[Boh] Should Ireland Be Our Bros?
Day 2,032, 15:01
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by Bohemond4
Dear friends, readers and Waynekerr,
Ireland are our neighbours, and often punching bag, to the West of our nation. Currently, they are wiped and occupied by us, but ususally, they have 6 regions and sometimes lay claim to a seventh, one which we deny them and usually leads us to smacking them - again.
However, the history teaches us that things were not always so, that at one stage we were friends even, and I believe that this can be a stage we can return to, and that it would be more beneficial for our two nations.
Friends?
What does being friends grant us, as a nation, well in the first place it grants us a solid ally right on our Western border who can aid us in conflicts. As seen in the eFalklands War, we suffered from their attack opening a two front war.
As friends, we would have a secured front in wartime, and, an ally to help us launch invasions across the seas. Our nations are not the strongest, and we often waste our strength fighting each other all the time, without that constant bickering, we could do a lot more together.
Enemies?
What real problem do we get fighting one another? The obvious answer is True Patriot medals, but I ask you, where else could one get a medal? Well, against any of the other nations surrounding our glorious nation. So, why else should we fight? For real life nationalist reasons? Well, those are all well and good, but too often it is pointless and turns ugly.
Finally, economically, we can gain fruits elsewhere from other nations, including, but not limited to, Belgium and, Canada has more bonuses and is also another traditional enemy, though one with less positive ties to us than Ireland.
Being in an alliance with each other is a way to increase our combined power and reach over this tiny corner of the eworld without worrying about British paras in Dublin or the paddies invading Leeds.
tl;dr? bros is better than hoes
Thanks for reading!
Bohemond4
Viscount of Cambridge; Party President; Minister of Defence
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They are either in TWO/ACT or we beat them around whenever we feel like it.
Nothing else will suffice...
We had over 8 months of building a relationship.
Attack Spain and free us : 3
I spent my terms as CP trying to achieve the MPP with Ireland, I invited them to ACT they said no to both...
ACT is unacceptable to us, we must have some say in an alliance that we have to contribute damage to or it's a violation of our sovereignty. We tend to give a shit about such notions.
Screw them!
8 months building a relationship to be back stabbed by them when Argies wanted to have a baby boom. They proved the true "friendship" then.
Europe is owned by our allies Poland, Serbia etc. without the Ireland battles, eUK would be a pretty dull place!
We were PTOed you goon.
The Irish betrayed us when Argentina attacked. Why should they be let off? We will be seen as weak if we just give regions back.
Because we were PTOed by a foreigner who was reckless with diplomacy, military action AND our finances.
Because both of us have much to gain.
Because Ireland represents an escalating probability of disaster for the eUK in the long term.
All you Brits are like "they betrayed us" by letting Argentina attack...
1. It's not like they could have stopped Argentina
2. It was for a babyboom, not for conquering eUK
3. Worst excuse. Ever.
Only those that are stupid are claiming they let Argies attack or they betrayed us... The Irish simply took advantage of the situation. We should take advantage of the situation now and hold em down for as long as TWO can spare the damage.
Fair point.
Just wait until Spain and Poland get tired of you. The last resistance wars have all been extremely close. Lets see how you do on your own.
Wolf, you mean those last Resistance Wars that we won very comfortably? Or that one before then, when Plato gave everyone loads of rockets, you had full USA backing, and yet still lost?
there is no way they could have stopped Argentina that was going to happen but they could have NOT invaded us when were vulnerable
That's all very good and well, but as soon as any other country attacks us, Ireland attacks us too. Do we really need to keep going through the same cycle?
yes🙂
Not that I dispute the whole Argie thing was really crap,
but Ireland didn't 'backstab' UK.
Backstab is when 2 countries are allies, and then one attacks the other.
Like, if UK was allies with Canada, and then suddenly attacked them,
that would be considered a backstab.
UK and Ireland were not allied. We haven't been even marginally aligned since UK left TERRA. We just had a longterm peace between us.
The term for this situation is 'screwed'.
