VOTING FOR eMONEY - ILLEGAL OR NOT? (EN, SRB, PL)
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by Marcomannius
VOTING FOR eMONEY - ILLEGAL OR LEGAL? (EN)
Hi all, this article is focusing on the question of legality and advertising of "money voters". As you all know, voting for money has been with us for quite some time, and what kept it going, for sure, was a need for extra money on one side and of course need for MM medal(s), votes for articles in political campaigns and so forth on other side. Recently quite a few articles were removed from citizens newspapers that were advertising this type of activity. Many players, including my self, were rewarded with FP point and the official reason was of course - "Thou shall not contaminate the New World with filth such as External advertising, Spam,Insults, Pornography, Vulgarity or Racism."
Now, I haven't seen anywhere that voting for money was illegal, so setting that aside we should examine why is this "external advertising". If you take a good look at it, website(s) that are dedicated to mass voting focused ONLY on eRepublik should not be treated as external. Why should they? Voting is happening in eWorld, money transactions are also happening inside of the game... the only reason why this websites exists is because eRepublik does not have mechanism that would manage/coordinate these type of activities. That is the only reason. So if this is all that it makes it "external" than we should remove all the links to IRC and other websites and forums that are strictly dedicated to eRepublik. This however does not make any sense and personaly I can't see how a website that is dedicated to eRepublik, and also created in order to bring a new dimension to the game, is being treated as external.
This of course rises another question - who is reporting these articles as external advertising? My guess is that it was the competition. If this is the only reason why this is happening then I would ask for people in charge for these infringements to pay close attention to this issue and don't judge soley on a nymber of reports, as I'm sure was the case.
WHY VOTE FOR MONEY?
The question is valid. Why vote for money? Isn't this a cheat? Why should someone have a vote, just because he's able to pay for it and the other poor guy or a girl who write good articles have to write their a**es of in order to get the attention?
Not really. Those who wish to read a good article will still vote your article and give you a sub if they like your writings. They will come back or recommend you to someone... those who vote/sub for meney won't. The sole purpose of voting for money is getting attention. That's it. It is no different than paying for advertisement in RL. Down side to this is that good articles get squeezed out of top 5, but just take a look at google, youtube, or any other web giant... they all put their advertisements first. This is the nature of capitalism, nature of economy if you like. And eRepublik admins could mess things up for money voters just by adding a "mute" button... if you don't like newspapers you press "mute" and no matter how many votes article gets, if it's in muted newspapers you will not see it.
And this is really the very point I'm making here - all of these changes that we see on eRepublik, votes for money, selling DMGs, renting storage space (that's new, sort of), borowing money with interests... that is a spirit of eEconomy. people invent these new things in order to earn something new. I think eRepublik administrators should be excited about the phenomena that new websites are emerging just so eRepublik can be enjoyed more. In RL we have vast number of markets and they rise and fall every day. eRepublik game developers are, in my oppinion, setting boundaries of this game too tight. This game has the potential, but it has been suppressed on every turn and this is one of those cases.
All great IT enterpreneurs have become successfull by listening to people needs and responding to them acordingly. If you are rigid, you will face the consequences, and in RL that is called the competition.
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GLASANJE ZA eNOVAC - NELEGALNO ili LEGALNO? (SR
Zdravo svima, ovaj članak se fokusira na pitanje zakonitosti i reklamiranje "placenih glasaca". Kao što svi znate, glasanje za novac već duže vreme postoji, a ono što ovaj fenomen odrzava u zivotu je potreba za dodatnim novcem na jednoj strani i, naravno, potreba za MM medaljom, glasovima, promocijom političkih kampanja i tako dalje na drugoj strani. Nedavno poprilično veliki broj članaka je uklonjen iz novina igraca koji su reklamirali ovu vrstu "aktivnosti". Mnogi igrači, uključujući i mene, su nagrađeni sa FP poenima a zvanični razlog je naravno - ". Ne zagađuj novi svet sa prljavštinama kao što su externo reklamiranje, spam, uvrede, pornografija, vulgarnosti ili rasizam"
Ja nisam nigde video da je glasanje za novac nelegalno, tako da cemo ostaviti po strani ovaj razlog i treba da vidimo zašto se ovo kvalifikuje kao "externo oglašavanje". Ako dobro pogledate, sajt(ovi) koji su posvećeni masovnom glasanju fokusiranim samo na eRepublik ne treba tretirati kao spoljni. Zašto bi? Glasanje se dešava u eSvetu, novčane transakcije se takođe dešavaju unutar igre ... Jedini razlog zašto ovi sajtovi postoje zbog toga sto eRepublik nema mehanizam pomocu koga bi se koordinirale ovakve vrste aktivnosti. To je jedini razlog. Dakle, ako je to sve što ih čini "externim" onda bi trebalo da uklonimo i sve linkove ka IRC kanalima i drugim internet sajtovima i forumima koji su strogo posvećene eRepubliku. To, međutim, nema nikakvog smisla. Ja lično ne mogu da vidim razlog zbog koga se sajt koji je posvećen eRepubliku i stvoren da unese novu dimenziju igri, tretira kao externi.
