Putting things straight
Mickskitz
Hi all,
There has been a lot of talk from members within the ACP and the ARP regarding the ARP's involvement in helping the GGP usurp the ACP in the last senate elections. I write this article to explain what happened, and I should know as I organised it. I doubt this article will make me many friends, but I am not one to hide from criticism.
I know, shock horror, the ARP strings were pulled by the person who was actually party president at the time. I know that some of you struggle to believe that the ARP couldn't do something without Larni's direct involvement, but there you have it.
So this started when Mr Crumpets wrote a recruitment article for the GGP. There was a lot of talk in the ARP party room about how similar the GGP were to the ARP regarding supporting new players. I can't go into too much detail regarding what was discussed as the ARP forum is private. See Article for reference. There was a general party consensus that we liked the GGP. I was also conscious that the previous congress election they were under a PTO threat and had 2 players who would have normally been elected into congress did not because of this.
So After this, I messaged Mr Crumpets asking if he would like ARP's support in the congress elections. I can't see the message in my inbox so I can't quote exactly what was said, but essentially Mr C said that any help would be appreciated. I made it clear to him, that I couldn't guarantee anything and that we did not expect anything in return, it was simply doing a friend a favour.
Now "Mick Gatto" aka TJ seems to think (due to Vyrin's and some others comments) our position was just to make sure he did not get into congress. Now this is not true. I just saw it as an added incentive to help the GGP. TJ and the ARP have never seen eye-to-eye on most things, but this is not why I did what I did. However I was aware that the ACP not getting congress members would be a consequence if we were successful.
I ASKED active members of our party to change parties on what I believe was a day or two before the senate election. This included me sending either 2 or 3 direct messages to members requesting they move. Now the ARP had 13 members running for congress, which did not leave very many highly active members available for the move. There have been accusations that we sent up to 6 members across to the GGP for the election, which I deny. While I communicated to 2 or 3 (I don't have the record anymore) directly, I did talk about this in the party room so others MAY have gone, but I watched the numbers closely and recall approximately 24 hours before the election, before the people I contacted moved, that the GGP was 2 members down on the ACP. I believe it was 28 vs 30 (I could be mistaken). Just before the change of day, the GGP were 1 or 2 players ahead, and no new members had joined the ACP on that day.
Therefore the ACP lost out to the GGP.
This information was made partially public as one of the players who I asked to move posted a "not-so-private" message to players letting them know he had moved. There have been accusations regarding contact between this player and Callumh123 of the ACP, but this I know very little of. I only know my reasons for requesting players move, and frankly I doubt that any players from the ARP would have moved without my involvement.
I have no regrets regarding my actions, as I believe it was in the best interest of the ARP and GGP. I am sorry to any ACP players that missed out on election due to my actions, however it brings me back to party complacency. I have stated time and time again that parties seem to be too complacent with their positions as could be seen by the fact that the ACP did not post 1 recruitment article (at least not one in the top 5) leading up to this election, and even when it got very close to being overtaken, did not manage to organise anything to prevent the GGP taking 5th place. This does not make my actions right (although I feel justified in my actions), in the same way that the APP were screwed over the previous Party President elections with the PTO'er getting voted in after a few players from other parties were asked to switch and vote for him. This could have also been avoided with better party communication I firmly believe.
Comments
Two things I want to clarify in earnest - the first is I've let Larni off the hook during the debate on it. Honestly it was easy to fit her for the dark hat due to the circumstances but I'm happy to give credit where it's due.
Re. "Now "Mick Gatto" aka TJ seems to think our position was just to make sure he did not get into congress. Now this is not true."
Fair cop - you need to pull some of your members into line. As you know Vyrin has been running around taking all sorts of credit for that very reason. You know this to be true as you have no doubt seen it yourself.
So if we're embarking on a new spirit of facts before fiction - you need to lay off the ACP claiming we were responsible for the misinformation because we only called it based on what your own members said in the press without any clarifying statement from its leaders. If the leaders don't speak and their members do, what are people to go on?
Fair's fair in love and war - just saying this could have been cleared up a lot earlier. I'll take my smack on the hand for it but considering you were ARP President and leader of the party behind the effort - you deserve one for not coming out earlier and addressing it.
I'll update some of this. I honestly thought I had spoken to you and Tim about this a while ago (long before Vyrin came out).
Also I'm not PP anymore, and haven't been since Vyrin and others started commenting about this. First I saw of all this was on the ACP board and I commented as soon as I saw it.
Fair enough. What's needed to be said has been said and as far as I'm concerned I'm leaving it at that .. unless/until the next time my name gets dragged up in it LOL! You'll forgive my hesitance in believing this will be the last judging by the last week - but we can always hope!
I agree that I also doubt that this will be the last of it, but I have done what I can to put this all behind us.
You have to wonder though what else can come of it. What's done is done and it's been squared up - the trolls should leave it be they can't gain anything from negative campaigning. eAus has proven that.
I just don't have as much respect for Mickskitz as I used to have after we had a little chat over a different problem.
fair call Lany, this article was never going to help my image
Not sure why you think that Mickskitz it was bold and honest. Your difference of opinion leads one to wonder if some in the ARP were pleased with what was previously conveyed. The country will never know outside of those secluded halls.
The funny thing is I acted independently based on Callumh's comments. I didn't really choose to be part of an ARP/GGP alliance. My actions were designed because I didn't want TJ to be in the senate.
Confusion is that my actions were motivated differently than this thing, and all because of Callumh's reaction.
and now you know why Cal was never going to side with you on it. Should have asked around first kid.
High drama. Find out more tomorrow.
Drama? High Camp Melodrama is more like it
Its cute TJ thinks he had me on a hook. The evidence is clear TJ, you were running around making false claims about another citizen with no evidence to back it up.
Am I offended? Not really.
Put it this way the ARP forum is genuinely amused at the perception I control the party on a string. The truth is that I just sit there watching. Occasionally I say something but for the most part its important new players discover things for themselves, its the only way they will really learn to play the game and be individuals.
eAus has enough clones. Fresh blood is needed.
You were on the blame list based on your previous actions. At least I'm adult enough to admit I was wrong, even if all I was going on was incorrect information printed by current and former members of your own party.
my previous actions? Why sir I have no idea of which you speak. 😛
I love it when you're all sly n sht.
You still don't have this situation exactly right.
Who are you again?
Mick if you were less offensive, you would be liked more
This is what you'll never get. I don't care whether or not I'm 'liked'. The people I support in the game like me and that's enough. I'm not that egotistical where I have the chronic need to feel like I'm the coolest guy around.
But you go one step further and seem to make an active attempt to be disliked. There is one thing playing the game for the people you support, however you feel to be effective that you need to push everyone down to "support" the players you like.
The first sentence is subjective but no argument with the rest. Point? I play my game.
Mick I'm not going to be nice to pricks and idiots and I'm certainly not going to play happy campers with cnts I don't like. Fair enough if that isn't your thing but that's me.