Join the new world

Po slovenski izdaji je prišel čas, da pogledamo in pretehtamo, kaj smo naredili. Ali je naša okupacija zgolj zaradi naše premoči upravičena in ali je možno, da tako Švica kot Slovenija obojestransko profitirata z morebitnim dogovorom. Izbral sem si švicarskega sogovornika, natančneje eŠvicarja, ki je nastanjen v tej državi zaradi želje, da pomaga skupnosti in se ob igranju zabava. Za slovensko skupnost bi lahko pogled morebitnega bodočega predsednika eŠvice odprl oči marsikateremu skeptiku, kar je po eni strani tudi cilj tega intervjuja. Da prenehamo z ignoranco in igranjem malih diktatorjev z erekcijo. Dogovor je možen, če je le želja prisotna.

Can you introduce yourself?
Hello, I'm Thedillpickl. I am a newer Swiss citizen. Originally I started playing almost three years ago as a US citizen. I was very involved in politics there but I became boring so me and several of my MU mates moved to Switzerland for a change. My MU, Pickle's Patriots has now completely moved here since the game mechanics have allowed this without changing citizenship. We are becoming very involved in Swiss politics and that brings us to why I am here talking to Howly.

Can you tell us more about eSwitzerland? How does your community work, what is the prime goal?
Well, I do not intend to give you state secrets! 🙂

Seriously, we just want to build our community. When I arrived the Swiss forum was turned off and there was little activity. We began to get involved and now there is a core of people that would like to build. That requires simple things like a government and perhaps a region to call home.

Why do you think Slovenia is occupying Switzerland and how is the problem to be solved in your opinion?
I realize this is a touchy subject. I will be careful to use soft words. The Slovenian occupation is for two reason. First we have a couple of regions that benefit your bonus. Second I believe that it is a matter of Slovenian pride to dominate us. If it were possible to get past the "We are bigger than you so we will control you." then it would be easier to talk. Swiss have a perception of Slovenia as a bully that takes our regions like a schoolyard bully would take a sandwich. Both countries are taking this a bit too personal in my opinion. The simple fact is Slovenia is bigger, stronger and belongs to an alliance with more firepower.

Don't you think this unresolved status of Switzerland is the fault of both sides?
Yes, the diplomacy does seem to fail us both. Like I mentioned, it is almost like two children pushing each other back and forth. Nothing will be resolved unless a more adult attitude can be taken. I am speaking with you today so that we can have a simple dialog to see if differences can be resolved. That may lead to some form of mutually satisfying agreement.

Is it possible to have a win-win situation? Meaning both sides benefit from the possible agreement that has been mentioned?
Of course. I understand that Switzerland comes with little bargaining power other that the fact that we can be a pain in the ass to Slovenia. Everyone knows that at present there is no chance that we could RW a region and hold it long.

Can you present your view on solving this problem?
We have to first recognize that each party has contested the sovereignty of Switzerland. I have heard the stories of how there are only two real life Swiss, one is eDead and the other two clicks in Croatia. lol

I could be considered PTO but I am interested in helping those that are already in charge. There are very few real Swiss about. If the non Swiss left there would be no country. I consider this a mute point to contend. The next step would be the basis that the recent NAP agreement addressed. Obviously it is to your advantage to have our two regions for your bonus. That brings us lastly to the compensation that would allow Swiss to hold the remaining two regions. Some Slovenians may say a ridiculous sum. Some Swiss may even say you should pay us. Both views are unrealistic. Some middle ground must be found that is sustainable by Swiss government to produce.

Would it be wrong to assume that having no mutual agreement hurts mostly Switzerland while Slovenia is not affected? We only lose some potential money compensation for not letting you have the 2 regions.
Really it is simple if you consider we recognize Slovenia is stronger and all we want is to have a congress. Not too much else to talk about but the money. 🙂

Understand that I am by nature a protective and territorial person. I do not mean to be provocative when I say that I would make it my job to get in Slovenia's face at every opportunity. I was only one person fighting in the recent battle over Vorarlberg but I did invest in a considerable amount of EB's. I also have a few connections with US tanks that are personal friends. They can be counted on for some damage if they are free. Please know I do not mean to threaten, merely point out the opportunity to cause trouble is there. I hope I didn't say too much.

