What happened to Democracy?
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by SKYJACKED
What happened to democracy??
Our previous goverment had a tough decission to make about what the future for e-Nl would look like.
Would we stay neutral or should we commit to an alliance.
And if so which alliance would be the best choice for a long lasting coorperation and a more properus e-NL
Because the decission would made a difference and influence on the future of e-NL , there was decided to keep a referendum among the citizens of e-NL.
Unfortunately this decission was made at the end of the goverments term , and was suggested to do that in the month of may after the elections.
Now that the elections have past and a significant powershift has occurred the plans of the previous Goverment have changed on the matter.
The new president and his crew didn't think it was important enough or would take to long to organize a referendum.
So the motion was made to scratch the referendum to save some time and speed up the process by just making it a congressional vote on the matter.
This certainly would speed up the whole process , but is this really what we all want and push aside democracy in e-NL.
By doing it this way a few options that would be available in the referendum are set aside to make it a yes or no vote in the matter of joining up with Asgard.
Not that Asgard would be a bad choice , but we have to weigh our other options to.
Other options on this matter are joining CoT , Nan or keep staying neutral.
Staying neutral would be the worsed decission only because now that EDEN almost has disolved and split up , the world is rapidly going towards a bi-polar world.
We as e-NL have to choose a side in the matter or we'll be wiped for ever and not trusted by anyone
This will have the concequence that no other nations will feel the urge to help us out against our polish oppressors.
So this option to stay neutral isn't really a option if we want to survive.
The other options joining Asgard or Cot are pretty much the best choices we as e-NL could make.
This because Nan (Non Affiliated Nations) is geographical a difficult road to take.
It all could work out fine if in the future more nations will join em , but at the moment Nan is to scattered arround the world to defend itself against any agression from the 2 largest alliances.
So keeping that aspect in mind there would be 2 choices left Asgard or CoT.
Asgard on that matter would be a save & solid choice , we have alot of friends within that alliance and they would treat e-NL as an equal member.
Loyalty and commitment are strong values within Asgard.
And if they would accept us to join them it would be a solid choice and a step towards a better future.
CoT therefor is a much more powerfull alliance and probably gonna end up in a total war with TWO.
How the outcome of that battle will be that is still a geussing game.
However when CoT comes out on top of this battle and we have joined them before that World War starts , the future of e-NL looks alot brighter.
Just because that "to the Victors goes the spoils"
Does it end up different and CoT loses that war , nothing will change in e-NL and we'll be wiped for many more months.
Also when we would join CoT , the negotiations (that some players are in favor off) with Poland will be out of the question the moment we'll join CoT
Because the decission is gonna effect our country in a big way , my opinion is that all citizens of e-NL should have a vote in this matter.
Making it only a congressional vote , could give the citizens of e-NL the feeling that it really doesn't matter what the think or feel and make em indifferent to the whole subject.
With the result that the country that is already devided to the core , would only spiral down into a discussion again weather the right choice was made or not.
Therefor i would like to appeal to our goverment to take the long road towards the decission and keep that referendum on he matter.
Than nobody can complain afterward , just because it was the majority that voted us in whatever direction the country goes.
To end this artcle i wish our goverment all the strength and wisdom is this difficult decission and hope they will make the right choice for e-NL's future
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Congress gets to chose which alternative they prefer. Actually the very same congress that originally decided to go for the referendum.
I'm sure they will make the right decision.
And by that I mean that they won't easily let go of the referendum...
I personally don't think the other alliances are a good idea.
But doing this without referendum is just stupid. We want the whole population to support a change in alliance status, to guarantee some stability in our decisions. Just like when leaving EDEN we first held a referendum.
True, on the other hand we didn't had a referendum when we joined EDEN. So it's up to Congress. They can choose how they want it to be handled.
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WE DIDN'T ELECT A CONGRESS THIS TERM... So this is just a self appointed group.. interesting concept of 'democracy'... at least the pink are happy that we are doing very little to resist their oppression! but at least we have a good grasp on who to give medals to during to government meetings in the hotel convention center... lol
It's the same congress we had in-game after the last elections. So it is not a self-appointed group. We elected them for a term, but the forum term lasts longer than a month this time, because no new congress has been elected in-game.
If you read good. They is a vote about the referendum. Congres wants a referendum and the CP also. So next time read better, before you accuse the CP. There is also an other vote and that's nessesary if the people decide that they want to join ASGARD.
there are 2 threads open atm, 1 revoke Asgard referendum & 1 vote asgard membership.
To me thats a little getting ahead of things.
And i'm not accusing the CP , i'm just letting the people know what the intentions are.
And clearly the CP stated that he was in favor of NOT keeping a referendum coz it would slow the proces down.
So take ur advice and obide to that and keep ur accusations to ur self
If I am right he is not in favor of a referendum ingame. But not sure.
so you acuse me of accusing the CP and don't even know yourself for sure what his thoughts are on this subject......
before critisicing me or others you should read in to the material ursel m8.
I have seen NO statement of the CP that he is against the referendum, but it could that I missed a comment. So I am not sure. You can easelly show me where he says that he is against the referendum, but you are reacting angry back towards me. I hope you will react nicer the next time when somebody says something to you that doesn't match with your opinion/statement. To keep it nicer in eNL.
reacting nicely..... you started accusing me didn't you...... so than be prepared for a s*** storm........and don't come whining to me that i'm not nice......
But you can read here that he wants to change the procedure and why
http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=11326
Then grow up and get used to other opinions 🙂
And for what did I accused you?
And you are right it stands there on the bottom of the comment I missed that.
I don't mind other opinions , but you made accusations towards me , now that it shows ur accusations where a bit to soon and wrong you tell me to grow up...........
This feels like i'm discussing something with my 15y.o daughter ....... but that aside.
Take ur advice and apply it to urself 😉
For what did I accused you?
just take a good look at ur first comment , something about reading correctly ..... and me accusing the CP ...... dunno but you seem to only recollect what you prefer to recollect
More an advice then accusing. I said next time. 🙂
lets leave at that then , coz like i said before , i get the feeling i'm discussing things with my 15 y.o daughter and she doesn't even play this game
My preference goes to CoT, because they are a very strong alliance, but if we do that, we'll be traitors to our old allies
The strength of an alliance is irrelevant if they don't fight for us. We need a brotherhood, a union where we fight for our friends, and they return the favour.
We left EDEN because it was no longer a brotherhood. The big countries always got the military support. I'm afraid the same might happen with CoT.
A smaller alliance, such as Asgard will be more like a brotherhood, although its power may be small compared to the big alliances.
My opinion is that we need referendum, and only citizens with 25 lvl and high can vote.
There is no point having a referendum through congress, we have none at the moment, are unlikely to have one in the near future, and any one we did have would be filled with appointees designed to curry one stance or the other.
Let's face it, anybody who is still here in eNetherlands is a loyal and genuine citizen. As per Thanatos I agree, such is the importance of the referendum, only citizens over level X should be allowed to vote. I am also in favour of an open referendum, so no hiding places for agenda monkeys.
I do not favour CoT for Holland, there is no history as far as I can see. I recommend Asgard and negotiation with Poland. I would suggest we agree to remain neutral in the forthcoming war in return for all our regions back. Failure to agree and we will fight for CoT.
Hail to Democracy!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/poll-on-alliances-2258454/1/20
A referendum is mosty a very good idea, but in case that it is totaly clear that a large majority of usis thinking that Ansgar is the best option,we do not need it.
we don't have enough active citizens to make a referendum valid.
Asgard (most popular option) has to be ratified by congress anyway.