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“What if the financial crisis REALLY goes bad?”
Financial business 
Are you familiar with this expression:
“What if the financial crisis REALLY goes bad?”
I’m sure you saw it somewhere
Let’s start from the beginning, everything started with this:
We’ve got message from Plato about removing toolboxes and he removed it after that maintenance but I was really angry because he removed option for migrating companies without warning us. I had two Q6 weapon companies I was planing one of them migrate to Q6 food company but without any warning I couldn’t do that anymore.
Few days later Plato sent us new message:
In this mayor change they removed lands and after that we have a new My place system where we can with less clicks work as manager in many our companies and they put as cap on who many workers we can have.
Our lovely Plato give us 1000 local currency for every free land we had on our property and from now on every company you create with local currency cost 1000 CC more. (CC = local currency)
Before that you could built cattle company for 7500 CC + 1000 CC for a land, today you can build same company for 8500 CC and dissolve it for 4250 CC which is fair.
But every building you built with a gold before this update you built it on a land and that land cost you 1000 CC but after that update when you dissolve a building which you built for gold you’ll get only 50% of that amount of gold and that 50% of 1000 CC for a land is obviously disappeared and I think we are robbered for at least 500 CC for every weapon, food, aluminium mine, rubber plantation, fishery or hunting lodge we built before this update. I sent couple of tickets but nobody cares about it
After this update because I have many cattle and saltpeter companies I can have many workers:
Employees 36/229
With every change I do only thing I can do - I adjust to it...
...and I employed many workers I had over 150 workers and with new system you could as assign them any day you want and after few days I’ve got:
Employees assigned 0/293
Still you can rotate workers in Q6 companies 10 workers at the time and I realized that price of weapon raw is going down and I thought it would be a profitable to wait a few days to price of WRM drop by 25% or even more.
With this changes I could earn with one Q6 weapon company:
That was nice profit, over 11000 BRL per day
But with this change it would be stupid to have more than one Q6 company.Then we recieved new message of our lovely Plato:
He just warn us that we’ll have a little maintenance and nothing more. But after this maintenance owner of Q6 company have cap on 10 workers per day in one Q6 company and this mean that I could use my 293 employees that worked for me in my Q6 company in next 30 days.
This change is good change for economy, it’s normal that you have limit of 10 workers per Q6 company, that would give a point to build more than one Q6 company and prevent of rotation of workers...
...but the way they implement this changes without warning us is outrageous!
After this you could earn in Q6 weapon company with 10 workers:
This is maximum profit with 10 workers, around 3.8 gold per day with this low prices of weapon raw material.
But this “crisis” isn’t because of this changes with my places or limiting workers in one company, it’s because someone changed “someone’s” default prices.
We don’t need to call it “someone” anymore, we can call it market BOT because even co-founder of eRepublik Alexis Bonte in this interview admit that BOT exist and he said: “It's a balancing tool”.
What we know about BOT? (re-post from my article at day 1319)
What BOT actually do for the economy of the eWorld?
BOT buys products with fake currency and automatically that currency worth less because more currency on monetary market = less value in gold - BOT actually printing local currency from nothing and this (and work as manager) is the main reason that local currency in the eWorld worth 0.0025 gold - 2 year ago - average worth of local currencies was at least 5 times more than today.
Economy in this game now is finding at what price BOT is buying products - sad but true
What I’ve learnt about BOT ?
- BOT isn’t always turn on - sometimes doesn’t buy anything
- BOT sometimes buys just products with lower quality
- BOT buys in some countries more and in some less
- BOT is turned on more often in small countries - in large countries BOT buys sometimes only 10-15% larger price from minimal offer on marketplace
- BOT buys more raw materials and less finished products (around 50-100 Q6 weps and between 250-500 raw per hour)
- BOT is creating local currency from nothing
- BOT is very accurate, he buys products every 60 minutes - on 50th minute every hour (at 51st minute you have currency at your account)
- BOT is very generous - when you selling, he’ll buy your product at default price plus taxes (That why he bought my Q5 food in Indonesia for 7.30 IDR < 3.30 + import tax 99% + VAT 25%)
How much we were earning with working as manager before and after this changes:
You can see that price for WRM dropped from 0.28 BRL to 0.09 BRL in just few days and with same companies we were earning three times less
Earning 67 BRL per company when you work as manager is very much if you have many companies like me:
You can see that I was earning over 10.000 BRL less per day with this “crisis”. But I wouldn’t mind because I know what good consequences this crisis would have for eWorld economy.
Why prices are went down??
Reason is very simple, it’s not that BOT isn’t buying anymore, it’s because BOT is buying but he changed his “default price”.
Default price is that price you get in your storage when you try put some product on market.
Normal default price for Q1 food is 0.66, for Q2 food 1.32, for Q3 food 1.98, for Q4 food for 2.64, for Q5 food 3.30 and for Q6 food 3.96 CC in most countries of the eWorld.