Tu dolazimo do sledeceg pitanja - ko je prijavljivao ove članke kao spoljno oglašavanje? Moja pretpostavka je da je u pitanju konkurencija. Ako je to jedini razlog zbog cega se uklanjaju ovi clanci onda molim ljude zadužene za ove prekršaje da obrate pažnju na ovo pitanje i ne sude SAMO na osnovu broja prijavljenih prekrsaja.
ZAŠTO GLAS ZA NOVAC?
Pitanje je validno. Zašto glasati za novac? Nije li to varanje na neki nacin? Zašto bi neko dobio glas, samo zato što je u stanju da plati za to a druge mucenici koji pišu dobre članke moraju da se napate kako bi privukli pažnju?
Nije bas tako. Oni koji žele da čitaju dobar članak će ipak dati svoj glas i sub ako im se dopadaju tekstovi. Vrlo verovatno ce se i vracati i preporučiti clanak nekome... oni koji glasaju/sub za novac neće. Jedina svrha glasanja za novac je skretanje pažnje. To je jedini razlog pored MM medalje. Ako malo pazljivije pogledate to se ne razlikuje ni malo od plaćanja reklame u realnom zivotu. Losa strana ovoga je ta sto dobri tekstovi bivaju istisnuti iz top 5. Ali samo pogledajte google, youtube, ili bilo koje druge web gigante ... svi ce prvo stavili reklame pa ostale sadrzaje. To je priroda kapitalizma, prirode ekonomije. eRepublik administratori mogu lako da zakomplikuju stvari za prodavce glasova samo dodavanjem "mute" dugmeta ... ako vam se ne sviđaju novine pritisnete "mute" i bez obzira koliko je glasova dobio članak, ako je u "mutiranim" novinama nećete ga videti.
A ovo je zapravo poenta na koju skrecem paznju - sve ove promene koje vidimo na eRepubliku, glasanje za e-novac, DMG na prodaju, iznajmljivanje skladišta (to je novost takodje), pozajmljivanje novca sa kamatama ... to je duh eEkonomije. Ljudi izmisljaju nove nacine da zarade novac. Mislim da eRepublik administratorima treba da budu prezadovoljni zbog cinjenice da se pojavljuju novi sajtovi koji sluze samo zato da bi doneli nesto novo u eRepublik. U RL imamo veliki broj tržišta koje rastu i propadaju svaki dan. Ljudi koji razvijaju eRepublik su, po mom misljenju, postavili suvise rigidna ogranicenja u igri. Ova igra ima potencijal, ali je isti potisnut na svakom koraku, a ovo je jedan od tih slučajeva.
Svi veliki IT giganti su postali uspešan slušajući potrebe ljudi i adekvatnim reagovanjem na te potrebe. Ako ste suvise rigidni i necete da se menjate prema potrebama trzista suočicete se sa posledicama, a u RL to se zove konkurencija.
