[CP] Nap Proposal with eSpain. VOTE HERE.
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by Oinyo
Good day. As there were issues with the last survey a new one is being put up with checks in place.
Please read EVERYTHING bellow before you vote. Do not blindly vote from what you hear. Read and make up your own mind.
**** THE VOTE ENDS SAT BUT PLEASE NOTE IT MAY TAKE ME UNTIL NIGHT TO GET HOME AND POST RESULTS ****
NAP PROPOSAL
1-eSpain will have Newfoundland & Labrador, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Nova Scotia. eCanada will have the other nine regions.
(This means that they will no longer fight us on 9 of the 13 provinces they hold of ours. The will keep the above ones with NS being the forth one that we can switch around to another province)
2- Neither eSpain nor eCanada will fight on the resistance side in any RW on those four regions. eCanada will ask its allies not to fight for the resistance side.
(Players can and are expected to RW.. Both sides know this cannot be stopped. What we cannot do is ask for help from our allies or organize anything related to these RW's.. So no battle of the day going to a RW)
3- All the regions will be back through RWs, no direct attacks. eSpain will coordinate the liberation of this regions through RWs.
(eSpain will help us get the lands back. We cannot afterwards go attacking eSpain is what they are getting at.)
4- This NAP is subject to monthly renewals by the CPs of both countries.
(This is a month by month thing. If things are not working out either of us can choose not to renew and they will just rewipe us again.)
Common questions I am getting.
How much gold/CAD this time? = None.. There is no money involved. We just get 9 land back and have to promise not to launch an invasion into eSpains mainland while the treaty is on.
eCan is proud and its all or nothing!= I agree and this is probably the best and main reason we would shoot this offer down. We have pride and we have a martyr attitude that we will go down fighting until there is no one left or no one cares.
The USA will help! Lets wait! = No they wont. They told us this. They are great friends with eSpain and have a NAP with them.. Because of the NAP alone they cannot officially help us. So we may get some MU support as we have in the last months but they will not save us here.
ASGARD will help us! = yes they will and they are and have been 🙂
They are doing everything they can to help save us and perhaps in time we will get the upper hand if eSpain goes through some crisis.
This will look bad with our chances of getting into COT! = We are not in COT and in the most recent poll we wont be going for this any time in the near future. eCan wants to stay with ASGARD and ASGARD wants us to be free. So we need to focus on our allies and not other alliances we are not a part of.
So in the end the choice comes to you the people.
My promises going into this were to get us into COT, start a baby boom and try to end this thing with eSpain.
The Baby boom is on and working 🙂
The people voted to stick with ASGARD so at least the option was there and the people again let us know what alliance they stand behind.
Now I have gotten us the best deal we have ever seen where eSpain will simply walk away from 9 provinces asking nothing in return other than we do not attack them.
It is up to you to decide if this deal is good enough or if you want to wait it out until a later month. I and the government will back up whatever choice you decide.
!!!referendum LINKS!!! (They are the same referendum. If one becomes full please use the next one.. Only vote once as I will be looking for duplicates)
poll 1 = http://goo.gl/v4My5
poll 2 = http://goo.gl/wFrbD
AFTER YOU VOTE SEND ME YOUR 5 DIGIT PASSCODE TO http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/messages-compose/6432435
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Strength and Honour
Lol
El Hispano.
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is this a survey or a referendum?
Thank you. Chanced the terms through the article
o7
Soud good for me. It's time for eCanada to get back his land, specialy Quebec 😁
o7
Good job mr president
We have pride and we have a martyr attitude that we will go down fighting until there is no one left or no one cares XD
It's not fun to stay wiped for a long time. It is not good for the morale and people will leave. I guess this is a good deal and you can change it after a month if it doesn't work. You have tried the other option already which was rejecting the previous deal and now you can try the other option and have fun. It will help you concentrate on other aspects of the nation.
The thing about martydom is you have to die
lol classic
I seem good NAP, only we can't go in COT! But maybe we don't go in COT but we remain in ASGARD so NAP is good solution🙂
The NAP is the best first step to eventually getting all our regions back. We tried the war thing, now let's try diplomacy. I see our only choices as NAP or wipe. Derhoof posted, that in his opinion, the NAP will likely improve our relations with the eUS, not hurt them.
Time for a new approach. Voted.
Strength and honour. o7
I'm going to withhold my vote, since both offers are both so appealing :3
Oh, voted twice...ignore the second one.
second one deleted 🙂
Can I vote twice and have both count? 🙂
lol I have seen many voting in the second poll that have already voted in the first 😛 They are just having the second vote deleted 😉
I voted no, and the "code word" I used was "pussy".
