[CP] An answer to critics!
MUFC992
Good afternoon eIreland,
I feel it's my duty to defend not only myself, but also whole Irish Government aswell. We're witnessing a lot of attacks launched be one of group in eIreland. They call me incapable, they call me "worst President ever", they call me bad diplomat etc.
What really happened?
-We had alliance referendum where people of Ireland decided to join CUA. I was in favour of that alliance and I wanted to join them. But informative article made by our MoFA has been completely unbiased and they've requested statements from each alliance. There were two questions on referendum. Since this is bipolar eWorld we had proEDEN or CoTWO option and we had what alliance of those sides. It gave equal opportunity to all alliances to get Irish votes because everyone had to choose one of alliances from each side.
-We made talks and soon you will be informed about everything considering that question. Expect big news.
-Spain didn't attacked us even if they are 10 times stronger country. I've been in talks with their President lately and he said we won't be attacked by them if rogue laws proposed by same group who's been attacking us are voted down. So only problem with Spain according to their President is this law.
-UK attacked us. Why? As excuse they've used our NE on Spain, made by same group who's attacking me. Other then that I find their President really fair guy. UK obviously wanted this war, or at least they've done what they think is right to do. We will fight back, we already did, we beat them in the RW in Louth.
-We rebuilded old friendships we had. A lot of our allies from CUA, Croatia, USA, Canada, Netherlands fought yesterday for the Irish. We signed more MPP's then in last terms, we can defend ourselves through MPP battles thanks to that.
-Canadian President and I became very good friends and we're helping them to liberate themselves from Spain
-We've been on numerous meetings with people from all alliances, made a lot of new friends. Our MoFA team made a great report about all alliances. After that we provided choice to Irish population to decide which option is best for us.
-We had priority in our battle from both CUA and USA. Which means our diplomacy is actually great. We kept all our long time friends.
What problems we had?
1. Problems with UK
Firstly we cooperated great, we organised TW, we made sure Spain won't NE us if we start it with UK. British President explored that personally and promised me Spain won't attack us while we're in TW with them.
When UK decided to close Training War our congress didn't let it happen and they've voted down No NE law. That of course made UK frustrating. We've decided to delay closing TW for 24 more hours, then one of the guys from a group who's blaming Irish Government for "diplomacy fail" proposed NE on Spain which of course made UK even more pissed. When he proposed NE on Spain again they've decided to NE us. They used it as excuse to wipe us and close TW in that way cuz we can't through our congress.
Words of British President:
"There are two ways to end a war - by congressional vote, or by removing the opposing nation from the map, so when it became obvious that Ireland’s congress were rejecting the proposal, I decided - since I am a kind and patient man - that I would let them try to vote for No Natural Enemy again, instead of immediately pursuing the wiping-them-off-the-map option.
I made it clear to Ireland’s President, who then made it clear to his congress, that if they did not propose and accept another No Natural Enemy law, we would have no choice but to wipe them off the map."
So reason of our problems with UK is purely our congress group. Ironically that same group is trying to put blame on myself and this Government.
2. Problems with Spain
It started when one of Spanish Government members Mininuns made it clear that Spain will attack us if we join CUA. He said to Chewie that "Ireland don't have bright future if we join CUA" ; then Chewie said to me "Spain will ra*e Ireland if we join CUA" (Besides that he really gave his best to make me attack Spain, he on his hand asked Canadian President if he can make me attack Spain, he told me "NE Spain, it's boring", he told UK we're going to have a war with Spain etc. Clearly tried to provocate such events) ; Then I meet Mininuns on my private channel and asked him what's happening where he confirmed Spain will attack us if we join CUA. Since I believe only Irish citizens has a right to decide which alliance Ireland will join I gave them joke threat that we'll attack them if they don't release two Canadian regions. Even if this might sound as bad diplomacy it worked, Spain didn't attacked us and we didn't attacked them. It was only needed to contact their President once and solve all problems in this "misunderstood" situation. Obviously that guy Mininuns didn't talked as member of Government, but only as citizen of Spain.
Then guy from the same group who's accusing me proposed NE on Spain twice and then blamed me for our "bad relations with Spain". Isn't that ironical?
