Lackluster Collapsed Communes [LCC]
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Konrad Neumann
I was talking to MaryamQ the other night about the situation of eBE and inevitability we talked about the LCC. We both looked at the stats of the LCC and we are not impressed. When I won the Party President election last week, Wim and Lin0 engaged in a very heated discussion with me. They called me names and other stuff not ideal for the media but the most interesting part of the discussion was about their commune. The said that they will not give their commune to me and that they will never stop the LCC commune. They will "operate" business as usual and they will buy raws in the black market etc. Us "social fascist" will not have our bourgeoisie on their commune...
But what commune? Is it effective? If we look at the composition of the hardcore radical LCCers that are really vocal, they are in Military Units like Libertad and a Greek group called 7NISA. Wim is in Libertad while many others around 6 are in 7NISA. The only vocal person that is in a MU that is in eBE is Lin0ium who is in the LCC MU. Wim said however, he is moving to a different MU of a different country soon. I suspect this will be a Greek MU. The leaders of the LCC tends to not be in the LCC commune but Greek ones. Obviously the Greeks have more supplies and benefit than the small and non-functioning LCC communes.
If we look at the LCC Communes it states that there are only 14 members. 14 is not an accurate number since three of their members are eDead. Therefore the LCC Commune only operates with 11 members. These 11 members. If you look into each members, it is indeed really odd. A good amount of their members are eBorn on January 29th or 30th of this year. Ignoring the dates, I am more interested in the strength level of each member. I will not go into great details of exactly how old each members are but all members are at least or near the 1/2 year mark. Many are older than 1/2 a year. Looking at game rules training without gold is 5 strength each day and on the 5th day an additional 5 strength is rewarded to the player. Doing the math, their youngest members should have around 1050 strength. However this is not the case.
AlexanderFTW Strength 88
paok4444 Strength 125
Nocardia Strength 112
Aloys21 Strength 306
Leondeflandes Strength 617
45 Percent of their newest members are either inactive, or are extreme underachievers. More likely they are used for different reason which I think most people understand where I am going with this. Regardless of that, 45 percent of the commune is dead and obviously not working. Assuming that the LCC commune is still operational, it is only for 6 people. Their strongest members are the following.
schrach Strength 6702
lin0lium Strength 5394 (Soon moving to a foreign MU)
Supmylo Strength 3526
Tasilli Strength 2888 (Commune Commander}
Karakoran Strength 1645
Old Bull Lee Strength 905 (eBorn on March26 2012)
The LCC Communes is not dying but it is dead... long time ago
This shows that the LCC as a commune is not working. The members are not growing and their economic system is deeply flawed. In past articles where Wim and his cohorts claims that the commune is great and people get 17 Q6 tanks etc. Obviously this is not the case. At this rate, I am not convinced was there even an active and functioning commune in the first place. These facts shows that the commune is in such a disarray that even if they have the funds, there is no will and no members to make their commune functioning.
Asking an inside source, "For the 17 Q6 tanks, they can indeed provide that, although only 3 of their people are taking advantage, and one of them is Greek." Therefore, when they are shouting they are the people, the 99 percent of the people who feels cheated from their taxes etc, only 3 people are affected. One of them is a Greek PTOer. As to the rest, they are in Greek MU's working at companies abroad. LCC commune for the strong and robust 3...
However, if you look at the eBE system, if you are a citizen, you get citizen packs which consist of 20 Q6 food and 4 Q6 tanks. With regard to BNA, the workers in our commune system get 60 Q5 food per day worked, and the tanks depend on influence per Q6 hit - 14 per day less than 1500 influence, 17 per day up to 4000 influence, and 20 over 4000 influence, but those are only if they are using the tanks to fight. If you look at our newer members of our community, many people are growing. They are growing at a much faster rate especially compared to the growth rates of the LCC.
Instead of admitting defeat, Wim and his cohorts joins a different MU. They refuse to admit that the LCC is not a collective commune. Base on their member base, their commune is long since dead. There is no communistic paradise in the LCC, their dream is dead and now they want to destroy the dreams of others, mainly the eBE community. They are not the workers' paradise since there is no commune. The LCC are only angry Molotov Cocktail wielding miscreants shouting obscene comments. They do not have understanding of the text and philosophy that they try so desperately evoke. As my friend, Phoenix Quinn states,
" Broken by coercion, real human beings yield to inertia, passivity and resignation; their revolts are imbued with a despair which leads them to failure or, worse still, to 'succeed' by inverting altogether the empancipatory project that inspired them in the first place."
It is a tragic story. while their ideals (albeit a superficial interpretation) is understandable, their own anger and fury backfired on themselves. Instead of being the peoples' hero, they are the villains. They did not create a working commune system whereas the eBE community and state did. They did not win the hearts and minds of the people so they turn to a PTO base immigration policy. Despite their intentions in the beginning, good or bad, they are a bane to our society unless they reform their ways and stop the PTOing of eBE. There are many other socialist and communist parties around the eWorld and most of them do not PTO other countries. KPeD, PCP, SFP and many others do well in their countries. The legacy of the LCC is the toxication of the eLeft in eBelgium.
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let the kommie bashing begin \o
has nothing to do with kommie bashing, but with exposing hot air balloons for what they are, a bunch of stale air in a nice wrapper.
I am getting really tired of these pointless articles. Konrad could you please leave eBe in peace instead of doing everything to create another civil war?
Why did you come here? To start a hate campaign against some citizens? I really do not understand the purpose of your stay here. And am completely dazzled that some of our top players are following you in your rampage.
Please stop it! Focus on building a community (like your party name suggests) instead of attacking others..
