[CP] A letter to eCroatia
Bhane
Hello eCroatians, I’m writing today in the name of our old friendship. Maybe one of the oldest in the history of eWorld. We have always been loyal to each other, without question. We have always respected each other as enduring allies, regardless of any geopolitical situation. eCroatia has always been eIreland’s big brother. We do not want the close bond between our countries to be broken.
Recently, we’ve received sad news. Messages from the new eCroat government regarding the new alliance. It was not a surprise to see the eUK there, since we have been hearing rumours that the next alliance would be Croat/SPoland/UK. The United Kingom, our historical enemy, in the same alliance with our historical ally and friend? As shocking as that sounds on the face of it, the nation of eIreland has been preparing itself. Many have come to grips with the idea that the next big alliance would put eIre, and eUK on the same team.
We don’t ask for much, we realise that we can’t really decide what’s going to happen with eWorld. What we can do is count on friendship, as eIreland always has. Maybe we’re naive, but we have the opinion that respect and integrity counts in politics. In the months leading up to the next generation of alliances, we had the understanding from eCroatia that they would only join an alliance if eIreland was "on par" with the eUK. If eUK was a full member, then we would be a full member. If eUK is a founder, we would to be a founder. Hrcozgb has recently reversed this policy. No longer will eCroatia consider eIreland to be at least equal to the eUK. eCroatia now considers eIreland to be less than the eUK.
How would eCroatia feel if you saw us trying to found an alliance with eSerbia or eSlovenia? Considering our long friendship, it would hurt, no matter of our size and damage. Imagine how it is for us, when we’ve always considered you as our closest brothers. But now eCroatia seems to be helping our bully. If the eUK are raised above us in a new alliance hierarchy, that would establish an eUK command over eIreland. This would bring endless opportunities for the eBrits to revel in roleplaying the oppressor as “master over the Irish dregs.” eCroatia should not abide such a dynamic in any new alliance.
We have only one request. When making a new alliance, return to the “on par” policy regarding the eUK, and eIreland. We do not ask to be raised to founder status. But, if that is a position that the eUK will be hoisted to, then eCroatia should demand eIreland has an equal voice as a founder, too. If eCroatia desires the eUK to simply be members, then eIreland can join at that level alongside them. We do not ask for more respect than anyone, we ask for equal treatment as our long-time rival. On a singular level, we can go toe2toe with the eUK. We have proven to be more than a handful for their occupation attempts when the eUK does not have the full weight of an overmatched alliance aiding their side. eIreland has certainly earned on-par respect from eCroatia, we have always stood by you.
eIreland has always been loyal to its friends, and we’ll always stay that way. We know, or at least we knew who are our allies are, no matter of the balance in the world. eIreland has always stayed with you. Will eCroatia stay with us? I hope so. I would be befuddled if eCroatia would decide to push us away into an alliance against them.
Signed,
President of eIreland,
Bhane
Irish Prime Minister,
Don Croata
Croatian version (thanks Don Croata):
Pozdrav eHrvatima, ovaj članak pišem u ime našeg starog prijateljstva, možda jednog od najdugotrajnijih u ovoj igri. Uvijek smo jedni drugima bili odani, bez pitanja si pomagali. Uvijek smo poštovali jedni druge kao odlične saveznike, bez obzira na geopolitičku situaciju. eHrvatska je oduvijek irski veliki brat. Ne želimo pokvariti takve odlične odnose ni sada.
Nedavno smo mogli čitati tužne vijesti. Logovi i poruke nove eHrvatske Vlade, u kojima se govorilo o novim savezima. Nismo se iznenadili vidjevši eUK tamo, s obzirom da se i ranije pričalo o tome da će doći do saveza između Hrvatske, SPolanda i Britanaca.Velika Britanija, kao naš povijesni neprijatelj, u istome savezu kao naši najbolji saveznici i prijatelji? Koliko god nam je to čudno zvučalo mi smo se na to pripremali. Mnogi su i mislili da će doći do toga i da ćemo se naći sa UK u istom savezu.