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Głosowanie za ePieniądze – legalne czy nie? (PL)
Witam wszystkich, w tym artykule chciałbym poruszyć kwestię reklamowania głosowania za pieniądze i wypowiedzieć się na temat legalności tego. Jak wiecie, taka działalność istnieje dość długo. Powodem tego jest z jednej strony możliwość zarobienia dodatkowej gotówki i łatwego zdobycia medalu Magnata Medialnego, a z drugiej – potrzeba reklamy w kampaniach wyborczych itp. Ostatnio kilka artykułów reklamujących głosowanie za pieniądze zostało usuniętych przez administrację. Wielu graczy, włącznie ze mną, zostało ukaranych punktami wykroczeń (FP). Oficjalny powód to: „Nie powinieneś zaśmiecać Nowego Świata treścią zawierającą zewnętrzne reklamy, spam, wyzwiska, pornografię, wulgaryzmy albo o wydźwięku rasistowskim.”
Nigdzie nie widziałem zapisu zabraniającego głosowania za pieniądze. Powinniśmy zastanowić się, dlaczego artykuł o głosowaniu za pieniądze jest „reklamą zewnętrzną”. Patrząc na to chłodnym okiem, strony, które służą do głosowania skupiają się TYLKO na eRepublik i nie powinny być traktowane jako zewnętrzne. Czemu niby powinny? Głosowanie odbywa się w eŚwiecie, tak samo jest z transakcjami pieniężnymi … Jedynym powodem istnienia tych stron jest to, że eRepublik nie posiada wbudowanych mechanizmów, które pozwoliłyby zarządzać tego typu działalnością. To jest jedyny powód. Więc jeśli to wszystko sprawia, że strony do głosowania są „zewnętrzne” to powinniśmy także usunąć wszystkie linki do IRC-a i innych stron, które są ściśle związane z eRepublik. To nie ma sensu. Osobiście nie rozumiem, dlaczego strona poświęcona eRepublik i stworzona po to, by nadać grze nowy wymiar, jest traktowana jako zewnętrzna.
Tu oczywiście pojawia się inne pytanie: kto zgłasza te artykuły jako reklamy zewnętrzne? Domyślam się, że robi to konkurencja. Jeśli to jest powodem usuwania artykułów to proszę ludzi odpowiedzialnych za ocenę zgłoszeń o zwrócenie szczególnej uwagi na ten problem i o wydawanie osądu nie tylko na podstawie liczby zgłoszeń.
Dlaczego głosować za pieniądze?
Takie pytanie należało zadać. Dlaczego głosować za pieniądze? Czy nie jest to oszustwem? Dlaczego ktoś powinien dostać głos tylko dlatego, że jest on w stanie zapłacić za to, a dobrzy pisarze muszą wychodzić z siebie, by zdobyć uwagę?
Osoby, które chcą przeczytać dobry artykuł wciąż będą na niego oddawać głosy i zasubskrybują twoją gazetę, jeśli im się spodoba. Będą wracać i polecać cię innym. Ci, którzy głosują za pieniądze tego nie zrobią. Jedynym celem kupowania głosów jest zdobycie uwagi. Tylko tyle. Nie różni się to niczym od reklam w rzeczywistym świecie. Minusem tego jest to, ze dobre artykuły wylatują z top 5, ale wystarczy spojrzeć, że giganci jak Google czy YouTube także umieszczają swoje reklamy w najbardziej widocznym miejscu. Tak działa kapitalizm. Administratorzy eRepublik mogliby namieszać głosującym za pieniądze poprzez dodanie przycisku „ukryj”. Jeśli nie lubisz gazety, naciskasz ten przycisk i bez względu na liczbę głosów, nie zobaczysz żadnych artykułów tej gazety.
I teraz najważniejsza sprawa: wszystkie zmiany, które widzimy w eRepublik – głosowanie za pieniądze, sprzedaż obrażeń, wynajmowanie magazynów (to coś nowego!), pożyczanie pieniędzy z odsetkami – to jest duch eEkonomii. Ludzie wymyślają te nowe rzeczy, bo szukają nowych, lepszych sposobów na zarabianie pieniędzy. Uważam, że administratorzy eRepublik powinni być zafascynowani tym, że nowe strony internetowe powstają tylko po to, by ich gra była ciekawsza. W rzeczywistym świecie mamy ogrom rynków, które powstają i upadają. Moim zdaniem, twórcy eRepublik stworzyli zbyt duże ograniczenia tej gry. Ma ona potencjał, ale jest hamowana na każdym kroku. Problem poruszony w tym artykule jest jednym z przykładów.