@Vegan, did you even read the article? It seems you are the one that is attacking people. I point to evidence in my argumentation. You do not like the contents, fine but have some evidence to defend your views instead of attacking me pointlessly. I am building the community where as the LCC PTO seeks to destroy it. My action is base on community, preventing state PTO etc. I think my actions are clear and have most of eBe support.
I read your pointless article. And do not see why you would waste time in writing it. It seems you only wish to aggravate some of our citizens. And by this create an unpleasant ambiance just at a time when this was sorted out and peace had returned.
So no I do not see how your pointless and time wasting articles are based on community building.
All I see is that you wish to continue the hate that eBe finally left behind.
Let the First Belgium Nuclear Civil War begin \o
I sense you are tense but I am not angry or hateful. Where as Wim critique and bash the eBE system, I offer a honest and humble critique of the LCC Commune. I have evidence and first person evidence and testimony. I showed that the LCC method is far from ideal and that the eBE way is much better. There is no unpleasant ambiance and if you really feel that way, you do not have to read this article or future articles at all. I am just offering an honest assessment of LCC policy.
Waste your time with constructive things instead of starting fights. eBe has had enough fighting!
I think we all want peace but I am not your enemy etc. I am fighting for the eBE community to block PTO's as well as baseless attacks on the government and society. I think my deeds are constructive since I have support from all parties especially HOPE and Om. We can continue to work together to end the PTO threat and the slandering of eBE norms.
Voted! Real proof of why eCommunism is as successful as real communism, not at all . When wages are fixed the worker will slack.....
konrad is fighting pto with another pto, while he tries to look like not doing pto. some nice hypocrisy and shallow nationalism again. add more drama plx.
if the tax refund were fair enough, players could get more than current programs offer.
any commune would work better installed in a country like china than in a country like belgium. many have moved the workplaces, and i don't know why lcc haven't done so already.
Gibberish45: "Voted! Real proof of why eCommunism is as successful as real communism, not at all . When wages are fixed the worker will slack....."
Not completely true, when wages are fixed and people have everything they wan't/need they won't slack if they do the work they love/like. Problem with that is that humans are inherently an easely corruptable and greedy species, so the ones giving the wages will usually end up being dictators.
You joined LCC and you renamed it to eBE isnt that a PTO? You can have your own party and you can recruit whoever you want! but joning a party and renaming it is a PTO! what you dont understand are you 10 years old? who destroys others dream? we that we have our party or you who joins and renames the party? and Yeah Im in a greek MU they are really nice guys they have helped through the game... I know how to appreciate other's help ... and I respect them... you dont respect other's people ideas!
You just joined LCC and you renamed it! Ive come here to help this party because I support it! if you can show some respect to this how you expect us to respect you with your acts?
Actually during the war Konrad was constantly attacking (verbal and in warfare) eBe. Since then I have only seen Konrad attacking eBe citizens and commenting on eBe newspapers while he was eNl and always had bad things to say about eBe.
Actually I completely do not understand why this person got eBe citizenship. Who let him in and why? So he could PTO an eBe party? That doesn't sound like a good reason to give someone the eBe CS.
We should ask ourselves the question where this is different
with the past actions of the LCC?? That they promised not to do anymore..
Rest was just restored in eBe and a foreigner comes to our country to start the inland fighting again.
Why???
WTF!! ROFL....
This is the most funny shit ever....
Konrad?
Get a life and stop dreaming...
People you can still ask for a job and work for 17 q6 tanks... soon we will have a new type of companie. You can become co owner and work for 20 Q6 tanks a day and own 9.1% or more of the companie.
It is funny that people who disagree does not talk about numbers and the actual contents of the article. We have the same radicals shouting about things irreverent to the topics. I take your inability to defend your position since this article is 100 percent true.
tl;dr version
LCC sucks
Is that funny Konrad... you are the joke. Every LCC worker can see that.
Why should we talk with numbers since most of all we see your ACTS?
Gic,
Pretty much everyone in the government supported the PTO of the LCC to stop them from causing damage. Not sure if you were around when they proposed dropping all tax revenue to the state and were letting in cheaters and multis to vote, but it happened and any sane country would attempt to block bad guys like the LCC from getting into a position of power.
When will the LCC stop playing the victim card. If anyone is to use the victim card, it is us real citizens of eBE who are being PTOed for months now...
@Gic, you do not talk about the numbers since you cannot talk about them and still maintain your argument that the LCC is not a commune or a worker's paradise etc. It is only a PTOing force bent to kill of the real citizens of eBE...
Konrad you are not a real eBe citizen. It isn't because you could convince the gov to give you CS (still would like to hear the details on that..) and succesfully PTOed an eBe party that all at once you are a wonderful and all time citizen. Cause the simple reality is that a few months all you could do is talk bad about eBe..
Dear Mr Vegan
I have support of Maryam, Cotarius, Nohjis, Critically, Gibberish, Mudduck, Mittekemuis, NLSP (at times), Pieter (at times), Requiem, and many more that supported and welcomed my CS. You can continue to trash talk Vegan but I was the one that wrote eBE and eNL are like Bro and Sis etc. Enjoy distorting reality if you must. Why not talk about the issues of this articles like LCC as a failed commune or you cannot since you cannot defend your position so you trash talk...
A Vegan he was approved by the majority of the congres in fact all of us wanted him. If you don't like it well then prove you are better this term. But If the lcc members let in one more not discussed cs will you beare the consequences of that?
Dear Mr Neumann,
When I read most of your articles and specially comments I see trash talk. Could you explain where I am doing this in the comments I made on this article? It seems you like to point fingers. It seems you truly feel better than us "regular" citizens. At least that is what I feel when I read a lot of your over lengthy articles and bashing comments..
They're all coming to HOPE anyway