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77 Day 616, 20:07 USA
( Title = takeoff of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU&feature=related )

The trite saying that history repeats itself has come back to bite America in the raw behind. Arrogance, blindness, over confidence and the backup plan called "Atlantis" was once the agenda of most, if not all, Americans during the time in which Peace and Atlantis were on the same playing field. However, while one was fallen, the other has been built up into the supersoldier of alliances, and America, along with Canada, is now feeling the ultimate backlash from unjustly started wars. Over the past few weeks many have asked themselves, at one point or another, what the cause of this downfall has been. Vengeance. Russia, Indonesia, and the rest of the Peace nations are holding an anti-imperialism festival over the Pacific coast, and it is only because of what has happened in France, Mexico, and Portugal. Past presidents, congressmen, and blind patriots are to blame, but America does not need to dwell in the past unless thinking of a solution to this priority 1 situation.

By declaring war against America, Peaceniks are saying that we need to learn how to sympathize. Past empathy about a country's homeland has been rather disgusting, spawning from French Toast, spreading to Operation Final Blow, and ending in the Declaration of War to Russia. America needs to realize that a homeland is just that - home, just as the admins put it. We cannot live in the constant present assuming that all is well with whatever we do. As I stated months ago, war is ultimate, but the way countries around the world have been acting, I am starting to question motives. What can this country expect if we do not change, if we do not observe that Peace is mimicking what we were doing for the past several months.

Surrendering is not the solution, but neither is continuing to spend hundreds and thousands of gold on this war. America needs change. Not administrative change, not congressional change, but national change. Think optimistically, but intelligently too. In real life as much as anything we have seen the fall of many great empires that have declined due to blind ambition and greed. This mindset has befell our great country as well, unfortunately, and this country's loss derives from the refusal to say "We were wrong." Though Peace may also be imperialistic, the actions deemed acceptable by America and their high figures have reached such odd, unethical standards that one has to wonder who here is right and who is wrong.

I know this is not the article many of you wanted me to write, but that article is on its way and will be published sometime in the first weeks of August. Until then, keep fighting, keep your chins up, and keep a level head. Because without fighting, this country will fall. Because without being optimistic, this country will fall. Because without being rational, we're no better than the goons.

<strong>~Bennjamin
</strong>

 
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Dark Blade
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Dark Blade Day 616, 20:08

FIRST VOTED

 
GLaDOS
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GLaDOS Day 616, 20:08

first

 
Dark Blade
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Dark Blade Day 616, 20:08

OWNED GLADOS OWNED

 
GLaDOS
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GLaDOS Day 616, 20:08

FFF

 
JeepAmerica
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JeepAmerica Day 616, 20:10

Perfect. We made mistakes in the past, but it's time for us to move past those and win this war!

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:10

--country's loss derives from the refusal to say "We were wrong." ---

You said it brother.. A message that nobody wanted to hear...
Well, it continues to look like the price of that arrogance will be
the loss of a nation.

Anybody remember the movie Red Dawn? Yeah, that's the future of eAmerica. - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn</a>

 
Bill Brasky
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Bill Brasky Day 616, 20:10

DOVERMAXXXXX

 
JeepAmerica
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JeepAmerica Day 616, 20:10

look at the trolls feast...

 
Benn Dover
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Benn Dover Day 616, 20:10

wasn't intended to be an overtly nationalistic article, I was aiming for a practical one. Practical comments please also?

 
Harrison Richardson
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Harrison Richardson Day 616, 20:10

I agree with every word here. Americans, learn to be humble.

 
JeepAmerica
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JeepAmerica Day 616, 20:11

Red Dawn rocked Alby, I heard their making a new one.

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 20:12

Benn , I have to say , this is an amazing article , it makes me so happy that You of all people have opened their eyes , all Americans should look to you and then look to themselves and look for change .

 
Longbaugh
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Longbaugh Day 616, 20:13

Awesome article. Voted. Finally, someone is telling it like it is. And, unlike if it came from me or a thousand others... Americans will actually listen to YOU.

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:13

JeepA: This is the remake.. eUSA is the new Red Dawn remake.. lol
The Enemy is parachuting in and taking over state after state...