Wszyscy wielcy przedsiębiorcy branży IT osiągnęli sukces, bo tworząc swoje produkty słuchali porad użytkowników. Jeśli tego nie robisz, będziesz musiał zmierzyć się z konsekwencjami. W rzeczywistym świecie nazywamy to konkurencją.
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VOTING FOR eMONEY - ILLEGAL OR NOT?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/voting-for-emoney-illegal-or-not-en-srb-pl--2291777/1/20
Hi all, this article is focusing on the question of legality and advertising of "money voters". As you all know, voting for money has been with us for quite some time, and what kept it going, for sure, was a need for extra money on one side and of course need for MM medal(s), votes for articles in political campaigns and so forth on other side. Recently quite a few articles were removed from citizens newspapers that were advertising this type of activity. Many players, including my self, were rewarded with FP point and the official reason was of course - "Thou shall not contaminate the New World with filth such as External advertising, Spam,Insults, Pornography, Vulgarity or Racism."
Now, I haven't seen anywhere that voting for money was illegal, so setting that aside we should examine why is this "external advertising". If you take a good look at it, website(s) that are dedicated to mass voting focused ONLY on eRepublik should not be treated as external. Why should they? Voting is happening in eWorld, money transactions are also happening inside of the game... the only reason why this websites exists is because eRepublik does not have mechanism that would manage/coordinate these type of activities. That is the only reason. So if this is all that it makes it "external" than we should remove all the links to IRC and other websites and forums that are strictly dedicated to eRepublik. This however does not make any sense and personaly I can't see how a website that is dedicated to eRepublik, and also created in order to bring a new dimension to the game, is being treated as external.
This of course rises another question - who is reporting these articles as external advertising? My guess is that it was the competition. If this is the only reason why this is happening then I would ask for people in charge for these infringements to pay close attention to this issue and don't judge soley on a nymber of reports, as I'm sure was the case.
WHY VOTE FOR MONEY?
The question is valid. Why vote for money? Isn't this a cheat? Why should someone have a vote, just because he's able to pay for it and the other poor guy or a girl who write good articles have to write their a**es of in order to get the attention?
Not really. Those who wish to read a good article will still vote your article and give you a sub if they like your writings. They will come back or recommend you to someone... those who vote/sub for meney won't. The sole purpose of voting for money is getting attention. That's it. It is no different than paying for advertisement in RL. Down side to this is that good articles get squeezed out of top 5, but just take a look at google, youtube, or any other web giant... they all put their advertisements first. This is the nature of capitalism, nature of economy if you like. And eRepublik admins could mess things up for money voters just by adding a "mute" button... if you don't like newspapers you press "mute" and no matter how many votes article gets, if it's in muted newspapers you will not see it.
And this is really the very point I'm making here - all of these changes that we see on eRepublik, votes for money, selling DMGs, renting storage space (that's new, sort of), borowing money with interests... that is a spirit of eEconomy. people invent these new things in order to earn something new. I think eRepublik administrators should be excited about the phenomena that new websites are emerging just so eRepublik can be enjoyed more. In RL we have vast number of markets and they rise and fall every day. eRepublik game developers are, in my oppinion, setting boundaries of this game too tight. This game has the potential, but it has been suppressed on every turn and this is one of those cases.
All great IT enterpreneurs have become successfull by listening to people needs and responding to them acordingly. If you are rigid, you will face the consequences, and in RL that is called the competition.