Of course only thing was needed is to say Spanish President that one of Irish clowns proposed it and that is a rogue proposal.
As you can see below:
We didn't had any other diplomacy problems over the whole term so far. Clearly, it's only a group who has personal problems with me. I can understand if someone doesn't like me ( I know I have fire temperament, I react furious when I see something spreads lies or doing something very low) , but when someone is making a elephant out of fly and in the same time ruining our international picture by proposing laws like NE on Spain it's something I can't understand. This Government have solved both problems we had thanks to the group who proposed those laws and voted No NE law down. They obviously never put eIreland on the first place.
The same group who started this war with UK by proposing those laws is obviously preparing themselves for political campaign while rest of Ireland are solving problems they caused and fight for Ireland to make sure we still have congress next month. I hope different one then this one we have now.
Even tho I didn't saw anyone else besides that group itself except our enemies (because different alliances) from UK and Spain is supporting the same group.
I hope everyone here are smart enough to realise what that group is trying to do and realise all good job this Government made this month. We had to fight only with enemies inside of eIreland who gave their best to make our job hard.
This has been article written only in defence of myself and the Government, you can expect update article very soon and the one with big news we have. I didn't even thought I'll write this, but I just can't stand so much bad propaganda made by the group who made so much problems for Ireland this month. Don't fall for it!
Fight the Brits through RW and let's send them a message again. YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO!
And open your eyes!
Signed,
MUFC992, Irish President
Comments
inb4 propaganda tl;dr comments
I have only one message for you. Res non verba.
Thanks to all those who fought in Louth last two days. We showed those who are trying to make a laugh out of this country how's that suppose to be done.
You should really read my MoFA article because the reason we're at war isn't because of that NE - something I've told you over and over again http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-the-war-2231878/1/20
Your reason is even worse.
UK have no right in deciding which alliance will this country join. People of Ireland said it's CUA.
And it's not what your CP told me yesterday. He said this NE is a reason . I don't know where this story came out now. You two should talk more to eachother and decide what really is a reason.
Quote from your President:
Yesterday, we both proposed No Natural Enemy laws, which are the first step to ending a war. Our Congress accepted the proposal. Ireland’s didn’t.
There are two ways to end a war - by congressional vote, or by removing the opposing nation from the map, so when it became obvious that Ireland’s congress were rejecting the proposal, I decided - since I am a kind and patient man - that I would let them try to vote for No Natural Enemy again, instead of immediately pursuing the wiping-them-off-the-map option.
I made it clear to Ireland’s President, who then made it clear to his congress, that if they did not propose and accept another No Natural Enemy law, we would have no choice but to wipe them off the map.
Today, a member of Ireland’s congress proposed Spain as their natural enemy. This is what we in the political world call a “Maximum Retard” move. I have told them in the past, that whilst we love them, attacking Spain is not something we could tolerate, so we will remove them from the map if this law passes.
The law didn't pass so obviously that isn't the reason. And please, for the love of god, read the article. It's not to do with CUA at all! Why don't you save yourself some bother and actually learn why we're at war with you. You're supposed to be the CP and you seem to be clueless.
Where did you get access to eIreland's private congress discussions (during a time of peace between our nations)? You took our president out of context in your article - MUFC told our congress the correct things to do and made that information clear and available... many of us were frustrated with the incompetence of this months congress.
You disrespect our government by spying on our congress, take the private discussions of our leader out of context, and use them to justify a war that takes advantage of the good faith we placed in you by organizing a training war earlier in the month.... all after you try to bully us out of our sovereignty to choose alliances...
And it's us who have a government with poor diplomacy?
It's not spying, that image is everywhere and regardless is what he said. It may be out of context in the congressional thread but in our discussions it reflects his attitude over congress perfectly.
If you'd been in the actual congress discussions you would know that MUFC was actively and regularly telling our congress to vote down the NE Spain prop, and before that telling them to vote up No NE (which he proposed himself) What else was he supposed to do exactly?
Your justification for war is what, you didn't like our Cp? After the long peace between us it's sad that you decided to throw it away over your personal feelings being hurt... correct me if I'm wrong, or if you want to claim that you have a more intimate knowledge of what goes on in eIrish congress than I do...
