I Quit 2.0
Donovan Thomas
So....
Let's talk about respect and how much Dub has for his Military.
None.
Why? Well, yeah, I resigned MoD. I left him with a hole in his cabinet because I could not stand by while he himself broke all the wonderful laws he made. But that was kind of blowing over after one single person decided to let him stay president (Kind of like only two votes got him into office)
But that's all water under the bridge, Dub's immune for another week right? So who does he make the MoD?
John Jay. Yes, John Jay who tried to trick eIrish Soldiers to ignore orders and fight red in the resistance war. John Jay who now says.
"I do not have to support any one person or group in this country if I do not wish to. The Dail in this country is not the end all be all, and I refuse to think that it is. "
He also says
"I'm here to serve, just like you."
When did he say this and where? Yesterday. In the barracks.
Hmmmm... Not sure how those two jibe. There are plenty of other wonderful and contradictory quotes by your new Minister of Defence and CO of Na Fianna.
But don't take my word for it. You can read all his wonderful contradictory blather here:
http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=26474&#post26474
I'll let you in a little secret here. Before the election I let Dub know that a rumor was on the street that he was going to choose JJ as his MoD. Well, I let him know that I would resign my commission in Na Fiann and the IDF is he allowed a traitor (and yes, I call asking people to fight against your army when you are a citizen of a country being a traitor) and that I thought a few others might not be too happy either. Dub realized that would be a bad idea and asked me if I would serve as a co-MoD.
I'll not speak for anyone else, but I'm not the only one who feels as such. They'll have to speak their own peace.
So there it is. I resign my commission in Na Fianna and the IDF.
I should feel regret right now. I should be sad. But I am not.
I will not take orders from a traitor.
-Dripping with a lack of respect for our current president and his decisions,
Field Marshal Donovan Thomas
eIrish Free Agent
Time to hoist the Jolly roger
Comments
Why was John Jay approved for the position?
Hmmmm...
Fair enough if that's what you want to do.
Didn't you start a RW in NI against Ireland? Just saying.
Iain, no, I started a RW in NI, Norway.
Arrg matey. John Jay as MoD is a mistake.
Join the ICA instead 🙂
Why is Nith not CO of Na Fianna? did he not take care of NF for ages?
>Time to hoist the Jolly roger
hooray we're pirates now
Nith resigned
"I do not have to support any one person or group in this country if I do not wish to. The Dail in this country is not the end all be all, and I refuse to think that it is. "
You forgot the line right before it:
I'm not going to support a decision at all if it was reached through deception.
I had no ties with the IDF for 6 weeks before this. Traitor I am not. But this:
"I'll let you in a little secret here. Before the election I let Dub know that a rumor was on the street that he was going to choose JJ as his MoD. Well, I let him know that I would resign my commission in Na Fiann and the IDF is he allowed a traitor (and yes, I call asking people to fight against your army when you are a citizen of a country being a traitor) and that I thought a few others might not be too happy either. Dub realized that would be a bad idea and asked me if I would serve as a co-MoD."
This seems to me like someone was planning a coup if he doesn't get his way. Sigh.
Anyway, in order for me to be a traitor to anything, I would have to fight red right? Show me where I did.
Dripping with lack of compassion for a person that doesn't get what he wants and runs home with his ball,
~JJ
Word is Dubhthaigh's next MoF is Padraig_Pearce...
😉
Welp
i support you DT,
Iain, it was Norway, not Ireland at the time
Shamrock
lol, i read PP is to be the next President oj
Spin it anyway you want JJ. You wanted eIreland to fail. I don't plan, initiate your carry out coups. And I don't try to trick soldiers to fight AGAINST my country. That's your bag.
Donovan, I couldn't agree more.
LOL
Funny you mention spin, the only person that spins his way through media here is you.
The way I hear it DT, you didn't "mention" anything to Dubthaigh, you told him that you along with a few others would leave the IDF if he made his choice. Seems to me like that's a very political threat coming from a TD and a CC, don't you think? TBH, and let's lay it on the table, shall we? You bullied your way into an MoD position with your clout. You knew exactly what would happen once you said you would leave and take NF with you. So now you throw a hissy fit when things don't go your way.
You assume people don't talk to me DT. You have underestimated me from day one. That's your bag.
~JJ
JJ, why are you and Dub so misunderstood? Why cant we all see your brilliance for what it is?
Why of why do we constantly underestimate you!!!???
Meh.
haha typical troll is typical....
Wake me up when you want to put facts on the table.
DT, I think the proper historical personage you are looking for is Benedict Arnold.
Kol, very true, though in my mind I was thinking Fletcher Christian vs. Captain Bligh... 😉
Donovan: we've had our ups and downs. But i respect u. u are right John jay dose'nt deserve to be trusted For the reason you have mentioned and for robbing signapore
Good Luck o7
🙁
I cant believe dubh is still president , Im with you DT , my resignation is being handed in now
Donovan, we'd love to have you in Fiannóglach. It is a small team, but we hope to grow.
Donovan, I couldn't agree more.
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DT didn't "bully" his way into the MoD spot. On the contrary, he told me before the elections that Dubh had offered him a co-MoD spot and he planned on declining. For my part, I encouraged him to accept it, as he's a very qualified person for the job and has proven himself so. I don't claim to say that's end-all evidence, but it seems to indicate a non-"bully" mentality regarding the MoD position.