________________________________________________________________________________
GLASANJE ZA eNOVAC - NELEGALNO ili LEGALNO? (SR
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Zdravo svima, ovaj članak se fokusira na pitanje zakonitosti i reklamiranje "placenih glasaca". Kao što svi znate, glasanje za novac već duže vreme postoji, a ono što ovaj fenomen odrzava u zivotu je potreba za dodatnim novcem na jednoj strani i, naravno, potreba za MM medaljom, glasovima, promocijom političkih kampanja i tako dalje na drugoj strani. Nedavno poprilično veliki broj članaka je uklonjen iz novina igraca koji su reklamirali ovu vrstu "aktivnosti". Mnogi igrači, uključujući i mene, su nagrađeni sa FP poenima a zvanični razlog je naravno - ". Ne zagađuj novi svet sa prljavštinama kao što su externo reklamiranje, spam, uvrede, pornografija, vulgarnosti ili rasizam"
Ja nisam nigde video da je glasanje za novac nelegalno, tako da cemo ostaviti po strani ovaj razlog i treba da vidimo zašto se ovo kvalifikuje kao "externo oglašavanje". Ako dobro pogledate, sajt(ovi) koji su posvećeni masovnom glasanju fokusiranim samo na eRepublik ne treba tretirati kao spoljni. Zašto bi? Glasanje se dešava u eSvetu, novčane transakcije se takođe dešavaju unutar igre ... Jedini razlog zašto ovi sajtovi postoje zbog toga sto eRepublik nema mehanizam pomocu koga bi se koordinirale ovakve vrste aktivnosti. To je jedini razlog. Dakle, ako je to sve što ih čini "externim" onda bi trebalo da uklonimo i sve linkove ka IRC kanalima i drugim internet sajtovima i forumima koji su strogo posvećene eRepubliku. To, međutim, nema nikakvog smisla. Ja lično ne mogu da vidim razlog zbog koga se sajt koji je posvećen eRepubliku i stvoren da unese novu dimenziju igri, tretira kao externi.
Tu dolazimo do sledeceg pitanja - ko je prijavljivao ove članke kao spoljno oglašavanje? Moja pretpostavka je da je u pitanju konkurencija. Ako je to jedini razlog zbog cega se uklanjaju ovi clanci onda molim ljude zadužene za ove prekršaje da obrate pažnju na ovo pitanje i ne sude SAMO na osnovu broja prijavljenih prekrsaja.
ZAŠTO GLAS ZA NOVAC?
Pitanje je validno. Zašto glasati za novac? Nije li to varanje na neki nacin? Zašto bi neko dobio glas, samo zato što je u stanju da plati za to a druge mucenici koji pišu dobre članke moraju da se napate kako bi privukli pažnju?
Nije bas tako. Oni koji žele da čitaju dobar članak će ipak dati svoj glas i sub ako im se dopadaju tekstovi. Vrlo verovatno ce se i vracati i preporučiti clanak nekome... oni koji glasaju/sub za novac neće. Jedina svrha glasanja za novac je skretanje pažnje. To je jedini razlog pored MM medalje. Ako malo pazljivije pogledate to se ne razlikuje ni malo od plaćanja reklame u realnom zivotu. Losa strana ovoga je ta sto dobri tekstovi bivaju istisnuti iz top 5. Ali samo pogledajte google, youtube, ili bilo koje druge web gigante ... svi ce prvo stavili reklame pa ostale sadrzaje. To je priroda kapitalizma, prirode ekonomije. eRepublik administratori mogu lako da zakomplikuju stvari za prodavce glasova samo dodavanjem "mute" dugmeta ... ako vam se ne sviđaju novine pritisnete "mute" i bez obzira koliko je glasova dobio članak, ako je u "mutiranim" novinama nećete ga videti.
A ovo je zapravo poenta na koju skrecem paznju - sve ove promene koje vidimo na eRepubliku, glasanje za e-novac, DMG na prodaju, iznajmljivanje skladišta (to je novost takodje), pozajmljivanje novca sa kamatama ... to je duh eEkonomije. Ljudi izmisljaju nove nacine da zarade novac. Mislim da eRepublik administratorima treba da budu prezadovoljni zbog cinjenice da se pojavljuju novi sajtovi koji sluze samo zato da bi doneli nesto novo u eRepublik. U RL imamo veliki broj tržišta koje rastu i propadaju svaki dan. Ljudi koji razvijaju eRepublik su, po mom misljenju, postavili suvise rigidna ogranicenja u igri. Ova igra ima potencijal, ali je isti potisnut na svakom koraku, a ovo je jedan od tih slučajeva.
Svi veliki IT giganti su postali uspešan slušajući potrebe ljudi i adekvatnim reagovanjem na te potrebe. Ako ste suvise rigidni i necete da se menjate prema potrebama trzista suočicete se sa posledicama, a u RL to se zove konkurencija.