Normal default price for Q1 wep is 6.60, for Q2 wep 13.20, for Q3 wep 19.80, for Q4 wep for 26.40, for Q5 wep 33.00 and for Q6 wep 39.60 CC in most countries of the eWorld.
Normal default price for food and wep raw material is 0.33 local currency.
From the invention of this BOT, this prices never been changed, but few days ago this “default BOT price” changed a lot and that is the main reason of this crisis.
BOT price in Brazil for food raw went down to 0.06 and for wep raw to 0.07 BRL and for Q6 wep for 20.60 BRL and that mean BOT wasn’t buying anything above this prices on marketplace. It’s normal that players cutting prices lower and lower but BOT wasn’t buying because still prices on marketplace were larger than his “default bot prices”.
I would be happy if the bot doesn’t exist, you can see on my example that just me would earn 10.000 BRL less, but that means that every single local currency would worth much more in the future and we’ll have again real economy in this game.
Players with many companies maybe are thinking that they would lose invested money but what if your local currency worth 0.005 gold in few months?? Then your returned money for dissolving cattle company = 4250 CC for 0.005 gold would be nice because it would be worth more than 20 gold which is much more than invested 8500 CC for 0.001 gold = 8.5 gold.
But I have a good news for you lazy players who are earning just from work as manager
Default BOT prices is back and you can earn a lot if you are buying products from market and sell it to BOT.
I’m selling WRM in Brazil for 0.2 BRL, lowest price on market is 0.13 BRL.
I’m selling WRM in Germany for 0.33 DEM, lowest price on market is 0.25 DEM.
I’m selling WRM in Columbia for 0.66 COP, lowest price on market is 0.31 COP.
I’m selling WRM in Chile for 0.35 CLP, lowest price on market is 0.24 CLP.
I’m selling WRM in Albania for 0.33 ALL, lowest price on market is 0.27 ALL.
Please don’t ask me where BOT is buying and exact price because you need to find a BOT and whole economy in this game is about finding a bot.
Just few advices:
1. Expect unexpected.
2. Buy from marketplace and sell to the BOT.
3. Don't stock too much products, because they can change the prices again.
4. If they lower the prices again stock currency because it will go up.
5. Don't build new companies now, wait until they do all the changes in economy module.
6. Don't upgrade wep and food companies, wait for 50% discount on upgrades
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Respect to all company owners in the eWorld
o7
HAIL BLUEROSE
Dose not take a genius to figure it out
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voted,we wait for the next big changes of Plato's game..
Meni Plato nije poslao nijednu od tih poruka.
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thank you for the info
Plato has a problem - there is a lot of players with bigger knowledge about economy than his teem, and doesn't have adequate answer to stop that players which are earning golds instead of buying them for RL money.
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Where is Bot buying and at what prices? : 3
Trololo : D
Nice as usual.
sad but true
'and whole economy in this game is about finding a bot.'
Sad, but true..
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cnews-por-que-n-atilde-o-sai--1961235/1/20
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"But every building you built with a gold before this update you built it on a land and that land cost you 1000 CC but after that update when you dissolve a building which you built for gold you’ll get only 50% of that amount of gold and that 50% of 1000 CC for a land is obviously disappeared and I think we are robbered for at least 500 CC for every weapon, food, aluminium mine, rubber plantation, fishery or hunting lodge we built before this update. I sent couple of tickets but nobody cares about it"
I wrote tickets about this as well, they just decided to ignore me :)
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Smetas deka valutata ke pocne da vredi povekje? Aj da vidime . . . Daj Boze
sve je to ok samo ja nevidim da je valuta pocela dobivati na cijeni,ustvari u vecini zemalja gubi na vrijednosti.............
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Not bad at all
kidas brate.. samo tako nastavi..
respect. awesome.
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Nice one Sokre o/
V great info
The economy module in this game is the most stupid thing I have seen in a game that braggs about being "the new world". The whole economy is down to this :"Find the bot prices"
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true... @giwrgos tho we all still playing it
Well done Dsokre o/
vote!
dobar...o/
Expect unexpected.
The most important advice in this game bro : ]
Voted.
s čime seti zamaraš...
vote o/
With every change I do only thing I can do - I adjust to it... o7
lud si kolko si pisao, ali svaka ti cast za ovo...svaki put iznenadis
Read it and voted it : )
Kill the bot!
as long as we have WaM we will have bot, it's alpha and omega, yin and yang, matter and anti-matter. everybody knows this but all are afraid to go back to the old system where it was impossible to be sufficient except for those who know real economy or cloners.
Dobar clanak kao i uvek, svaka cast
Amazing
Ofc voted
player is admins costumer
costumer is a king, can ask anything
but remember admin is a eGod, can do anything
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Plato is a hore...because Lemnaru told him to be one...
Vala imas visak vremena...
Meni dojadilo ganjati bota... Mislio sam da je on neko prijelazno razdoblje dok sam kretao u 'ekonomske vode', ali sada vidim da on nije prijelazno razdoblje. Izgleda da ce na kraju u ovoj igrici ostati jedino oni koji peglaju kartice i oni koji prave multice - kako je sve krenulo...