 
Benn Dover
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Benn Dover Day 616, 20:17

Thank you, yyy. I just hate to see my home country get ripped apart just because we can't see that we've made mistakes.

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:18

Blame the Congress of Arrogant Socialist who think they know it all..

DEATH TO THE USWP...

 
Kenneth Sutton
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Kenneth Sutton Day 616, 20:20

Great Article...same thing I been saying.

 
Benn Dover
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Benn Dover Day 616, 20:20

Not exactly what I meant Alby

 
Jamarcus
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Jamarcus Day 616, 20:20

Benn Dover for President!

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:20

Down to 39 Regions with a few more that will be gone before the Sunrise.

Nearly a 1/4th of the nation has been lost, along with the Economic powerhouse of California. Guess what's next? Texas. Indos are heading in that direction, its obvious.

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:22

I'd agree.. Benn Dover for Prez... America needs REAL leadership.

 
Kyle321n
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Kyle321n Day 616, 20:22

Alby: 1 USD = 1 GOLD Never forget

Benn, I've missed and I knew you believed in a thing called love

Great article, agreed, blah, blah, blah.

 
Enoch Root
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Enoch Root Day 616, 20:24

Thank you for writing this. There are a number of people that knew this was the case but would not shout it to everyone because of the way we would be alienated.

 
Emerick
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Emerick Day 616, 20:24

Posting in a Dover article

 
Arthk
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Arthk Day 616, 20:25

cool article

 
Zoli
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Zoli Day 616, 20:33

If I would have written this article people would have called it propaganda. I felt a tear gather in my left eye while I was readin it. Really moving article, hope people will listen to you.

 
Joseph Schmo
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Joseph Schmo Day 616, 20:33

Who the hell has denied the U.S. has been wrong in the past? You have to be rather idiotic to do that

 
Michael Collins
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Michael Collins Day 616, 20:34

Good article. Unfortunately 3 months of scrabman made PEACE hate the USA

 
Arthk
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Arthk Day 616, 20:36

>Who the hell has denied the U.S. has been wrong in the past? You have to be rather idiotic to do that

90% of americans that PMed me last month. I did try to explain some of them something about the past, but they normally would call me nazi.

Oh well

 
Blue Holt
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Blue Holt Day 616, 20:41

Great..

 
Joseph Schmo
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Joseph Schmo Day 616, 20:41

Oh Arthk I know who you speak of. The 90% of Americans who are like "ZOMG AMERICA CAN DO NO WRONG! PEACE FAIL! HEIL SCRABMAN! AMERICA, $%*# YEAH!"

Yeah, I hate them

For the record I fought tooth and nail (well, as much as I could considering my position in the gov't at the time) to stop us from attacking FER. People really should listen to me more

Oh well.

 
Korin Dethanos
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Korin Dethanos Day 616, 20:42

Sure, the US was over-confident. Sure, we made mistakes. However, I find the idea that our attacks were unjust or morally wrong laughable. This is a strategy game. We tried to expand our territory. There is nothing wrong with that.

 
GLaDOS
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GLaDOS Day 616, 20:44

>People really should listen to me more
Story of my life joseph

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 20:45

>We tried to expand our territory
Correction , you tried to take another mans land .

 
Korin Dethanos
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Korin Dethanos Day 616, 20:47

"Correction , you tried to take another mans land ."

Um, yeah. That's usually how you expand in most strategy games. It wouldn't take much strategy to expand into unoccupied territory.

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:54

"Unfortunately 3 months of scrabman made PEACE hate the USA"
-Michael Collins


Somebody frame that quote..
...and of of Scrabby's backers should be blacklisted from Government.

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 20:54

You tried to take another mans land , so now you are being punished for it . Plain and simple .

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 20:56

3hrs till everybody gets a Passport identifying their home country.

 
Korin Dethanos
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Korin Dethanos Day 616, 21:01

"You tried to take another mans land , so now you are being punished for it . Plain and simple ."

Punished? We're losing territory in a game because we were over-confident and made too many enemies. No immorality. No punishment. Just a game.

 
Benn Dover
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Benn Dover Day 616, 21:02

"This is a strategy game. We tried to expand our territory. There is nothing wrong with that."

