You are good enough, only when you are good enough!
Day 1,674, 05:30
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by dodial
In Response to - If you are good enough, You are old enough! - an overly critical and self centred commentary.
I have avoided conflict in this game for the 11 months I have been in it. When I joined, there was raging war between the policy and aovel/kualkerr camp. I became a party to none, simply beacause I believe every person, no matter what his outlook has something to give. I believed the same about you (although you are disappointing me a bit now
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badda-beep..... badda-boop.... badda-boop..... badda-beep.............
... So, I have a question. Which might brand me as a impudent newbie or a wanna-be or a naive conflict theorist. Frankly, I don't mind any of the titles as long as there are people who may conform with this rather suppressed outcry.
you are hardly the victim to are potraying yourself as.
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Before last congress elections, I candidated for congress. Mr. President at that time, dodial, approached me 3 days before congress and ordered me to pull out of elections and a certain individual named 'Policy' was to be planted at my expense.
1. I never 'ordered' you. All messages I sent (to everyone)started with 'You are requested to..' or 'Can you please..'. Donot twist words to give them new meaning.
2, I approached you as a voice of the community, NOT the President.
3. I explained to every person the purpose of reaching a pre-election consensus. If you disagreed you where free to vote for yourself. There was no compulsion. You would not have won anyway.
4. Policy was NOT 'planted' in your place. He did not come in YOUR place. You never had a place. You are not really as important you think dear. We had around 23 possible candidates which we had to short list to 10 by an internal VOTE. Not by monopoly, Not by dictation. By Vote. You did not make the top 10 as did not 13 others. The only reason you were approached was to unify the vote against rogue invaders.
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Well, I didn't withdrew, however, I casted my vote for someone else at kualkerr's request at the final hour. Policy got elected. And after (and even before) being elected, he was AWOL. Nowhere to be seen. Dodial put 10k PKR bounty on his head. And when he finally returned, He was seen saying "Free Kashmir, Fuck Pakistan... Rawr". I was there.
1. I appreciate the fact that you voted for ePakistan as I have told you previously. Not for me or anybody else, but for ePakistan. You dont need to drag it though, because 60 odd other people did the same.
2. 10k bounty was light humour. You are obviously too new to understand that.
3. I will not defend the actions of the personality of Policy. He can do that quit effectively himself. What I will tell you though is that he has already done what he can as a congressman. i.e. Use his quota of proposals and CS passes. I hold nothing against him for being temporarily absent. RL is always more important.
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Earlier today, My aovelhanegra told me that I was withdrawn because elders had to consider a broader prospective and act accordingly. I must admit they did a fine job by revoking rights from a fresh willing blood and giving it away to an inactive. O I see strategy beyond comprehension here. Three cheers for the wise men in Pakistan's Holy Council of Elders.
1. None of your rights were revoked. Becoming a congress member is not a right is a privilege that needs to be earned through support of the people. Stop playing the victim. ALL we asked for was your vote. You had no compulsion. You were not going to win anyway.
2. The strategy is beyond your comprehension surely, because you donot understand the mechanics and the situation of that day.
3. Except for Policy and zafthfirst the other 8 were fresh blood. Dont twist the facts.
4. If Policy stands in an election, he will win regardless, he is NOT your replacement by any stretch of imagination, so stop repeating that.
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I have repeatedly being told that I am too young and green to be among the 'significant' people in ePakistan. Well I say fuck the age.. because if you are good enough, you are old enough! And I actually AM good enough. I might not have years of experience but I have inspiration from likes of Ishamael_Naeblis, who never let age get in their ways.
1. I have told you this before. Trust and committment is what is important. Not age. You were an untrusted new entrant in the last elections. There was NO way we were going to trust you with a seat when the axe of a PTO was hanging on our heads.
2. If you ARE good ENOUGH, then prove it. I have seen nothing but empty words from you till now. Take initiative, you dont need a congress seat for it. No one is stopping you. Those who work most for ePakistan dont have congress seats actually.
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Even now, I know about as much as any congress man of ePakistan would know, if not more. But I am thoroughly disillusioned by the political mess of a country ePakistan is, just like in real.
1. I suppose you do know it ALL don't you.
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And I would make my perspective very clear once again. I dont want gold or power or a seat in congress. It was never about that. It is about fair and just treatment of everyone with elders stop playing God!
1. I will beg to differ. Just because you were not shortlisted, the treatement is unfair? So it is only fair as long as YOU get the honey. Earn it. Dont just cry about it. Dingorider was a much more deserving candidate then you. I have not seen a word of complain from him. Do you know why? Because he cares for ePakistan more than he cares for himself. I salute you dingo.
