~Atlantis: The Lesser of Two Evils~
Benn Dover
It is only in recent events that I have begun to notice a huge difference between Atlantis and Peace. In case those who are reading did not know, a talk of peace, a talk of negotiations, was to be held this morning, Sunday the 11th. Topics that were going to be discussed were anything that the two alliances wanted to talk about, including wars that are going on in South America, Europe, and Asia.
Around two days ago, though, Germany, along with a great deal of Peace members, started resistance wars in Sweden as an act of aggression against not only Sweden, but all of Atlantis, seeing as Atlantis countries shortly after became heavily involved in the war as well.
The meeting for negotiations was set up a week or two ago. Peace's heavy involvement in the German resistance wars was a diplomatically immature and disrespectful move. Why would these events take place when Peace knows that a discussion was going to take place the next day?
One thing has become obvious - Peace can't get anything done without war being the solution. War is NOT always the solution, contrary to popular Peace belief. If you want Germany to love you and get its regions back, you can simply ask. Sure, you've asked Sweden before, but what about Atlantis? Personally, I, during my two months as president and current month as Secretary of State, have received only one PM asking me to talk about things, and that was recently with regard to the Iranian wars. Once, in 70 days, was I approached by a member of Peace trying to seek out a reasonable solution. Elvea never contacted me. She just propose peace. N3m0 never contacted me, he just spoke out against me in his articles. Sparta Kratos never contacted me, he just declared war on Argentina following N3m0. DKN never contacted me, he just formulated an all-out war against Sweden with the help of Peace. I'll admit that Arthk of Portugal has contacted me in the past as well, in an attempt to end the Portuguese war with America. Peace, please, just realize that when you try and talk to us, like what was planned for today, we react much more respectfully and kindly than when you just jump into things without prior notification or negotiation. In both the cases of Portugal and Iran, the US has not made aggressive moves. My attempts to stop the Argentinian war was disrupted by Indonesia's and Brazil's lack of willingness to negotiate with me.
Peace, you seem to always be the instigators. Sure, Romania attacks Russia, but what's the difference between Romania-Russia and Iran-India/China? Both are situations in which countries are attacking with little prior justification (at least Romania wrote articles explaining their wars) for conquest, yet Romania gets attacked for being the bullies of Erepublik. Romania isn't the bully of erep, Peace is. Arthk, Amirpatapon, Gladdos, I respect all of you for talking things out with me, personally, instead of just being aggressive. Arthk was against the Portuguese-American war. Amirpatapon is against the Iran-South Korean war. Gladdos is against almost any modern wars. I respect all of these decisions, but I wish that your mentalities had more of an influence on the rest of Peace.
Atlantis is not the same way as Peace. We do not do things just because we can't talk them out. We do not take forever to create negotiations. In the case of France and Switzerland, I ask, how can you argue "But we were talking about it!" when V1 was out for more than a month?
Peace needs to learn one golden rule - the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Thanks again for reading.
~Benn Dover
Secretary of State, Media Mogul~
P.S. If you want to be an ambassador for the eUS, contact John Jay, Head of Outgoing Ambassadors, or myself.
Comments
4 ATLANTIS!
Voted.
Good article. Voted!
"War is NOT always the solution, contrary to popular Peace belief."
No it's not. Sometimes you can just politically takeover a country and bam INSTANT WIN! Gawd PEACE.
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Very good and completely agreed
I'd comment more stuff, but I'm way tired from writing one of my other articles 😕
What Iran-South Korean war?
Voted. Atlantis FTW
Nice Article
Voted
I'd comment more stuff, but I'm way tired from talking to tons of ppl 😕
It is obvious that Peace is the Axis to our Allies and we must keep them from taking over for we know that their are good people within thier countries, they are just letting the wrong element rule their nations.
you are right benn. ATLANTIS doesnt use war to slove their problems.
they use political takeovers 🙂
BENN,
Why are you so angry with Peace or Iran.You devastated the golds and power of US just for your several wars, Today you changed your diplomacy by this """""War is NOT always the solution, contrary to popular Peace belief.""""" .I think you try to be active in politics for the next president election and Peace or Atlantis are means for carrying out your design.
How about France war..?
Good article -- voted.
I'm assuming Pakistan is this "squeaky wheel".
Reasonable.
Simply put, everyone's unorganized in PEACE. And the one's that are, and want peaceful agreements between both alliances, seem to not speak up or get shut out by those acting too quickly with war.
Granted, Atlantis is no different. But at least we're trying to do something, rather than running around with our heads cut off.
While I agree with what you're saying in this article it does seem like a little of a 180 on your part Benn. You were all for the war with France that you started, and now you're lecturing on how war shouldn't be the first option. Just seems a little strange to me. Nothing personal.
CONKR PEACE!
Alliances can be benificial, but for that to be so, they must be smaller. Large alliances like Atlantis and PEACE both only fan the flames of war by polarizing global politics. Both alliances are an unnecessary evil.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/safe-formed-and-clarification-of-rw-in-russia-720968/1
This is great stuff. Your articles really do state their point well!
Why do they call it PEACE when it is so warlike?
Nice article. Pretty much agreed. 😁
ATLANTIS is failing _all_ military actions.
Your only way to win, as a lot people said already, is political takeover.
Sweden already threatens Germany to be the next target for political takeover.