Funny, because the strategy of taking someone else's land eventually lead to our home land being taken.

Lrn2DiplomaticRelations

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 21:04

Okay well , let me put this in words you can understand ,
You tried to pwn some one , you failed , they came back , now you're getting pwned .

 
Emerick
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Emerick Day 616, 21:07

Well Korin, actual people live in these actual countries. As much as you might not like it, there is an emotional attachment. I learned this in the CanAm war, more than a year ago. It blew my mind, but now I finally understand it, seeing our states fall into Peace hands.

 
Dark Blade
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Dark Blade Day 616, 21:08

hi benn excellent article. Come back

 
Armandez
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Armandez Day 616, 21:09

Our wars were started by a long chain of less than satisfactory Presidents, Scrabman was the exception of those Presidents. Congress is to blame as well, as collective entity and not individuals. As individuals most Congress(wo)men are fine individuals but put together, like all politicians bad things are thought up and created.

Benn this isn't PEACE's way of saying ANYTHING. This them continuing their long chain of wars they justify by saying we started. Atlantis was created to counter the threat of PEACE. That alone says that PEACE started this. Just like their founders, the Goons, their power will wane. They will fade and PEACE will just become a part of eRepublik History like the Goons and Atlantis. As I said, everything EVERYTHING is finite. The end shall come to everything.

 
Korin Dethanos
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Korin Dethanos Day 616, 21:13

"Funny, because the strategy of taking someone else's land eventually lead to our home land being taken." -BD

"Okay well , let me put this in words you can understand ,
You tried to pwn some one , you failed , they came back , now you're getting pwned ." -ytv

Are we reading the same conversation? I acknowledged that the US was over-confident. I acknowledged that the US made mistakes. The only thing I took issue with is the idea that this is some kind of moral issue. Neither of your replies addressed that.

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 21:13

Seems like the end of America may come first ...

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 21:15

>Neither of your replies addressed that.
Emerick did that vair well ...

 
Alby
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Alby Day 616, 21:19


Bad News For Spain. America will (NEVER) be able to repay that 2000/Gold loan President HR took out. Well, unless the Crazy Congress decides to just jack tax rates up to 50% or something. lol

<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/109501/contract-between-the-united-states-and-spain/1#post1179269" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/[..]9269</a>

Terms
* 1. Amount to be lent
o Spain shall lend 2000 Gold to the United States of America.
* 2. Guarantee of Payment
o The United States shall repay Spain within 3 months, after this 3 months the loan will be automatically renewed every month for one month more if none of the current Presidents say the contrary.
+should the United States not have paid the full amount due within the specified period, this contract authorizes the Administrator of eRepublik to remove such funds as neccesary to repay the debt, plus a 20% penalty, from the country account or the following organizations:
1. Congressional Budget Office
(http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1384821)
2. Fort Knox Federal Reserve
(http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1301944)
* 3. This contract shall go into affect upon the approval of the Congresses of both countries, and the signatures of their respective Presidents.
o Harrison Richardon for the United States
o Lola Moreno for Spain

/SIGNED/

Lola Moreno
President of Spain

 
yyytttvvv
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yyytttvvv Day 616, 21:22

>America will (NEVER) be able to repay that 2000/Gold loan President HR took out.
Lulz , unless they take 2000 gold from Romania , xD!

 
Daizengar
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Daizengar Day 616, 21:31

Beeeeenn long time no see, join IRC again please ^^ erepindo

 
Gabriel Valentine
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Gabriel Valentine Day 616, 21:31

if eAmerican realize this then my goal fighting the eUSA is accomplished.

good luck eUSA.

 
Frostcorp
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Frostcorp Day 616, 21:32

I just don't see why the fact that America attacked France, Portugal or Mexico in the pas would be considered a bad thing, this is a war game, it's simple as that, being peaceful and all isn't the best way to play this game at all, the eUK could easily tell you that, my point is that you guys wanted to fight some wars because that's what this game is about, and it's not like you fought an unbalanced war and just attacked small countries with no defence, you attacked countries with MPP's, countries that did manage to defend themselves, so you attacked because this game asks you to attack someone once in a while, the difference between you and PEACE is that PEACE only attacked back when they clearly outnumbered and outpowered us.