While it wouldn't be wrong to assume we are the moral losers in not wanting a deal that would mutually benefit both of the countries, right?
Well, the central issue to me is that, for the most part, all Switzerland wants to do is play the game. If an agreement is made that for the two regions we give some amount of compensation and do not attack or fight against Slovenia, in my opinion it is worth the cost. This would not make us friends per se but it would free up both parties to do other things. The RW war thing is boring and I've only been Swiss six months or so.

It must be mentioned that Slovenians are part of TWO, while you are part of CoT. How do you think that reflects our cooperation?
This is a bit past alliances. I would make no provision in the agreement to prevent either party from fighting for their alliance, just not directly against each other. The scary part for me is that Poland is all over to the north of Switzerland. I would assume they have bigger fish to fry and could not care less about wiping us. If people in either country have a problem with the alliances they are worrying about trivial things while playing a browser game. Get real, we are tired of the RW fighting and want something different.

Who do you lay your hopes on to bring change to the way things are being dealt nowadays?
To be honest I know little of Slovenian politics. I would hope the various factions there would see the benefits and cooperate to keep the peace. As far as Swiss I am cautious to say anything but will say this much, I intend to run for CP if for no other reason than to show how a CP should respond internationally. I do not mean to be arrogant. However I have done enough politics in eRep to understand that things are done a certain way. Haphazard actions, slow or missing communications and a cabinet that does their own thing are not acceptable. In short the BS will stop if I'm elected.

Would your country be willing to leave CoT if demanded so in peace terms and in return getting sovereignty?
Wow! Thats like asking if it would be alright to cut off my arms and legs in return for my life. To be plain that would be a deal breaker.

If peace talks fail, what would be the next step for you?
For me personally I'm a bit tired of it all. As long as my MU mates enjoy Switzerland I can hole up in the MU and do stuff. It is more difficult but not impossible to work with new players (which is really what I like to do). As for Switzerland I will be profoundly honest. They will likely continue to do the RW war, get wiped, pout, rinse, repeat. If the opportunity presents itself I would be in favor of wiping Slovenia just for the fun of it. Of course that would require me to win the lottery. 😃

Where does Switzerland get the required finances to start and fight in all of the RWs?
Visa & Master Card. We have some people that have some cash. Mostly though funds are from bought gold.

Do you think we can make a joint conclusion that an agreement would be beneficial for both sides, even if Slovenia is the one with absolute dominance? Freedom in exchange for financial compensation whilst enabling you to have "normal community" going on at least sounds fair enough from our side. Currently we are acting like little dictators with an erection.
Oh absolutely. I know there are countries out their that have wiped and PTO the shit out of their neighbors for years. Bolivia is an example. In my early days I moved their and tried to help. Argentina and Brazil just won't let go. The few Bolivians there are are in Peru, or they used to be.

Anything else you would like to add for the readers?
Personally I would get bored. What is the fun in doing the same thing everyday you log in? It is like playing solitaire all day.

I kindly thank Thedilpickl for taking the time to answer the set questions.

Best regards,
Ice Killa aka Howly
________________________________________________________________
[SLO]


Se lahko na kratko predstaviš?
Pozdravljeni, sem Thedillpickl. Sem eden izmed novejših v eŠvici. Originalno sem začel igrati pred skoraj tremi leti kot državljan ZDA. Tam sem bil aktiven udeleženec politične sfere, ampak je postalo dolgočasno, zato smo se jaz in nekaj mojih kolegov iz moje vojaške enote odločili, da se preselimo v Švico. Moja vojaška enota Pickle's Patriots je sedaj v celoti nastanjena tukaj, ker nam je bilo to omogočeno s strani igre brez menjave državljanstev. Postajamo del švicarske politike in prav zato se danes pogovarjam tukaj s Howlyjem.

Nam lahko poveš več o eŠvici? Kako deluje vaša skupnost, kaj je vaš glavni cilj?
No ja, državnih skrivnosti ne mislim izdajat! 🙂

Ampak resno, hočemo samo zgraditi našo skupnost. Ko sem prišel, švicarski forum ni deloval in je bilo skorajda nič aktivnosti. Postali smo udeleženi in trenutno je neko jedro ljudi, ki bi radi gradili na tem. Slednje pa zahteva osnovne reči, kot je vlada in recimo kakšna regija, ki jo lahko okličemo dom.