As in, "For even considering this offer you come across as a giant pussy."
Muglack. Sigh. Homer and every other CP has pushed out a offer to the people to end the war.
It is the job of the CP to bring offers to the people to vote on. This is why I am a CP and not am emperor.
I am disappointed in you
I've always found people who use "pussy" as an insult to be either very simple-minded, coming out of high-school, or have never been in a relationship with a woman.
If you really want a "fragile genitalia" to use as an insult, you need look no farther than your own balls.
Because if your going to use a genders genitalia as a vulgar insult you should at least get it right. Last time I checked, balls weren't the strongest of things... as compared to their female counterparts that go through a whole lot more than just hang there.
Oh well... off topic. I vote yes for NAP. There we go. Saved it at the end there.
Wow, I find it incredibly telling that you associate the word "Pussy" with female genitalia. That's incredibly disrespectful and to be honest more than a little rude.
I was clearly referencing a "pussy cat". You know, an animal that doesn't protect itself, shows little to no courage, and is easily manipulated by others. Since he only wanted a 5 word code I couldn't use the whole thing.
You should be ashamed of yourself for sexualizing something so innocent.
I haven't met a cat with any of those qualities. Your response overall is very boring... you can try again but your going to have a hard time because:
1. The word is not bad, it is the context for which your using it. And I never used it to describe something negative. You did.
2. Most Cats don't even have those qualities. So you can't twist your words in that direction.
And if you say "giant pussy", Big cats are nothing like you describe either.
I know for the most part it was sarcasm, and you're just back-tracking to try and turn this around on me. But its just a poor attempt. You didn't even pick up on my "balls" notion, sad day. I always thought that notion was an interesting contrast of today's gender-based paradigms. Oh well. Maybe next time Mugs 🙁
You can read and analyze my response to you any way you want, but I said what I meant.
Also if you bothered to look up the definition of a "pussycat" you get the following information:
puss•y•cat (ˈpʊs iˌkæt)
n.
1. a cat; pussy.
2. Informal. an agreeable, nonthreatening person.
Pay special; attention to the last bit. "Nonthreatening".
The ideas and notions you infer from what I say are a product of your own mind and have nothing to do with my intentions when I made the comments I did.
I also didn't bother responding to comparative analysis on human genitalia because I don't feel the need to reduce every conversation to the lowest common denominator. Internet or not, that's always in poor taste.
But we will have no border with Europe ... we'll be jailed on our own continent...
We cannot even get on the map, I hardly think expansion is in our near future. This deal is not forever. We can not renew any month we want.
The deal would be great if we could keep Nfld or NS. If we don't have an enemy on our border it will be alliance battles only... and nobody gets TP medals fighting for Sweden...
So our options are: a) not having a European border, or b) not having a European border. I don't really see how not signing the NAP improves that matter.
As for TP medals, RWs count and Spain will still have 4 regions so there'll always be a chance for those.
As for fighting for our allies, isn't that the whole point in an alliance in the first place?
I'd say there'd be a far better chance of building up goodwill between Spain and Canada if they would just withdraw from the 9 regions they don't want unilaterally. From that point they stand a chance of becoming something other than Enemy#1 of eCanada.
Voted for the NAP.
It's not an easy decision to come to - and I was staunchly against the last round of talks (which included a bond). In a month's time, we are able to revisit if we want to continue this.
nope, no NAP.
We have 0 regions. How is this agreement bad... its not even permanent. Take the free month/s and build up.
Pride has nothing to do with this deal. If you nihilistic-pride-thumping-idiots want to be useful, go out and actually contribute to the baby-boom. Get new people into an actual eCountry (you know, the kind of country that has regions. Not the group of touk-wearing citizens standing near the maple-syrup stand holding a fucking flag that says "Canadians Live Here" and in subtext, "because eSpain sneezed".)
Then, when those new citizens have their eCountry taken away from them again, they'll either invest for the long haul or play casual.
Either way, Pride doesn't do anything here except make us look bad, so: Vote yes, get some bonuses, usher in some newbs to an actual eCountry. And get ready to fight because there be some spicy shit flying down south - and nobody wants that in their face without having a home to go back to and clean-up.
Those of us in political exile say no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY
**** THE VOTE ENDS SAT BUT PLEASE NOTE IT MAY TAKE ME UNTIL NIGHT TO GET HOME AND POST RESULTS ****
Spain just wants us out of the way so they can help Hungary attack US.
Spain is just scared of our resistance. But, if we can get our land back...
Do it.
I die free.
How does the USA have an NAP with Spain? I've seen Spaniards attack the states in battle and it seems that all of Spain's allies are all in on this new push against the states.
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