Ireland royally screwed UK over.
So I can understand many Brits aren't quick to forget that attack after 8 months of peace.
However, don't forget the entire year UK spent invading Ireland with Alfagrem's Visa before that peace either.
Peace that began with Ireland granting a UK that had been wiped for 3 months some regions back so you could run parliament elections again. And asked for nothing in return.
they signed a nap with us literally the day before they invaded they stabbed us in the back
There was an NAP, but it was breached by a PTOer and a criminal, so whatever.
Watching the British & Irish Lions rugby team presently touring Australia. They are awesome & I thought "why could not that attitude apply in eRep". The benefits are obvious - Bohemond mentioned them in his first para.
However "bros" indicates an equal relationship & things in common - but there is too much glee in UK for Ireland to be ever considered anything but a punching bag when you lot feel like it.
Yet for every action there is a reaction - do shitty stuff to Ireland because you feel like it - & shitty stuff will be done right back to you, any chance we can.
All of us were aware, at some level at least, that Argentina invaded the UK to symbolically rub the Falklands War anniversary in your face - they had fun doing so, & they had no thought nor care for Ireland. So why did Ireland go along with it - because popular sentiment supported a nutty Croat who had no care for Ireland. And why? Simples, because we do NOT like you - you have not done anything to make us like nor trust you.
You want Ireland to be a friend & ally? Then treat us like one - there is enough shared history between both countries to build on that. But keep on putting Ireland down & it will be the same old same old for ever - count on it
Good thats the way we want it. Our noobs have got TP medals to win...
What the hell. Someone calling herself Boudicca fighting for Ireland? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Boudicca was Celtic fighting a cruel & unjust invasion. Ireland is mainly a Celtic nation. To say its Saxon fighting Celt is too black & white - the real situation is much more complicated as everyone knows. If you read the last para of my post above - Britain & Ireland have a deeply entwined history & a great deal in common. It is attitudes as typified by Wanker's posts that cause all the problems here.
For what its worth IRL I am Australian - just as much Saxon/Norman as Celt - but that is by the bye. It is the UK unjustness here in eRep I am fighting against
we had a great relationship for months we were building a strong relationship we could of became strong allies Ireland ruined it not us we are just paying them back you wouldn't be on our side if the shoe was on the other foot
You paid Ireland back & are still doing it & enjoying every second of it.
You may have thought there was a great relationship - more fool you for not knowing the real situation - there was the beginnings of one - the merest hint of a good relationship. And yes the carryings on of MUFC were what precipitated things. It was how the UK responded that showed that you really did not consider there was a good relationship - more like some nasty master/servant relationship thing I think
they attacked us they would of reacted the same if we attacked them if the shoe was on the other foot so to speak also im not saying we had a great relationship I was trying to say we were building one a few more months we could of been much more trusting of each other you don't build a relationship over night it takes months
We were PTOed.
I think genetic studies have shown that "the English" are a "Celtic" people too...but of course their culture was heavily influenced by others. Anyway can't every e-country just get along and stop da fighting?
That would be interesting. I wonder how long the powers that be would take to cancel the whole game with no income.
If you can prove that you would treat Ireland as a friend and equal, then maybe, just maybe, you can be trusted. Otherwise, I don't know about others, but I will keep fighting you.
And how do you suggest we do that?
Some demeaning way I would imagine.
You are missing the point completely.
Not that I care - I am happy to resist arrogance forever
eh, that guy is Irish Boudicca
So he is, I read your comment the wrong way round - sorry Wolf we were arging from the same side there : (
when canada and france attacked us there was Ireland also attacking us
after 8 months of building a solid foundation for friendship the first time we were invaded since the canada france thing argentina attacked us and the Irish were right with them despite signing a peace treaty with us the day before
economically: we gain fruits and 20% food bonus from holding Ireland also our new players gain the chance at TP medals our older players can rack up some damage for it too
military: we are stronger than Ireland and our alliance is stronger than Ireland's
politically: many many people want Ireland kept held
it makes no sense to release them
you say we should fight a different country but you don't say which
so WHICH country should we invade instead?