________________________________________________________________________________
Głosowanie za ePieniądze – legalne czy nie? (PL)
Witam wszystkich, w tym artykule chciałbym poruszyć kwestię reklamowania głosowania za pieniądze i wypowiedzieć się na temat legalności tego. Jak wiecie, taka działalność istnieje dość długo. Powodem tego jest z jednej strony możliwość zarobienia dodatkowej gotówki i łatwego zdobycia medalu Magnata Medialnego, a z drugiej – potrzeba reklamy w kampaniach wyborczych itp. Ostatnio kilka artykułów reklamujących głosowanie za pieniądze zostało usuniętych przez administrację. Wielu graczy, włącznie ze mną, zostało ukaranych punktami wykroczeń (FP). Oficjalny powód to: „Nie powinieneś zaśmiecać Nowego Świata treścią zawierającą zewnętrzne reklamy, spam, wyzwiska, pornografię, wulgaryzmy albo o wydźwięku rasistowskim.”
Nigdzie nie widziałem zapisu zabraniającego głosowania za pieniądze. Powinniśmy zastanowić się, dlaczego artykuł o głosowaniu za pieniądze jest „reklamą zewnętrzną”. Patrząc na to chłodnym okiem, strony, które służą do głosowania skupiają się TYLKO na eRepublik i nie powinny być traktowane jako zewnętrzne. Czemu niby powinny? Głosowanie odbywa się w eŚwiecie, tak samo jest z transakcjami pieniężnymi … Jedynym powodem istnienia tych stron jest to, że eRepublik nie posiada wbudowanych mechanizmów, które pozwoliłyby zarządzać tego typu działalnością. To jest jedyny powód. Więc jeśli to wszystko sprawia, że strony do głosowania są „zewnętrzne” to powinniśmy także usunąć wszystkie linki do IRC-a i innych stron, które są ściśle związane z eRepublik. To nie ma sensu. Osobiście nie rozumiem, dlaczego strona poświęcona eRepublik i stworzona po to, by nadać grze nowy wymiar, jest traktowana jako zewnętrzna.
Tu oczywiście pojawia się inne pytanie: kto zgłasza te artykuły jako reklamy zewnętrzne? Domyślam się, że robi to konkurencja. Jeśli to jest powodem usuwania artykułów to proszę ludzi odpowiedzialnych za ocenę zgłoszeń o zwrócenie szczególnej uwagi na ten problem i o wydawanie osądu nie tylko na podstawie liczby zgłoszeń.
Dlaczego głosować za pieniądze?
Takie pytanie należało zadać. Dlaczego głosować za pieniądze? Czy nie jest to oszustwem? Dlaczego ktoś powinien dostać głos tylko dlatego, że jest on w stanie zapłacić za to, a dobrzy pisarze muszą wychodzić z siebie, by zdobyć uwagę?
Osoby, które chcą przeczytać dobry artykuł wciąż będą na niego oddawać głosy i zasubskrybują twoją gazetę, jeśli im się spodoba. Będą wracać i polecać cię innym. Ci, którzy głosują za pieniądze tego nie zrobią. Jedynym celem kupowania głosów jest zdobycie uwagi. Tylko tyle. Nie różni się to niczym od reklam w rzeczywistym świecie. Minusem tego jest to, ze dobre artykuły wylatują z top 5, ale wystarczy spojrzeć, że giganci jak Google czy YouTube także umieszczają swoje reklamy w najbardziej widocznym miejscu. Tak działa kapitalizm. Administratorzy eRepublik mogliby namieszać głosującym za pieniądze poprzez dodanie przycisku „ukryj”. Jeśli nie lubisz gazety, naciskasz ten przycisk i bez względu na liczbę głosów, nie zobaczysz żadnych artykułów tej gazety.
I teraz najważniejsza sprawa: wszystkie zmiany, które widzimy w eRepublik – głosowanie za pieniądze, sprzedaż obrażeń, wynajmowanie magazynów (to coś nowego!), pożyczanie pieniędzy z odsetkami – to jest duch eEkonomii. Ludzie wymyślają te nowe rzeczy, bo szukają nowych, lepszych sposobów na zarabianie pieniędzy. Uważam, że administratorzy eRepublik powinni być zafascynowani tym, że nowe strony internetowe powstają tylko po to, by ich gra była ciekawsza. W rzeczywistym świecie mamy ogrom rynków, które powstają i upadają. Moim zdaniem, twórcy eRepublik stworzyli zbyt duże ograniczenia tej gry. Ma ona potencjał, ale jest hamowana na każdym kroku. Problem poruszony w tym artykule jest jednym z przykładów.