Mi ne tražimo puno, shvaćamo da mi ne možemo odlučivati o velikim promjenama u eSvijetu, ali ono na što želimo računati je prijateljstvo, uvijek smo samo na to i računali. Možda smo naivni, ali uvijek smo smatrali da je poštovanje i integritet ono što se treba poštivati u politici. Vjerovali smo da će sa dolaskom novih saveza i naš put slijediti hrvatski, vjerovali smo da ćemo u tom novom savezu, s obzirom da ćemo ga djeliti sa Britancima imati jednak status, ipak smo ga zaslužili tokom svih ovih godina.
Kako bi se eHrvatska osjećala da smo mi pokušali napraviti savez sa eSrbijom ili eSlovenijom?
Uzimajući u obzir naše duge i odlične odnose, boljelo bi, bez obzira na našu veličinu i snagu. Zamislite kako je za nas vidjeti onakvu poruku kada eHrvatsku smatramo najvećim prijateljem u ovoj igri. Ako bi Velika Britanija uspostavila hijerarhiju u novom savezu, to bi značilo da bi oni imali prevlast i nad eIrskom, mi to ne smijemo dopustiti. eHrvatska ne smije propustiti uočiti ovakvu opasnost za svog saveznika.
Imamo samo jedan zahtjev. Kada se bude pravio novi savez, vratite se jednakoj politici prema Velikoj Birtaniji i Irskoj, mislim da to zaslužujemo. Ne tražimo status osnivača, ali tražimo da imamo jednak glas u savezu kao i Velika Britanija, sve drugo bi ugrožavalo naše interese. Ne tražimo poštovanja više nego što bi bilo dano drugima, tražimo jednakost.
Nebrojeno smo puta do sada dokazali da se možemo sa njima nositi 1 na 1, dokazali smo se sposobni osloboditi se od dugotrajne okupacije iako su oni na svojoj strani imali ogromnu premoć u damage-u. Irska je zaslužila jednak tretman i poštovanje od eHrvatske, jer mi smo uvijek bili za vas, baš kao i vi za nas.
eIrska je oduvijek odana svojim prijateljima i saveznicima, uvijek smo bili takvi. Znamo, ili se barem nadamo da znamo tko su naši saveznici, bez obzira na balans u igri. Irska je uvijek ostala sa vama. Hoće li eHrvatska ostati sa nama? Ne bismo htjeli da nas Hrvatska odluči pogurnuti na drugu stranu, u neki suprotni savez..
Comments
Very strong message. It needed to be said publicly and on the official level. o7
voted.
I made these replies to later comments that raised concerns. I will repeat them here, so it is at the top of the page for everyone to read. This is why I wrote the article:
Maybe the article is a mistake, but I truly have the best of intentions. Hrco (the eCroatia CP) has told me directly that eIreland was no longer in the eCroat priority list, and I could basically screw off. The only way I see to make him recognize our brotherhood again is with public support. I didn't see any other way than to make an article where I am completely transparent, and lay all my cards on the table.
I am entreating eCroatia for diplomatic consideration in the formation of the new alliance. There is no ultimatum, or repercussions. There are no demands, and no consequences of any decision. Just a humble request to remember our brotherhood.
I hope this works out for the best.
I get the meaning of the article. I think that some Irish are very upset, while others are just concerned. I feel this article covers at least the concern that most of us are feeling. Don't worry though, I've had my articles selectively read before too. 😛
Those who wants to read what the article says will read. Those who doesn't care about what it says will read as they want to read it.
I hope everyone just realise what our concerns are and why we're writing article Bhane explained it very well.
All you have to do is READ damn article before commenting.