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As a closing note, I would like to point out to you that you were made the vMoFA. A position much much more important than an inconsequential congressman. Would you care to explain how you have used that oppurtunity to further the cause of this eNation. 59 other people did not get that oppurtunity. Would you think it was unfair on them now? Do you think you have justified the role entrusted with you? Would you enlighten us with your plans for ePakistan?
As I have said before, when you come forward with something 'concrete', I will be the first to support you.
Chaoo,
I have avoided conflict in this game for the 11 months I have been in it. When I joined, there was raging war between the policy and aovel/kualkerr camp. I became a party to none, simply beacause I believe every person, no matter what his outlook has something to give. I believed the same about you (although you are disappointing me a bit now
🙂) I could reply to your trolling as well as you can imagine, but I refuse to be sucked in a war of meaningless words. You can have your high ground, I am just happy being a productive citizen. I am though going to correct factual inaccuracies and twists in your statements. It is NOT cool to misguide people.
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badda-beep..... badda-boop.... badda-boop..... badda-beep.............
... So, I have a question. Which might brand me as a impudent newbie or a wanna-be or a naive conflict theorist. Frankly, I don't mind any of the titles as long as there are people who may conform with this rather suppressed outcry.
you are hardly the victim to are potraying yourself as.
>>
Before last congress elections, I candidated for congress. Mr. President at that time, dodial, approached me 3 days before congress and ordered me to pull out of elections and a certain individual named 'Policy' was to be planted at my expense.
1. I never 'ordered' you. All messages I sent (to everyone)started with 'You are requested to..' or 'Can you please..'. Donot twist words to give them new meaning.
2, I approached you as a voice of the community, NOT the President.
3. I explained to every person the purpose of reaching a pre-election consensus. If you disagreed you where free to vote for yourself. There was no compulsion. You would not have won anyway.
4. Policy was NOT 'planted' in your place. He did not come in YOUR place. You never had a place. You are not really as important you think dear. We had around 23 possible candidates which we had to short list to 10 by an internal VOTE. Not by monopoly, Not by dictation. By Vote. You did not make the top 10 as did not 13 others. The only reason you were approached was to unify the vote against rogue invaders.
>>
Well, I didn't withdrew, however, I casted my vote for someone else at kualkerr's request at the final hour. Policy got elected. And after (and even before) being elected, he was AWOL. Nowhere to be seen. Dodial put 10k PKR bounty on his head. And when he finally returned, He was seen saying "Free Kashmir, Fuck Pakistan... Rawr". I was there.
1. I appreciate the fact that you voted for ePakistan as I have told you previously. Not for me or anybody else, but for ePakistan. You dont need to drag it though, because 60 odd other people did the same.
2. 10k bounty was light humour. You are obviously too new to understand that.
3. I will not defend the actions of the personality of Policy. He can do that quit effectively himself. What I will tell you though is that he has already done what he can as a congressman. i.e. Use his quota of proposals and CS passes. I hold nothing against him for being temporarily absent. RL is always more important.
>>
Earlier today, My aovelhanegra told me that I was withdrawn because elders had to consider a broader prospective and act accordingly. I must admit they did a fine job by revoking rights from a fresh willing blood and giving it away to an inactive. O I see strategy beyond comprehension here. Three cheers for the wise men in Pakistan's Holy Council of Elders.
1. None of your rights were revoked. Becoming a congress member is not a right is a privilege that needs to be earned through support of the people. Stop playing the victim. ALL we asked for was your vote. You had no compulsion. You were not going to win anyway.
2. The strategy is beyond your comprehension surely, because you donot understand the mechanics and the situation of that day.
3. Except for Policy and zafthfirst the other 8 were fresh blood. Dont twist the facts.
4. If Policy stands in an election, he will win regardless, he is NOT your replacement by any stretch of imagination, so stop repeating that.
>>
I have repeatedly being told that I am too young and green to be among the 'significant' people in ePakistan. Well I say fuck the age.. because if you are good enough, you are old enough! And I actually AM good enough. I might not have years of experience but I have inspiration from likes of Ishamael_Naeblis, who never let age get in their ways.
1. I have told you this before. Trust and committment is what is important. Not age. You were an untrusted new entrant in the last elections. There was NO way we were going to trust you with a seat when the axe of a PTO was hanging on our heads.
2. If you ARE good ENOUGH, then prove it. I have seen nothing but empty words from you till now. Take initiative, you dont need a congress seat for it. No one is stopping you. Those who work most for ePakistan dont have congress seats actually.
>>
Even now, I know about as much as any congress man of ePakistan would know, if not more. But I am thoroughly disillusioned by the political mess of a country ePakistan is, just like in real.
1. I suppose you do know it ALL don't you.
🙂. The congress seat is not about knowledge. It is about trust. Because every congressman has an all important vote to cast and CS passes to give. This has nothing to do with knowledge. If you have enough knowledge and drive then get up and do something for ePakistan. Don't just keep bantering about it.