Wszyscy wielcy przedsiębiorcy branży IT osiągnęli sukces, bo tworząc swoje produkty słuchali porad użytkowników. Jeśli tego nie robisz, będziesz musiał zmierzyć się z konsekwencjami. W rzeczywistym świecie nazywamy to konkurencją.
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VOTING FOR eMONEY - ILLEGAL OR NOT?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/voting-for-emoney-illegal-or-not-en-srb-pl--2291777/1/20
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Martinoz, the fact that your party has the UE logo and the hammer and sickle is really funny.
Any consciencious marxist-leninist will be totally against the UE, I think you guys are just opportunists and blatherers.
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An "eurocommie" is not a marxist-leninist nor never will be, he's just a revisionist and a traitor to the proletariat.
GET YOUR VOTES HERE: snipurl.com/voters
Better dead than red!
Good article, voted!
Za długie, nie chciało mi się czytać 🙂
It's not that long, it's just written in two languages... soon polish as well (I hope so)...
"VOTING FOR eMONEY - ILLEGAL OR NOT?"
wrong question
it's legal; perhaps the question is: is this right or wrong
very silly question ,still; it's just a game. very simple game
I'm actually saying it's right, as well as legal.
and you are right 😃
VOTED HARD
There are unwritten laws aiming to preserve fairness and decency.
By those laws, it's illegal. You know it is, but you still sell decency and fairness for money. That tells much about you.
What is indecent about paying someone to vote your article? Why would that be wrong, in any way? What you get buy buying votes is an oportunity for someone to read your article, that's it. What wrong are you doing to anyone with this action? It's nonsense.
Of course it is undecent.
See, I want to read quality articles, not those written by wealthy writers. And purpose of votes is to point out good articles.
If you buy votes, I can't find good articles anymore, and yours are certainly shite, as soon as you have to buy votes, so you are unfair to me and those good writers.
But you knew that already, didn't you? You just don't care for fairness, that's all.
I am sorry, your comfort in search for quality articles is not a paramount that determines what is decent and what isn't. Not only that it's not important, it's not even relevant.
You see, you can hate work in RL as well. You have to work 8 hours for someone that has nothing to do with you other than give you money. That's reality, and it has nothing to do with your comfort. You might say it's not decent to ask for 8 hours of someones time to do your work for moeny, but then you have a problem with reality.
You would do better if you were to ask administrators to invent a way to block newspaper, so they don't appear in you list. That would solve all your problems and would not effect your "comfort".
But you alreaady new that, didn't you.
You certainly knew admins don't care to do what you say.
Rest of your post is off topic. Except that it points out how ignorant you are.
I would say that you are the ignorant one, as you put your comfort in search for articles as a basis for decency. That is surely ignorant and selfish. But I can see you only hear what you want to hear... if it's not what in tune with what you want to hear than it's off topic.
Have a nice day and please stay "tuned".
For dumb kids, here is what I wanted to say. If you had developed common sense, it would tell you the same.
You are off topic simply because you don't keep up with subject. With this utterly unrelated example with job, I mean. And, you're a bad spinner too. No, it's not my comfort that I point out. It was merely an example.
It is unfair because you spoil efforts of good writers, to whom votes and subs with MM medal eventually are REWARD for that effort. You take their reward away in a distressful manner.
Good articles were great entertainment once, better than wars. They were single reason for many people to play this game. Many excellent people, who have left the game after journalism was destroyed by voters' club.
Was it worth it? Can you repair that loss? Do you, at least, care?
Now THAT is selfish.
I'm right on point with the example. What did you write - "If you buy votes I can't find good articles anymore". But it's not that there are no good articles, it's just that you can't find them because payed articles in top 5 nowdays. So it's a matter of comfort. Using that as a basis for "decency" is plain dumb. You were off point, not me.