Has Ireland gone Mad? I spent all my time fighting the last two weeks helping Canada against the UK and Spain, now we are winning about where we fit in an aligance with them? Have a vote in Ireland and see who wants to be in an aligance with the UK against Canada, France, Portugal, and German. I do not want any part of that!!! Thanks Croatia for the favor.
What's the craic?
big and hairy
There's me in the picture= there's vote.
Now, let's read the darn thing. 🙂
Pride, loyalty - Ireland!
o7
You will notice that none of the representatives from Croatia's other long term allies -- ones we are in fact closer to, for a number of reasons -- have behaved in the way that members of Irish government have.
So you see this as being over the top and that we should accept eUK as a founder while Eire is set below them?
I expect calm bilateral talks between countries based on reality.
I don't expect members of your government to engage in trolling wars with our president, I don't expect open letters from your president based on nothing but speculation about an alliance which is a long way from coming to being, and I don't expect veiled threats about joining our enemy.
If the attitude changes we can resume normal contact.
I imagine things look different on the other side...
So you expect to found or at least have serious try to found an alliance with our biggest enemy without making us mad? Or at least suspicious about what you're doing?
After the answer "Ireland isn't my top-priority" I should say: "Oh cool then, we love you!" ?
Don't you think you should speak to your President about trolling too, since he was heavly involved?
Also, read the article again, it says we love you actually, that's why I can't understand this reaction, just give it an objective read, will ya?
I hope you know what you are doing... Arrlo gave you a really good answer. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually hear him out?
I would Romper, just if I had any reason to believe something will change before founding of the alliance.
Because we didn't get a single reason to trust situation will change, as I said, we've been said Ireland is "low-priority".
Everyone knows an Alliance will be built with UK as founder and Ireland won't be founder. Arrlo said he can't see us as founders. We can't accept that scenario.
And everyone knows all that? Damn, I don't know the first thing about these new alliances, yet you seem to know it all. Good for you!
I still think Arrlo gave you a very good answer.
Seems fair considering the circumstances.
I'm not mad, Don. I still don't understand why you are. Unsettled maybe, but it's nothing that I can't cope with. You seem to be having difficulty and are raging a little. eIreland should not be their top priority, Don. The top priority of eCroatia, should be eCroatia. You and all the people you are fighting with should stop trolling each other, and have some rational discourse.
That being said, their is nothing inappropriate about the article, Obliterate. I am publicly sharing what I know about the alliance, and what Hrco has directly told me about the NEW eCroatia policy concerning eIreland. I am entreating your country for diplomatic consideration in the formation of the new alliance. There is no ultimatum, or repercussions. There are no demands, and no consequences of any decision. Just a humble request to remember our brotherhood.
I did had grudges with hrco (Cro CP) because I've tried to explain him our situation and even apologised if there was bad words (and there was equally from both sides) after that he told me to "fu*k off"
Is that calm bilateral talks?
No it's not calm, Don.
Maybe both of you should avoid each other. Let others talk a bit. Please speak civilly when representing your country. Fight with each other on your own time. Don't let personal hatreds seep into the business of the nation.
True, I already said I won't talk with him again 🙂
You may notice that few of those allies, closer or not, seem to have been excluded seemingly on the basis of a personal vendetta between two Croatians. One of whom got eIreland wiped before, I might add.
I think this article is very poorly judged, but let's not pretend that pragmatic factors are the crucial ones here. There are pragmatic solutions to the pragmatic problems of integrating Ireland into the new alliance process.
Finding the right alliance partners, that desire us to be partners, has to be addressed also. From this letter, and the comments, it sounds like eCroatia isn't falling into either of those categories.
Never underestimate Ireland.
They seem to be outnumbered BUT they have some good crazy friends who will always be by their side!
Ireland! o/
Ireland have done nothing internationally in the last few months, maybe even longer. So explain what makes you think suddenly after months of nothing you feel you deserve anything ?
We've been loyal for four years. A few licking articles written lately can just be more important then being loyal for 4 long years?