 
Korin Dethanos
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Korin Dethanos Day 616, 21:32

@Emerick, Interesting argument, but we didn't attack actual countries. We attacked in-game regions based on actual countries. If people have some emotional attachment to those regions, we're not responsible for their issues.

I don't understand this attachment. Seeing our regions fall to PEACE doesn't bother me any more than losing ground in any other game. I'm disappointed, but I don't feel that PEACE has wronged me.

 
Frostcorp
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Frostcorp Day 616, 21:40

and it's not like you had a lot of countries to choose from to attack.. you attacked who you could, all this emotions-moral i'm going to cry stuff is just... i just find it BS to be honest. This is a game, a war game, it's not real life, it's not a place where people die and families get ripped apart, it's not a place where houses explode and people go suicidal on other people, it's just a game where, if you're powerful enough, you try to expand your territory to get some regions/resources, PEACE is doing the exact same thing, they're not doing it for the MORAL of the story, they're doing it because this game needs a war, if everybody would just stay in their original borders and attack nobody else because ITS NOT MORAL AND IT RIPS SOULS APART, i would quit this game as it would become very very VERY boring.

 
LexLuthor1
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LexLuthor1 Day 616, 21:58

Shut up alby ..guy writes a thoughtful article and you show your lack of class and general dickishness once again. just go away. really just go away. lol

 
Chicco
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Chicco Day 616, 22:00

Yeah let's permanently suspend the war module! No more unjust wars! No more acts of righteous vengeance! No more international terrorist organizations! Wow, what a brilliant idea!

 
Emerick
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Emerick Day 616, 22:04

>Our wars were started by a long chain of less than satisfactory Presidents, Scrabman was the exception of those Presidents.

scrabman wasn't a really great president, either. His budget had way too much spending in it, which appeased the military, but it wasn't forward-thinking. If we had saved more, maybe 25% more, we'd have a lot more money right now. He also helped to instill a sense of overconfidence.

Korin, just because you don't understand emotional attachments in the game doesn't invalidate them.

 
Harrison Richardson
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Harrison Richardson Day 616, 22:57

If we didn't save we'd be in even worse shape.. our military would still be terrible like it was a handful of months ago. Now, it's decent/good.

 
gonzo23
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gonzo23 Day 617, 00:30

Ben Dover for president!

 
Daizengar
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Daizengar Day 617, 03:03

Hail Benn Dover !! even eIndonesia Respect you

 
Alby
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Alby Day 617, 03:46

"Now, it's decent/good."
-President Harrison Richardson


>> Not Good Enough for the battle at hand. Should bought more Q5 DSes, Stockpiled more Q5 Weapons, Gifts, etc... Should built more alliances than letting Atlantis dissolve. Double check your assessment. I think your glasses are the wrong prescription.



@LexLoser:

Free Speech doesn't go over well when you point out the glaring
failures of your decisions. Does it? lol When all you can say
is "shut up", it shows you lack facts to debate the pro's of your
argument. You are right, this is a great article. It just about says
the US Congress and Presidents have been a disaster. And still you
refuse to admit failure. Cmon buddy, repeat after me, "I, LexLoser,
have made stupid decisions and wish I would have listen to Alby." lol

 
naya
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naya Day 617, 04:33

great article! V+S

 
John Bokinski
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John Bokinski Day 617, 04:53

Interesting article Ben, which shows ability to look at the eWorld outside the normal nationalistic perspective.

Its interesting how important, the notion of a country is still so important even in such a imaterial reality and how our inability to undertsand different perspectives is so embeded in our DNA that it also reflects itself as part of our behaviour in a virtual world.

Will this war change this. Probably not. Probably things will get even more focus on our Nation rather than our ideas, but btw war was never a good influence when trying to take good decisions

 
Alby
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Alby Day 617, 05:28


PEACE will not likely consider a Peace offer until the United States is rendered impotent and unable to raise a large Army, nor fund one, in the future.