Zakaj meniš, da Slovenija okupira Švico in kako je problem rešljiv po tvojem mnenju?
Zavedam se, da je to občutljiva tema. Potrudil se bom, da bom uporabil nežne besede. Slovenska okupacija je zaradi dveh razlogov. Prvič zato, ker imamo nekaj regij, ki pripomorejo k vaši kolekciji bonusov. Drugič pa zaradi občutka ponosa, da dominirate nad nami. Če bi bilo mogoče preiti prek "Smo večji od vas, zato vas bomo kontrolirali.", potem bi bil dogovor precej lažji. Švicarji imajo mišljenje o Sloveniji kot o nasilnežu, ki vzema naše regije, torej podobno kot šolski nasilnež, ki jemlje malice. Obe državi jemljeta omenjeno preveč osebno, vsaj takšnega mnenja sem. Preprosto dejstvo je, da je Slovenija večja, močnejša in pripada zavezništvu, ki ima večjo moč.

Mar misliš, da je trenutna situacija Švice krivda obeh strani?
Da, diplomacija nas je oboje pustila na cedilu. Kot sem že omenil, podobno kot dva otroka, ki se prerivata gor in dol. Nič ne bo razrešeno, če se ne pogovorimo kot odrasli. S teboj govorim danes, da imamo preprost dialog, da vidimo, ali se razlike da prebrodit. Slednje pa lahko vodi v morebiten medsebojno sprejemljiv dogovor.

Je mogoče imeti win-win situacijo? Torej da bi obe strani profitirali pri morebitnem dogovoru?
Seveda. Povsem razumem, da Švica nima prav dosti za ponudit v zameno Sloveniji z izjemo tega, da smo lahko večna nadležnost. Vsi se zavedajo, da trenutno preprosto ni mogoče, da bi osvobodili regijo in jo držali dlje časa.

Lahko predstaviš svoj pogled, kako razrešiti problem?
Prvo kot prvo moramo priznati, da sta se obe strani spopadli glede suverenosti Švice. Slišal sem zgodbe, da zgolj dva Švicarja iz RL igrata eRepublik, eden je mrtev, drugi pa igra za Hrvaško. lol

Lahko bi me smatrali kot del PTOja, a vendar sem zainteresiran pri pomaganju tistim, ki so že na oblasti. Švicarjev je sicer zares malo. Če bi ne-Švicarji odšli, potem ne bi bilo več države. Omenjeno smatram kot irelevanten argument. Naslednji korak bi bil zgrajen na osnovi nedavnega NAP dogovora. Več kot očitno je vam v prednost, da imate dve izmed naših regij za bonus. Kar pa nas na koncu pripelje do kompenzacije, ki bi omogočila Švici, da bi imela preostali dve regiji. Nekateri Slovenci bodo morda zahtevali smešne vsote denarja. Nekateri Švicarji bodo rekli, da morate vi plačati nam. Oba pogleda sta nerealistična. Poiskati moramo neko srednjo pot, ki je sprejemljiva za obe strani.

Bi bilo napačno sklepati, da blokada dogovora škodi predvsem Švici, medtem ko Sloveniji pač ne? Mi izgubimo zgolj potencialen dotok dodatnega denarja, ker vam ne pustimo željeni regiji.
Res je preprosto, če se zavemo, da je Slovenija močnejša in mi hočemo le kongres. Ni kaj drugega za diskutirati kot o denarju. 🙂

Razumite, da sem po naravi zelo protektiven in teritorialen osebek. Ne mislim provocirati, ko rečem, da bi "skakanje v obraz Sloveniji" naredil za mojo službo, ko bi to le bilo mogoče. Bil sem edini, ki se je boril v nedavni bitki za Voralberg, ampak sem pa investiral precejšnje vsote čokoladk. Imam tudi nekaj povezav z ameriškimi tankerji, ki so med drugim osebni prijatelji. Lahko računam na njih, če so prosti. Ne grozim, samo nakazujem, da je možnost povzročanja težav tukaj. Upam, da nisem napisal preveč.