If you read the gorram article then you'll find out. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-the-war-2231878/1/20
Also, I really don't care about the rest of congress, like I said in the last comment which you seemed to over look, it's because MUFC has a poor attitude in our discussion and refused to deal with congress. It's nothing to do about liking him, we were - and still are - friends, but this is a thing more important than personal opinions.
I read that article which is what I've been referencing to this whole time. Saying that he had a "poor attitude" doesn't mean anything given that I'm still waiting for you to tell me what else he could have done aside from regularly informing our congress and proposing the no NE himself.
What do you mean by dealing with congress? You say this isn't about personal opinions, but you seem justifying you actions purely based on your subjective view of events. So fine then, you capitalized on an opportunity to cheap shot us during a TW - I don't blame you - just don't try to sell us the story that we're the ones in the wrong.
Ian, it's cause he's also friends with our trolls, whom are also telling everyone that we are in the wrong.
Divide et impera. Brits are good in it.
Is this your attempts at trying to end this? Considering you feel this war is so unjust, you haven't exactly tried to talk to us.
LOL MUFC got owned....
Are you talking to me or MUFC? I'm resigned to the fact that the UK have decided to stab us in the back again, I'm not surprised in the least. Like I've said, I can live with that part but I'm not going to tolerate being told that it's our fault... only for trusting a nation that's notorious for backstabbing I suppose.
It really is a case of friends protecting friends, I had to get back up in #eUK so I could ban ChewChew for racism.
eUK Government has gotten involved in something they should never have and they will take the side of ChewChew cuz they pally with him. The eUK public don't give a shit about Ireland, we, like Ireland are just using them too gain cheap BHs and TP's
I'll leave a quote from the article Beta linked to you to make it even more obvious.
"Myself and Blue And Evil spoke to MUFC, the Irish CP, to thrash out new terms of agreement, we were met with poor attitude and refusal to even try to make a difference. I've since seen proponents of MUFC say that it's not his fault and he can't force congress to do what he wants - which is very true, I won't say otherwise - but what they all seem to completely look over is the fact we were not asking him to force congress to do something, we asked for him to just try. Had he tried, we would be fine and not be formally attacking. And so, for those who are saying we're attacking because of "retarded congress", it's not true we are attacking because those in charge choose to refuse to do even the slightest thing to change things - those in charge to refuse to even care."
You know damn right I tried Chewie 😉)
You most certainly did not, lol.
You cannot beat the level of social engineering they are able to output. they have a large effort behind the scenes with multiple nations (friends and foes) supporting them.
ok,people around the world understand us,especially those countries who have congress,in almost every congress they will always have some trolls or people that will do something "smart",the worst thing is when u try to defend your congress but you are left out of excuses,so we will only try to continue doing our job here
ps to my adorable congress,sry guys i am almost out of pop corn for you
Certain congress members probably thought this is Nation states game where everything is about talking.
Votado!! Its fine and healthy to have a congress that ask its president for information regarding strategy and International Affairs, but its lame to blame a president (throwing low punchs) that he doesnt really care about the well being of its people since I know it MUFC992 main worry.
Strength and Honour
And The Word...
It's sad that an article like this is even needed in the first place, but a good article nonetheless.
voted.
great job so far who cares about trolls and robbers who are trying so hard to makes this government looks bad but i think true irish players devoted to this country will always supported this government
>great job so far
How is it a great job? This isn't a troll I'm genuinely wondering how his term can be classified as great.
We are less unified than ever and it was his mandate of unity that got him elected.
We're only less united because of you doing what it says in this article.
Rest of Ireland is still united.
I lol'd hahah that has to be the most retarded thing I have ever heard. So basically before you were president the rest of Ireland wasn't united? and you united them?
Haha awh man, you are special.
Rest of Ireland is still united.
Still
STILL..
STILL......
Does that means I've united it? I just tried to unite all Irish including you guys who are doing this to me now 😉)
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Well that's a load of garbage and proves just how selective you are when it comes to.. Ehmn... Everything.
I am neither a troll or a robber, I'll have you know.
Irish have always been derps.
no one cares for your opinion Mr BallSack, but it is a true observation...
You cut me so deep Wayne.
I really thought I was going to vote for you and immediately begin criticism. This is certainly a pleasant surprise.