I can't accept that.
What could we do? We did exactly what every other outbalanced country did, shut up and fight.
fino fino
Voted
Give Respect - Get Respect
Pride, Loyalty, Honor - Proud to be eIrish
Hail Ireland
You mean respect when your orc buddies called vukovar cro victims filthy pigs and then all croats pigs for months?
Orcs that rule ireland for many months now starting with sweet drinker?
You orcs succesfully ruined cro irish relationship
dammit close the door these rodents keep getting in
VK you are borring whit that sh.. go play tetris
UK is nothing better than Ireland. They are just favored by Spoland, and as such they have the "priviledge" to be founders of an alliance. How are they different from Ireland?
We just want Croatia to be our Spoland...
Do a lot of eUK players not taunt Spain quite a lot, yet they are supposedly great allies?
eUK does show more talent at planting their lips to their current master's backside, tho
The UK have had many member past and present in alliance HQ. Working for many nations, helping them directly achieve there needs. All ireland have done is wine and ask for help when wiped or occupied. There is no comparison
Ireland had its members in Alliance HQ while we was members. Last time it was EDEN.
We worked for many nations, we helped them directly achieve their needs too.
The only differance is that you was under stronger skirt - SPoland always coverd you whenever you needed it to be honest. You're basicly weak link of TWO, you're there just because you have good organisation and Government. I've already stated that you used your opportunity in a perfect way. But you got the opportunity not because of you, but because of SPoland.
We stayed loyal to our friends and finished up in weakers side.
You are taking a wrong approach here. This kind of reasoning will not get you any friends in Croatia.
But if you think you are on the right track, keep going.
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LOL that's rich from someone who calls on Poland every time their in over their head.
Raven Anarcho isnt that what friends and allies do for each other when in need? every day on my feed i see people calling for friends and allies to help them in battles ect. Infact i remember seeing this non stop when ireland was wiped and trying to free its regions after many failed attempts on there own.
Of course this might be hard for Ireland to understand, as its been along time since they have been in a alliance or involved on a international stage.
Mate, you can't tell Ireland doesn't help its allies because all our allies and everyone in eIreland knows we're doing only that for the past few months and more...I don't remember us being wiped longer then 2-3 months, most of the countries who weren't TWO was wiped for the same period.
Yes, we wasn't in the alliance, that gave you great advantage. But it's a bit disrespectful of you to talk like that for Ireland, don't you think?
Actually No don i dont think it is, how have i been disrespectful.
Ireland have not been part of a alliance for al long time this is a true fact, and when you was wiped you and many irish was shouting and calling for help as does everyone in that situation.
You have got to remember Ireland walked away from its last alliance and many friends at the same time, Choosing to go it alone (neutral). Then had the chance to join new alliances with its friends and again chosen to stay it alone (neutral). Every choice and action has its consequences i guess. You can just take the stance of staying away and out of alliance, then come back making demands and threats.
Have to agree with N W G here, sadly enough.
His last comment was precise enough.
If there's consensus, then let Ireland be pro- "That-new-alliance" with signed MPPs with both UK and Croatia, and rest members...you can always AS someone 🙂
That can't happen if eCroatia has decided to help the eUK try to subjugate us again. I'm trying to get into the alliance with our eCroat brothers. That's the whole purpose of the article... to remind them our lifelong commitment to each other. We have always been BFF allies, and I don't want eCroatia to end it.
MM... your message does seem to be getting confused, Your saying you just want to be part of something, Yet your Prime Minister seems to be making demands on titles and power. You say you want to remain friends, yet your Prime Minister makes threats about joining enemies.
If its got to the point where your prime minister and other CP's are swearing at each other and arguing. Then having a open letter is just going to make it worse.
Right now Ireland seems to be acting like a spoilt child kicking and screaming because there not allowed some sweets and your not doing your case any good at the time you want to prove yourselfs able and willing