2 weeks ago there was a meeting to negotiate ceasefire/peace between Spain and Portugal. Portugal wants to negotiate peace also for all the wars started because of MPP. They only words that Spanish were able to say were "no" and "we need to speak with ATLANTIS".
I disagree with the "no, we don't want ceasefire/peace with Italy/France/Brasil/Venezuela, only with Portugal", as I disagree with "We as Spain cannot decide by our own, we need to speak with the rest of ATLANTIS": a meeting with all representatives is too hard to achieve?
And Meiko can confirm my words 🙂
Atlantis is not the same way as Peace. We do not do things just because we can't talk them out. We do not take forever to create negotiations. In the case of France and Switzerland, I ask, how can you argue "But we were talking about it!" when V1 was out for more than a month?
What about the negotiations between Sweden and Germany? Have you got anything to say? Why so much time making negotiations, too?
This article is full of hipocrisy... 😕
And the point arthk shows kills you...
"we'll keep the war open 'cause we might need to attack you in the future and it would be a waste of gold to declare war again" --> So... which side are you, Benn?
Always the same propaganda 😛 This time though you were much more diplomatic about it, saying that ATLANTIS too has bad guys and such.
Nice try, but you still fail to show how PEACE has wanted peace for a long time. We didn't want the war in France to keep going on and wanted a ceasefire, DENIED. We wanted a ceasefire from Spains part to all other PEACE countries like arthk said, DENIED too.
On the german side they are seeking independance, and since ATLANTIS isn't good at keeping their word or to respect their members decisions( Romanian attack to Russia, freed by Norway...)
the germans thought good to seek independance without having to worry for their freedom working with PEACE instead of ATLANTIS.
As for:
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Ohhh really? I guess thats your case with Switzerland and France right? Wait a minute, actually didn't all ATLANTIS attack France without asking first why they had stopped the resistance in switzerland?
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And for a last note, Romania attacked Russia, an eNation that has many active players. Iran attacked India,China and South Korea, al nations that have takenover governments with, how many active players?, 5? Really, in the end, China,India and South Korea have just passed from the control of Pakistan and Japan with the consent of both nations, whereas Romania has attacked RUssia without having the other ATLANTIS nations informed properly, especially Norway, which had given independance to Russia...
If I've got time I'll write another article about this, just so Americans know what really is going on...
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"Peace, please, just realize that when you try and talk to us, like what was planned for today, we react much more respectfully and kindly than when you just jump into things without prior notification or negotiation"
Ohh really?...***
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-operation-french-toast--706047/1
what about that benn, WAR isn't solution, isn't it ?
for peace..:d
I love broke the balls to ATLANTIS 😃
~Operation French Toast~
do you remember this operation 😃
I agree with mostly everything in this article, but the Romanian takeover of Russia with the tactics that were employed was unethical.
Argh!! I really need to keep reminding myself to Copy the text to clipboard before posting the comment ;_;
Ill rewrite it after dinner, bbl
If war is not the solution for you then, Russia?
Atlantis could have moved there people to work, but no lets conquer it.
what a huge amount of words!!
wow...
"Amirpatapon is against the Iran-South Korean war. I respect all of these decisions, but I wish that your mentalities had more of an influence on the rest of Peace."
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Yes, we ain't gonna take over SK, and I promised eChina bring them back some important regions... also I talked about it on PEACE IRC tonight.
amirpatapon
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hmmm
"War is NOT always the solution, contrary to popular Peace belief."
Lol. Ironic. 😉
"We do not take forever to create negotiations."
But yo DO take forever to defend your allies...mmm... :/
Arthk: I'm not gonna respond to anything other than this, because I told you I wasn't in the chat but...
"About the Germany issue, I don't know details but it seems that Sweden was actually stalling the diplomacy in order to avoid the return of the lands. I cannot be sure of this, but the fact was that Germany was fed up with the delays and with the bureaucracy, so it decided to take action, going for the liberation (note that there aren't any kind of quotes or whatsoever) of their original regions. Can't blame them either, I know what's like when we're talking about our homeland."
^ The same could be said for Switzerland and France.
YA ATLANTIS KICK ASS
~Atlantis: The ////// more stupid and disorganized of Two Evils~
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With all due respect wasn't just few days ago which some inthe US we praising the Romainan advance to the boarders of Iran/PEACE?
As I agree WAR is not needed (for those of you who know me as a very peaceful president of the past Iran) yet you have to agree that Iran's war is nothing like other wars taking place now by other countries.
Iran's government talked a lot with Pakistani & Chinese government. You can see the contract in forum.
You say we Iranians didn't write any article about war. This is because of our language. You couldn't understand our language and couldn't see plenty of our articles about war. Didn't you see the article named "Iran's Peace message"?
Are you blind, Benn?
At last, Iran-Pakistan War, Iran-India War and Iran-China war is now only a part of history. Talk about Romania-Russia War!
The congress of Russia is FULL OF ROMANIAN GOONS (They wanted to takeover Iranian congress, too). And you saw the result: West Siberian region easily conquered.
Open your eyes please. Every citizen in eRep. saw the lose of USA in France war. Do you want to say US had no aggressive politics?
Ha ha, nice joke my friend!
One amasing thing: Here is as same as real world. @ real world US & Israel are real terrorists, but the world says Islam and Iran as terrorists, and here, Romania and Iran....
voted bro u got it