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And I would make my perspective very clear once again. I dont want gold or power or a seat in congress. It was never about that. It is about fair and just treatment of everyone with elders stop playing God!
1. I will beg to differ. Just because you were not shortlisted, the treatement is unfair? So it is only fair as long as YOU get the honey. Earn it. Dont just cry about it. Dingorider was a much more deserving candidate then you. I have not seen a word of complain from him. Do you know why? Because he cares for ePakistan more than he cares for himself. I salute you dingo.
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>
As a closing note, I would like to point out to you that you were made the vMoFA. A position much much more important than an inconsequential congressman. Would you care to explain how you have used that oppurtunity to further the cause of this eNation. 59 other people did not get that oppurtunity. Would you think it was unfair on them now? Do you think you have justified the role entrusted with you? Would you enlighten us with your plans for ePakistan?
As I have said before, when you come forward with something 'concrete', I will be the first to support you.
Chaoo,
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Dodial o7
Oh, btw, I candidated for congress way before the Elders were formed. Plus, I candidated from my own party, PRF, one that I founded. I didn't ask for the Elders support either, and I wasn't inactive beforehand, I spoke with quite a few people. I prefer to talk with people I like in private, rather than with people I quite obviously dislike in public (#ePakistan) as they usually have no substance to offer me. That said, these comment-posts are too short, so, I need to go and scavenge forum stuff.
On a /side note/, it seems my mere existence has one again ressurected the media. Q_Q.
Thanks dodial =}
yah loog 6 din kay baad aatay hay aur aa kay aik aritcle lik daytay hay, kay dosray logo nay yah kiya , wo kiya.
main nay tu in ko ignore karna start kar dayna hay.
bhaar main jay in jaysay loog, jo khud tu kuch kartay nahi hay aur dosro ko be kuch nahi karnay daytay hay.
Relax everyone. The next 2 elections are really in danger. Forget these petty issues and lets concentrate on keeping ePakistan safe.
'Lets see if the elders are as good as we all hope they are'
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Policy got the media active 😃
Dodial, stop acting like a jerk! 🙂 The kid was right about everything he said and I support him. So. To you, I will tell you once again; ****** Shit. I am sorry. I Can't say bad words to you. 😃 Because of the person I am working for. He forbade me to tell you to do things to yourself. Since he's my boss, I have to listen to him. 😛
Annihilator10 +1
There should be a clear guideline for those who want to join ePakistan and how they can rise and take on more responsibility.
However, to be quite frank Maleficentt, the game of politics is sadly a lot more complicated than knowing what a congress member can do. It was dodial and his time who spent time negotiating with eChina to release Balochistan and that was only possible because dodial knew the President of eChina, it wasn't as simple as two-clicking.
I do agree however that some old guys give themselves too much self-importance of the shit they did in the past, those who do talk about all the important shit they did in the past have all had their main accounts banned because basically they were cheating, but I can assure you having been in ePakistan for over a year.
The council of eldars are solid, humble guys whose only objective is to see ePakistan grow, they at times act like pussys in front of some of the old guys but they do it out
they do it out of necessity rather by choice.
Apart from the PTO, Pakistan requires a massive baby-boom, organized MU's, organized political parties and all of those things are only possible when new guys pick up the ball and start getting involved. Congress is the least important, you got elected from your party, does your party even have a constitution?, website?, forum? irc channel? Helping new guys?, Guides? Supplies?
I'm learning a lot from these guys in eUSA and ePakistan has
long long way to go.
1. raao
2. aovelhanegra
3. av khan
4. dodial
5. bozli
6. Maveriq
7. Annihilator10
With the exception of Maveriq whom I have never spoken to, the rest are awesome guys and will help you as much as possible and whenever possible.
Trust them, next congress elections I'm sure they will let you run, provided you are a verified Pakistani and not some PTO guy. The fact that you know kualkerr is already disturbing. He is the biggest loser from all the loser old clan.
😁 "The fact that you know kualkerr is already disturbing. He is the biggest loser from all the loser old clan."
- Now I wonder who or what made you ever think that! : DD
Thank You for the interesting insight TheJakal. I dont, however, know how does being an elder justify abusing people, specially girls, on channel main. Anyway, I have learned my lesson. And the lesson is quite clear:
Elders are awesome guys. You should obey them and they will help you grow. Question them, and you will find your head on a spike at the city gates.
I will not forget it 🙂
>spike at city gates
Only if you can't handle the fire and fart it back into their faces, yo.
@maleficentt you can do what you like, but to run epakistan it's a lot harder than a couple articles and ideas. As for abusing people on irc this is an issue on epakistan but I think it will be addressed soon. As for abusing girls, seriously? That's a 19th century card to play and a weak one.