list of bordering nations
spain - ally
poland - ally
america -stronger than us we wouldn't be able to win any RWs
lithuania-ally
norway - they have no bonuses we want why bother annoying them than a country that stabbed us in the back and also give 20% food bonus
france - stronger than us we wouldn't win any RWs also they might full on invade us if we were to attack them
belgium - during the canada-france-ireland invasion they stood with us and got wiped for their trouble why would we swap a good ally like them for a bad ally like ireland
germany - now this is the only feasible one the RWs would be close though and holding them would be a massive pain also they do represent a danger why put our country in danger for Ireland they have the same fruits as ireland so why not hold the easier country ireland
you talk about RL issues but this has nothing to do with that this is 100% based on their in game actions.
There is only one way you can "release" us and that is freely with the hand of fruiendship offered. Any other way - It will not be you releasing us - we will release ourselves either by ourselves or with allied help. We will take our freedom & rub your nose in it \o/
lol, gtfo
Just like your namesake did to the Romans, eh?
You read the history of Britain & there is reference to the Boudicca level. In every Romano/British town & city - its a level of ash inches thick. So yes, in the end the Britons lost & Boudicca committed suicide - its the old story bravery & spirit always loses to planning & technology. But every sign of Roman occupation she burnt - right down to the foundations. So think about it , no doubt the UK may well win if it pursues its arrogant path but at a huge cost & great loss of face.
um, Ireland wasn't 'right there with France and Canada' during your 3 month wipe.
Ireland spearheaded that invasion against UK. That invasion was heavily funded by Ireland.
It was in response to a solid year of you trying to occupy us.
Britain DESERVED to be wiped that time. Earned it.
The Argies wipe you did not deserve.
First point: we were PTOed. There were quite a number of articles in our media about it.
Economic benefit, yeah.
Players can get TP medals by other means.
Military: Your military strength has ALWAYS been better than ours, but guess what, we've fucked you up on many occasions and vice versa. Every day that goes by without a peaceful solution represents an escalation of the probability that this will turn around and bite you in the ass. Long term, you're not going to hold Ireland. We're not France.
Politically: Many many people are fucking retarded. You have a huge war to fight, but would rather keep Ireland down? A simple MPP would prevent us from attacking you.
Remember when you had that idiot BigAnt in his third term he was just like MUFC nearly a replica after Norway, Canada Netherlands and some other invaded you guys they asked us to help WE could of put in the decisive blow but we didn't because we saw how idiotic your cp was and decided not to break the peace
This is how you treat us when same happens on our side well sorry but I would never be friends with people like UK
I am pleased to see the controversy I created (:
Voted and a very thought provoking article. Both nations have been kicking each other at every opportunity and if the people who can't distinguish between a game and real life can keep their dicks in check then maybe...maybe...Ireland and the eUK can begin a long standing friendship that benefits both.
Feck 'em. They had their chance. I would have loved to have seen a united Ireland and UK (in game only) and I mean completely merge the countries. But it seems the only way to do it is to keep them occupied.
There are a lot of cool eIrish people on my friends list though. It's just a pity that things couldn't have been different between us.
To paraphrase a famous Irishman, Michael O'Leary: "we are the fuckers and you are our fuckees"
Sensible of Bohemond to think about stopping the tit-for-tat while you are on the up side. As Dish & Kravenn said when the shoe was on the other foot, the game is cyclical. The thing is, most of our friends are anti-TWO, and that is the single biggest influence on eIrish Foreign Policy direction, imo. Historically, you guys have been much more, let's say pragmatic, in relation to moving in and out of alliances. Younger eUKers would do well to bear that in mind when bandying about the term "backstabber", you sound like eIndonesians complaining about the use of bots.
Voted, btw.
Ireland is a country so dysfunctional it makes Gordie shore look like the Waltons
why would we ever want to be allies with them?
Should Ireland be our Bros?
No
\o/