Na drugi strani pa ne bi bilo napačno reči, da smo mi moralni poraženci, ker nočemo dogovora, ki bi bil v obojestransko korist tako Sloveniji kot Švici, je tako?
Glavni problem z mojega vidika je, da v večinskem delu Švica zgolj hoče igrati igro. Če je sklenjen dogovor, kjer prepustite dve regiji, in mi v zameno plačamo kompenzacijo in ne napadamo ali se borimo proti Sloveniji, potem je vredno. Seveda nas to ne bi naredilo prijatelje, ampak bi sprostilo obe strani, da počneta druge stvari. Uporniške vojne so dolgočasne in v Švici sem zdaj šele 6 mesecev, nekaj takšnega.

Potrebno je omenit, da smo Slovenci del TWO, vi ste del CoT. Kako misliš, da se to odraža na našem sodelovanju?
To niti ni toliko povezano z zavezništvi. V dogovoru ne bi dal nikakršnega pogoja, ki bi preprečil katerikoli strani, da bi se borila za svoje zavezništvo, zgolj direkten spopad med nami bi preprečil. Zastrašujoča je predvsem prisotnost Poljske na severu. Sklepam, da imajo večje tarče, s katerimi se ukvarjajo, in jih milo rečeno briga za nas, torej da bi nas izbrisali. Če imajo ljudje v Sloveniji ali Švici problem z zavezništvi, potem se ubadajo s trivialnimi rečmi, medtem ko igrajo browser igro. Zbudite se, utrujeni smo od RW borb, hočemo nekaj drugega.

Na koga polagaš upe, da bo spremenil stvari na bolje?
Če sem iskren, ne vem veliko o slovenski politiki. Upal bi le, da določene frakcije uvidijo pozitivne efekte in bi sodelovale, da ohranimo mir. Kot Švicar sem previden, ampak bom rekel le toliko, da nameravam kandidirat za predsednika. Predvsem da pokažem, kako bi se moral predsednik odzvati mednarodno. Nočem izpasti aroganten. S politiko sem se v eRepubliku ukvarjal dovolj dolgo, da vem, kako je potrebno izvesti določene reči. Nenačrtne poteze, počasne in pomanjkljive komunacije in kabinet, ki počne stvari na lastno pesto, niso sprejemljivi. Na kratko, sranje se bo prenehalo, če bom izvoljen.

Bi bila tvoja država pripravljena zapustiti CoT, če bi bilo od vas tako zahtevano v mirovnih pogovorih v zameno za suverenost?
Wow! To je, kot bi rekel, če je v redu, da mi odsekaš roke in noge v zameno za življenje. To bi uničilo potencialen dogovor.

Če mirovni pogovori spodletijo, kaj potem?
Jaz osebno sem utrujen od vsega. Dokler moji prijatelji v vojaški enoti uživajo v Švici, potem se lahko zasidram v enoti in počnem raznorazne reči. Težje, ampak ni nemogoče, je delati z novimi igralci (v čemer uživam). Kar se tiče Švice, bom pa iskren. Verjetno bodo nadaljevali z uporniškimi vojnami, bodo izbrisani, se nato šobili, in ponavljali ta postopek. Če se ponudi priložnost, sem za to, da se izbriše Slovenije zaradi same zabave. Seveda bi pa to zahtevalo, da zmagam na loteriji. 😃

Kje Švica dobi potrebne finance, da začne in se bori v vseh uporniških vojnah?
Visa & Master Card. Imamo ljudi, ki imajo denar. Večina financ izvira iz kupljenega golda.

Meniš, da lahko pridemo do skupnega zaključka, da bi bil dogovor dober za obe strani, čeprav je Slovenija tista z absolutno dominanco? Suverenost v zameno za finančno kompenzacijo poleg omogočanja "normalne skupnosti", se sliši najmanj pravično z naše strani. Trenutno se obnašamo kot majhni diktatorji z erekcijo.
Absolutno. Vem, da so države, ki so izbrisale in naredile PTO svojih sosed, ki traja že nekaj let. Bolivija kot primer. V začetnih dneh sem se preselil tja in poskusil pomagati. Argentina in Brazilija preprosto ne bosta spustila primata nad Bolivijo. Peščica Bolivijcev je sedaj v Peruju, oziroma so bili.

Bi rad sporočil še karkoli drugega bralcem?
Osebno bi mi postalo dolgčas. V čem je smisel ponavljanja ene in iste reči vsak dan? Kot da bi igral solitaire cel dan.

Iskreno se zahvaljujem Thedilpicklu, da si je vzel čas in odgovoril na moja vprašanja.

Lepo vas pozdravljam,
Ice Killa aka Howly