Keep up the good work. You're doing great.
And as State Prior I bless this article with the WORD.
You are false prophet and spawn of SATAN!
Repent!
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This is the worst that could happen to any community - compatriots to attack and insult each other.
If MUFC had done his job in an appropriate, unbiased and respectful way he wouldn't have to answer to any critics and angry people asking him to answer why he has ran this country in such a poor manner.
It is obvious that he has done ridiculously much wrong, otherwise those opposing his actions wouldn't have so much substance to throw at him, whilst he has absolutely none to come back with in return.
>"I was in favour of that alliance and I wanted to join them. But informative article made by our MoFA has been completely unbiased and they've requested statements from each alliance."
The articles were most certainly not unbiased. First of all, you didn't even include ACT (Ie trial membership to TWO) because you personally didn't want us to join that alliance, therefore you narrowed it down to the alternatives you could consider personally.
At the end of this article, for example: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-alliances-an-upcoming-decision-2227033/1/20
You and your government quickly rushes to glorify a pro-EDEN stance, by promiting CUA and/or Asgard. You have completely discluded statements from countries on the other side of the alliance spectrum, not only in the article itsefl but also in the comments. That is extremely biased, ie, nowhere near unbiased.
Other reasons contributing to why this referendum was very biased is for example:
How you openly took a hostile stance towards one side of the spectrum in your articles and actions, claiming to represent all of Ireland.
You TOLD congress to sign MPPs with one side of the spectrum before the referendum articles even began to be published, such as Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Australia, Croatia, China and so on.
Your Minister of Foreign Affairs herself justified actions taken to align ourselves to one side of the spectrum before even consulting our population by saying that you and her had "already decided what is best for Ireland."
Proof of this can be found pretty much everywhere, but here's a few prints:
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2nriz50.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/a3f695.jpg
http://oi46.tinypic.com/25royhc.jpg
http://oi48.tinypic.com/33pftl1.jpg
http://oi45.tinypic.com/oh1r41.jpg
And so on.
>"-Spain didn't attacked us even if they are 10 times stronger country. I've been in talks with their President lately and he said we won't be attacked by them if rogue laws proposed by same group who's been attacking us are voted down. So only problem with Spain according to their President is this law."
Spain did indeed not attack us because they didn't think it was worthwhile and because they realized it was a troll proposal, but in spite of this you have glorified the Basque conflict and openly taken a hostile stance towards Spain.
Proof can be found here:
http://oi50.tinypic.com/a3f695.jpg
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2vxrgix.jpg
http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dv4nxj.jpg
>"-UK attacked us. Why? As excuse they've used our NE on Spain, made by same group who's attacking me."
That is a fallacy that has been proven wrong several times. Their government has stated that the proposals in congress contributed towards it but that your attitude regarding the proposals, and your general attitude throughout the month has been poor.
I'll quote the British government in a statement they release😛
"we were met with poor attitude and refusal to even try to make a difference. I've since seen proponents of MUFC say that it's not his fault and he can't force congress to do what he wants - which is very true, I won't say otherwise - but what they all seem to completely look over is the fact we were not asking him to force congress to do something, we asked for him to just try. Had he tried, we would be fine and not be formally attacking. And so, for those who are saying we're attacking because of "retarded congress", it's not true we are attacking because those in charge choose to refuse to do even the slightest thing to change things - those in charge to refuse to even care."
You can find the article here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-the-war-2231878/1/20
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Proof of your attitude can be found here:
http://oi45.tinypic.com/5l8nm0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e6RfSeT.png
>"-We rebuilded old friendships we had. A lot of our allies from CUA, Croatia, USA, Canada, Netherlands fought yesterday for the Irish. We signed more MPP's then in last terms, we can defend ourselves through MPP battles thanks to that."
Strengthening already good relations does not make you a good diplomat, all it means is that you're not prone to destroy everything that comes in your way. Furthermore, you have ruined many good relations with others, you have plunged us into war and you have acted disrespectully towards other foreigners, your congress and your people.
>"-We had priority in our battle from both CUA and USA. Which means our diplomacy is actually great. We kept all our long time friends."
The fact that our longest standing allies can overlook the incompetence of one government and help us despite of it does not mean you or your government is good at diplomacy, it means they are. Just like winning a battle does not make you a great general.
