hope you do not end up hurting eDenmark because of pride or similar...
It is a warning. It would require a heck of a lot of coordination on my end to pull off, but not impossible to place 150+ players here that answers to me only. If you check out the last election results you will know it's more than enough and then some.
But why would I? Because it would be educational to some trying to get rid of me. They'd suddenly have no power over you and would have to treat you as an equal if they wanted rid of the "culprit". Maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing 😉
At any rate, it's still not my first choice. I'd rather argue and see if we can fix things that way.
So you would use your "slaves" (in lack of a better word) to overturn the current leadership of the country, just to prove how far you can get by treating people equally?
I hope I'm not the only one finding that a bit amusing! 😃
Anyway, I would gladly see you do that - anything that could spark a bit of activity amongst the players of eDenmark is greatly appreciated. As long as it is responsible people running the country for the good of the country, and not just their own good..
I just hope you're ready to turn in the work that is needed to run the country(which you claim you could do/have done in other games), otherwise I'd suggest you don't carry through this masterplan of yours, 'coz it would end up destroying the country..