I lost 150 x 500 = 75,000 national currency only because land cost was included in company cost.
Votado
v, in the same time true and sad we got to adjust our sells to the random bot.
nem li mais votei
nem li mais votei tb
Eu li, gostei e votei!
resumindo a historia quem tem raw levou 500 brl de gorpe por empresa
Any thoughts on whether an ordinary upgrade from Q5 to Q6 companies will be introduced? I mean regular upgrade, not an upgrade offered for a limited period of time.
"and whole economy in this game is about finding a bot"
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Magnífico artículo!
Voted, thanks
Respect to all company owners in the eWorld
o7
Voted. We need to create an organization of Company owners Q5q6 owners or something
very nice!
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"With every change I do only thing I can do - I adjust to it..."
thats all we can do
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The main reason of this crisis is not the BOT.
The BOT is the solution (the worse solution possible)
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The main reason of this crisis is that Q6 companies cannot suck up anymore the resources made by managers.
By being unable to roll their companies, wages too will go down, until Q4, Q3 etc companies will have profit on their products. Their entry to the job market will stabilize it.
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But not the raws market: a Q4 weap company will use 33% LESS wraw for the "work" click done by a player as an employee (a Q3 will use 50% less). So if a lot of "works" will be done in Q3-Q4 companies, this means some 30-50% of the raws currently made will be useless.
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What we can do? Keep it or sell it cheaper. Maybe feed it to the bot.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/1959927/1/20
The main reason is WAM (a single player can produce about 20 times what another could consume). The Bot is just a consequence of WAM.
=> Admins should limit WAM to remove the Bot.
'and whole economy in this game is about finding a bot.'
Sad, but true.. *42
great article!
yes that what actually happening, some one from china told me yesterday that bot is back in business again.
Great Article !!
Free Lottery! Chance to win bread/weapon/money
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/i-039-m-back-for-another-free-event--1962084/1/20
dsokre rulzzz
good explain, voted
Thanks again for your explanations in this article:)
Voted and already subbed.
its just about the gold
buy the gold, make admin happy
thats it
The bots still buy large amounts of gold to maintain the price.
Otherways, the gold price should fall by 50%.
V1 Managa style \o BOTE!
You can see my ticket for the economy changes and the answer of the admins http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/just-a-ticket-to-the-admins-and-the-answer-edit--1960638/1/20
Zasto imam osecaj da si ti taj bot?
VoTeD
Good Job
You are the greatest player in this game.
a possible solution for CC's:
another BOT buying CC from monetary selling GOLD
:D:D
we want migration back!!!
plato senin ananıavradınısikeyimoçe amk sitesini adam gibi yapamadın hoşaf
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"I would be happy if the bot doesn’t exist, you can see on my example that just me would earn 10.000 BRL less, but that means that every single local currency would worth much more in the future and we’ll have again real economy in this game."
yep you're right but in the meanwhile a lot of pg that now with bot can train easily with gold boosters (at least 2 gold per day) will remain without strength bonuses once again after huge investiments in the economic module! 4 example i have invested a lot of money just becouse the ROI was scheduled in 130 days, but with these new prices it's about one year.
Admin needs to choice one (1) economic module and leave it unchanged (the v1 one was very good)
good job
Vote + shout
The main problem is that the developer team made the economy like this a year ago : market bot, overproduction, hundreds of raw companies. People get used to it, started to buy raw companies to make profit from the current state of the economy, spent thousands of gold in currency to build raws, because the weapon and food companies were much less profitable.
And now the developer team made a decision which fk-ed up the whole situation, 1/4-ed the profit from raw companies in 1 month.
This is doing harm with willingness, and amateurism nothing else.
The article is correct.
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I don't plan my companies, it makes it less depressing when Admin screw it all up : )
I see one bigger problem...
Why would anyone buy golds with RL money for upgrading companies, while daily income for q5 company is less than 1g?
You spend 400g for company, pay ~120e?
You need more than 400 days to recover that money! If you in the mean time don't spend anything xD Its far more better to just spend that gold on training, its 200 days of good training xD
If anyone upgrade company with this economy, well he is an idiot xD
Some changes are good, but some of them are just stupid... Unless they will introduce some more changes in next few days...
Anyone have some inside info? Insider maybe? : )
think autobot it
prijem
they didn't give back my money even for my free lands
i had 10 empty lands
thank you for this benefit article dSoKre
yea they gave me only 1 k for my 1 free lad, i didnt get any money 4 the others
More about the subject, with dSoKres article analysed: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/economy-in-turmoil-literature-review-and-analysis-1962370/1/20
Bravo, odusevljavas kao i uvek. o7
Pih, nema pljuvacine i medjunarodne netrpeljivosti
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ぎゅ～
+V+S
The financial crisis REALLY went bad. Congratulations ciganizacija.
Everything done here is about buying more gold with real money : /