>"When UK decided to close Training War our congress didn't let it happen and they've voted down No NE law. That of course made UK frustrating. We've decided to delay closing TW for 24 more hours, then one of the guys from a group who's blaming Irish Government for "diplomacy fail" proposed NE on Spain which of course made UK even more pissed. When he proposed NE on Spain again they've decided to NE us. They used it as excuse to wipe us and close TW in that way cuz we can't through our congress."
>"So reason of our problems with UK is purely our congress group. Ironically that same group is trying to put blame on myself and this Government."
As I've already said, that is a fallacy, and you're once more maniuplating the truth to work to your benefit.
I'll repeat myself:
I'll quote the British government in a statement they release😛
"we were met with poor attitude and refusal to even try to make a difference. I've since seen proponents of MUFC say that it's not his fault and he can't force congress to do what he wants - which is very true, I won't say otherwise - but what they all seem to completely look over is the fact we were not asking him to force congress to do something, we asked for him to just try. Had he tried, we would be fine and not be formally attacking. And so, for those who are saying we're attacking because of "retarded congress", it's not true we are attacking because those in charge choose to refuse to do even the slightest thing to change things - those in charge to refuse to even care."
You can find the article here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-the-war-2231878/1/20
Proof of your attitude can be found here:
http://oi45.tinypic.com/5l8nm0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e6RfSeT.png
The fact that you're trying to blame others for your mistakes is just repulsing and it's a piss poor trait for a leader to have.
>"2. Problems with Spain"
This entire paragraph is a load of garbage.
>"he confirmed Spain will attack us if we join CUA. "
Mininuns himself stated that he DID NOT say that, but rather implied that our future wont be bright.
Here's some proof of that:
http://oi48.tinypic.com/1zckfpw.jpg
You can find it in context in this article here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/from-spain-with-love-2230911/1/20#comment
>"I gave them joke threat that we'll attack them if they don't release two Canadian regions. Even if this might sound as bad diplomacy it worked, Spain didn't attacked us"
As I've already proven above Spain never said they had any intention of attacking us, after the meeting you had with Mininuns (which I was present at) that would've been made perfectly clear if you can comprehend basic diplomatic language, which you clearly can't.
>"Then guy from the same group who's accusing me proposed NE on Spain twice and then blamed me for our "bad relations with Spain". Isn't that ironical?"
As I've already proven you've acted in a very hostile way towards Spain, threatening them, mocking a real life conflict they were involved with for the sake of provoking them and so for.
Here's some proof:
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2vxrgix.jpg
http://oi48.tinypic.com/2dv4nxj.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/ic7cr4.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/a3f695.jpg
>"The same group who started this war with UK by proposing those laws is obviously preparing themselves for political campaign while rest of Ireland are solving problems they caused and fight for Ireland to make sure we still have congress next month. I hope different one then this one we have now."
I've already proven several times that the proposals in congress were not the cause of this war, but your attitude towards them and towards the UK.
I will once more link you to an article from the British foreign ministry:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-the-war-2231878/1/20
You and you yourself caused this war, nobody else, don't blame anyone else because you know I'm right on this. Just take the hit and move forwards. Clearly you're too childish to accept that you've made a mistake, though, so no high expectations.
>except our enemies (because different alliances) from UK and Spain
The only reason they are our "enemies" is because of your incompetence and inability to deal with situations, your manipulations and your lies. Anyone could see this.
>"And open your eyes!"
The people of Ireland do indeed need to open their eyes since there are apparently some people who still believe the garbage you throw at them, which is just absurd.
If anyone is interested in the actual truth, I'd suggest you just glimpse through this article, look at the prints and read what I've commented about the prints:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/truth-is-treason-in-the-empire-of-lies--2231807/1/20
And possible misunderstadings or so have been cleared up in the comment section of the article.
Furthermore, on my article MUFC have posted a comment basically claiming that what I've written in the article actually is the truth (And that therefore this article is a load of garbage and lies)
He also states that he doesn't regret it.
http://oi50.tinypic.com/ogcrkl.jpg
I honestly do feel sorry for anyone who might still believe in MUFC's lies after this. I really do.