Like all issues like this, however, I see nothing changing. One side has their "truth", and the other theirs.
"haha typical troll is typical...."
John Jay, this is his article. You are trolling him. Stupid troll is stupid.
A walk out and a coup d'etat are two totally different things. If you don't know the difference, you shouldn't be leading our military.
I'm definitely considering resignation myself...
Resigned from IDF just now. I'm with ya Bro!
Rebellion? Independence? Sounds like my kind of party. 😉
I am resigning as CO of the Ulster Rangers until JJ is removed from the IDF entirely.
oh dear, now things are finally heaten up....maybe we can make a barbeque out of this 😃
Jeezus.
What a mess.
Time for a shake-up lads.
o7
Now it's MY turn to get the popcorn.
Wow! Edana's presidency seems boring compared to this
Grainne, pass the popcorn and the peanut butter filled pretzel nuggets.
"Anyway, in order for me to be a traitor to anything, I would have to fight red right? Show me where I did."
Whether you actually fought red or not we all saw your "Fight Red" shouts. When I went to the forums yesterday and saw you were co-MoD and CO of Na Fianna I posted my resignation in the leave of absence thread. I'll always fight for eIreland but I'll never serve under you.
@Yddub x2 I'm falling in love with you all over again. That was beautiful! *sniff*
@Citizen I know! Geez the next time I'm CP, I'm going to have to do a better job at pissing people off. lol It's my inate charm. I can't seem to turn it off. 😉
"peanut butter filled pretzel nuggets""???
Wow, I suddenly cheered up.
Remembering why I love American snacks again 🙂
But not enough to distract me, tbh.
I've always been purely a battle-bitch, and an Irish one, at that.
This just makes me cry like a wain.
sob sob sob
(wain, ulster/borders colloquial term for small child, derived from wee wan, or a small person 🙂 )
Hey don't bring Benedict Arnold into this. He made a big mistake but there were extenuating circumstances behind his action. I have read extensively on Arnold and feel some sympathty for him. Has anyone noticed my Avatar? He was the most capable military officer on either side in the American Revolution, a fact recognized by both sides. He was by far not the worst traitor to ever come from the US and one of the worst was one of the people who pushed him toward the British. In fact he was a traitor when he fought for the Americans and reverted to the legal government when he went back to the British. Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. 😃
I've been a wain, in my time, but now is really not the time for anyone to whine.
@Grainne: Yeah, they are delicious, and if you aren't careful, you can inhale down a barrelful and not even feel guilty. lol
Yoho Yoho a pirate's life for me
Oh hai! Did I miss anything?
In this article: Americans
In this article: Common Sense.
I know, what used to be an American trait... 😉
More drama 🙁
:facepalm:
Recently I have refrained from posting replies to these kinds of articles, but I think this issue has gone on long enough without being answered.
1.JJ is a brilliant MoD with wholehearted dedication to the welfare of the IDF and the just eIrish state.
2. JJ is in frequent contact with me, and is working hard to improve IDF structure. He actually does his job.
3. JJ will not resign (without contacting me) because he sees the amount of stick I am taking in the media, and will not try to portray his resignation as some kind of heroic gesture.
4. JJ will not abandon the IDF because he is afraid of the political 'hit' he will take for being my MoD.
5. JJ will not threaten me with a military Coup if I make certain political decisions.
6. JJ is honest, straighforward, and not a political manipulator
I, for one, see this is a move that serves the IDF with a much more loyal and dedicated MoD.
The people can make their decision on whether they think he is right for the job or not, and I value that, but I know noone more dedicated and resilient than JJ.
Frankly I am disgusted by the line you have taken since you quit Donovan. In your job you made barely any effort to contact me, even though I HAD assigned you tasks. You did not turn up for the meetings. You didnt even express any concerns about these 'reasons' you had for resigning.
*rant over.*
Recently I have refrained from posting replies to these kinds of articles, but I think this issue has gone on long enough without being answered.
1.JJ is a brilliant MoD with wholehearted dedication to the welfare of the IDF and the just eIrish state.
2. JJ is in frequent contact with me, and is working hard to improve IDF structure. He actually does his job.
3. JJ will not resign (without contacting me) because he sees the amount of stick I am taking in the media, and will not try to portray his resignation as some kind of heroic gesture.
4. JJ will not abandon the IDF because he is afraid of the political 'hit' he will take for being my MoD.
5. JJ will not threaten me with a military Coup if I make certain political decisions.
6. JJ is honest, straighforward, and not a political manipulator
I, for one, see this is a move that serves the IDF with a much more loyal and dedicated MoD.
The people can make their decision on whether they think he is right for the job or not, and I value that, but I know noone more dedicated and resilient than JJ.
Frankly I am disgusted by the line you have taken since you quit Donovan. In your job you made barely any effort to contact me, even though I HAD assigned you tasks. You did not turn up for the meetings. You didnt even express any concerns about these 'reasons' you had for resigning.
*rant over.*
Where ever you're hiding the drugs must be good cuz they have you fooled eh?
Worst...President....Ever....
Wannabe Dictator with a traitor for a MoD. At least now Starks will get some peace.
Starks R.I.P.
Bad, but nothing compared to this farce.
lol, an ironic one.