Second of all, you can still find good articles. Top 5 was never a measure of quality, it was just a way of promotion. There are articles that just had few lines or a funny picture and only because of that got into top 5. If your articles are good you will have subscriptions, in time. And people shout from time to time "great article, read it" and people will read it.
This situation with voters is just like in a real life, you pay for advertisement. This game is not utopia, never was. PTO is also a matter of decency but it's a valid option and it works. You have a problem with reality, not decency.
Cmon, this is a capitalic-alligned economy.
I dont know WTF awkward is an article, but if u can buy 1k votes; yeah say f*ck to high quality articles.
And ur "unwritten laws" theory sucks. How about scaming, lying, backstabbing huh? Its fairless too.
And if u need high quality article, stop crying, just scourge a page named "Latest news" or "Subscription news"
Voters clubs sucks!
..voted..
Unfortunately it's already proven this way of promoting articles is not illegal. Admins confirmed that.
nie lubię votersów
tldr;
too lazy: dumb reader...
PL?
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Soon. Sorry for this delay 🙂
most of those sites that sell votes and subs, sell votes subs and views for other sites like fb or yt, so i assume that might be a reason for fp. maybe that is external adv.
eRep admins could make engine with adv for newspaper. they could charge in cc or gold and have one more way for putting money out of game.
Few weeks without shitty articles in TOP of country was a good times... I was really happy about dissapearing of voters.
Now all this trash will return as well as political propaganda which normally will never been read.
You are right. There are many shity articles... but it's not that they don't exist, it's just that they are not at the front page... I rally don't see how this undermines the quality of the game.
Just imagine if admins were to make an option of a seperate tabs, so you can sort your favorite newspapers. Imagine if you can just "mute" dumb one and you wouldn't see them ever... you have to admit, journalism side of this game was not addressed for quite some time. I thisnk with certain improvements this issue of money voters would not be a problem.
If the economy was fixed a lot less people would even bother to vote or sub newspapers for money.
This is my point as well. If the economy sucks, people will do anything to earn money... this is what happens in RL as well, people invent new ways to earn money. This is why I think it should not be viewed as a "lack of decency" on part of those who are buyng votes. It's a matter of economics, not a matter of politeness or decency.
"medalu Magnata Medialnego" - HAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAAHAHA LOL
Tak się to nazywa w PL wersji eRepa. 🙂
"Welcome to Capitalism" my friend !! I also disagree on that subject, but there isn't "legal" or "illegal" as long as people around the globe "do it" and "accept it" like something natural ! Have you seen for instance, in real life, governments to put penalties on the rich guys ? Of course not ! Why should they ! After all, rich, are paying for the campaigns of politicians, who, the only the thing they want, is to get elected ! As a gift for givinig money, governments give them protection from not paying taxes (unacceptable in todays' societies, or those societies that accept that today, for me, they are just e-idiots).And I really can't understnad why americans are tolerant on that issue towards their rich people, and the last ones don't pay taxes at all you know ! For me, if they don't react, are e-stupido as a society; they accept that poor people must pay all the taxes, and they accept that rich people must pay 0% on taxes, and they also have great tolerance in their society to those who are making money very quickly, for instance banks etc.Cause if e-americans wanted to react, they would do it till now, and they would react all day and all night, till make rich people PAY taxes with 95% and not 0% ! You know, I had a respect on that country, but seeing their people how "clever" they are, and don't react to anything, I started appreciate other regions that don't have tolerance at all to rich people and treat equally all people of their country.
Money talks, bullshit walks.
that is how life goes 🙂
Vote, Sub, Shout
Hi,
I asked the erepublik support this theme when I programming the horuseye.
I received this answer: "we cannot punish people for registering at external pages."
They removed all articles which contained link to voters earmy, and said it was "external advertising". But when you take a look at the rules it clearly says:
The following actions are considered cases of advertising for external products:
- posting any links or mentions to other games;
- posting links or mentions to other websites that are not related to eRepublik;
- advertising other not related to eRepublik products, services, charities, religions, organizations, etc.
And this particular website is dedicated ONLY for eRepublik players. All of the transactions (payments for votes) are happening ONLY in eRepublik virtual money and all votes and subs are ONLY eRepublik related.
They simply don't care to look at the rules they wrote.
OH ironije li 😃
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