That Means Texas is Gone, Arkansas is Gone. Tennessee is Gone, and other High value, resource rich areas that could fund a beating down nation back to glory will be taken. Once America is rendered helpless will PEACE likely halt the war.

 
Grakulan
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Grakulan Day 617, 05:29

I don't want to hear even 1 bad word about Uncle Sam or Scrabman from any PEACE GC citizen - the people who opened 2 huge floodgates into eUSA and wasted a mountain of gold on foreign missions of little benefit to the eUSA deserve only praise and gratitude from us. I already sent a "thank you" note to Scrabman when the liberation of North America started.

Surrendering really is not an option (for many reasons). If you can't handle this fight PEACE will have to split in two and send you reinforcements. In the meantime put taxes at 99% and sell war bonds! You don't have to worry about tomorrow if there's no tomorrow

 
Uncle Sam
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Uncle Sam Day 617, 08:51

grakulan, I hope you realize that my war on Mexico really has nothing to do with our countries current situation, so you're wrong in saying that I opened a major flood gate. Understand that Benn opened the wars of France and Portugal, and Justinious was the one who attacked Portugal.

Also, I spent 431 gold to fight PEACE in a foreign war, Scrabman spent 5K gold to liberate one region from Turkey. Both operations were successful, but you tell me who did a worse job in preserving America's interests, because I obviously spent a "mountain" of gold

 
Chisholm
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Chisholm Day 617, 10:55

lrn2humble

 
Smirnoff
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Smirnoff Day 617, 14:23

Great Article, Benn.

I always said that Scrabman's war on Russia was a big mistake. Now USA has to bite the bullet.

 
Kaiten
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Kaiten Day 617, 15:12

It's not America, it's USA.
America, if you do not know what continent you are from, is constitued of many countries, including the USA. And is divided itself in two part, north and south linked together by Mexico.
America isn't even all allied with the USA, as some countries are part of PEACE.
USA is NOT America. America is NOT USA.
USA is PART of America. I would like it better if USA was not so arrogant as to think of them as representing the whole continent.

 
ItsMeYoshi
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ItsMeYoshi Day 617, 17:38

Great Article! I was beggining to doubt anything useful could come on the eMerican media, since all i see, with all due respect, is nationalistic crap (all countries have their fair amount of it).

Been, you asked for practicality, then I'll tell you something practical, and i do this in all good faith just to have a decent discussion, even though i'm a "PEACE troll" or however you wanna call me: the US is doing to it's allies what it did to itself, making them open several wars with a bunch of incredibly dangerous MPPs just to save your arse and block countries like France for a single day...

eUSA isn't done with yet, theres a lot of war to come, but yes you are paying for the mistaskes of the past, and if you fall using your allies like this, the same will happen to them, and they will pay for you.

Not saying you shouldn't take your allies help, i mean, come on that would be stupid, not suggesting you dont renew any MPPs lol, but might wanna re-think the whole blocking strategy? so fair its been total fail...

 
Jiosen
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Jiosen Day 617, 18:25

Agreed. We're too arrogant sometimes. I believe we can be more than just a nation of blind, patriotic warmongers. Let's unite, drive PEACE from our lands and seek to rectify our ways for a better future!

 
Ingo Castilho
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Ingo Castilho Day 617, 19:51

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Or
patriotswing Day 618, 17:11

I sell q1 weapons at 0.2 gold per piece. contact me if interested

 
draconins
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draconins Day 618, 20:56

Glad that, at least I see more realistic people in USA not just blinded by blind patriotism or fascism.

The only people of USA which I knew as realistic and understand the mechanic of the game are only Emerick and Benn. Wish that Benn's previous presidency as realistic as you are now, not a provoking one as the actual past which is a source of flood in your country....

Greetings from an ordinary citizen of Indonesia.

 
joey1601
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joey1601 Day 630, 14:30

benn, sadly alby is right! we need a stronger governement, and one that doesnt plan a surrender! Benn Dover for president

 
grace
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grace Day 631, 01:51

Listen to Benn Dover, he is right. Listen to his article and you will become strong enemies for us again. We need revenge, don't disappoint us. Voted!

 
Roflolmao
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Roflolmao Day 656, 23:40

Darn it! You got banned before you posted the article. Curse you.