Derpy On Canada
Derphoof
Dearest Brothers,
We once again find ourselves at war with our oldest enemy, Canada.
Canada had recently chosen to MPP Serbia, making it an enemy of the United States. However, it was not even the USA that pushed them in this direction by “not helping.” Their inept foreign policy and military decision-making led us to the decisions being made.
Canada often finds itself at war every month or so because “muh boredom.” Time after time, in elections, you’ll see people ask variations of “will we be going to war?” Along the same lines, candidates are attacked for NOT wanting to go to war. They are told that they won’t be voted for because not going to war is simply boring. The biggest example of this happened last month when Canada attacked the United Kingdom.
The people of Canada had been clamoring for war. Rogue proposals had been thrown at the UK several times. One was even thrown at Spain. Finally the Canadian Gov capitulated and NE’d the UK.
However, it was technically a rogue proposal.
This was not debated in Congress prior to its proposition. There was no planning beforehand. They did not consider how it could affect their foreign relations. They simply used it to placate the populace.
Let’s get some evidence from the inside (courtesy of DerpyLeaks).
In this first image, you’ll see the confusion in Congress from the outset of the NE. Since it was not discussed and was assumed to be a rogue NE, (since Chance Harrison was not in the Administration) “Lance Lucky” asked how they should vote. Rolo prods him and others to vote yes, while calling the CP “boring” likely because he had not thrust Canada into war up to that point.
In this image, you’ll see IBB simply tell them to “Vote Yes” on the matter. No info is given about why.
In this next image, Chochi asks why he should vote Yes, since he has been given no info as to why he should. Although he admits that, given how Canada had been clamoring for war, Congress probably needed no reason other than executive permission.
Yet, in the next screenshot, the answer he got was that no planning had been going on prior to the NE proposal. Instead he said he had been “gathering as much support as I can since the NE was proposed.” Not beforehand, but AFTER the fact. He simply saw it and ran with it.
While the USA had been trying to make relations better with Spoland and the UK, Canada has made no such attempt recently. They continued to antagonize Spoland and the UK. They declared war knowing that Spoland would retaliate, protecting their ally and leading to a wipe. They did it KNOWING that we could not help because of our NAP with the UK This is only several months after enduring an 8 month wipe at the hands of Spain for, like now, attacking the UK. In their desire for entertainment, they turned a neutral Spoland and UK against them by attacking the UK. Even Iain Keers stated in a recent article that Spoland and the UK were completely fine with Canada. The USA only became annoyed when Canada MPP’d Serbia, making them an automatic enemy. As Iain said, this war coupled with the MPP trashed their foreign policy in the region. They could have talked their way out of it and come to a peaceful settlement, but they instead MPP’d Serbia as soon as they could. He even stated that they could still turn around, but there has been no sign of such a course.
Yet, after trashing their foreign policy, many in Canada try to blame things on the USA. They call us backstabbers and traitors without once looking at their own actions.
They’ve engaged in reckless military and foreign policy behavior. They’ve MPP’d our worst enemies.
They have brought this war upon themselves.
Canada, our oldest enemy and once our closest friend, has become our enemy once more.
To Canada, I only have one more thing to say:
Comments
First for Pony and Glorious AMERICA.
lolololol derpy ❤!
And great truth was delivered unto them.
"Me" only became annoyed when Canada MPP’d Serbia
Canada you broke my heart...
Derpy, I still love you :3 I have an Emerick reference to post here late, check back 😛
Actually you can read my article late, for some of the facts here as well!
Later* damn phone 😉
I just assume it's this one
That's a good one yes, but I was talking about the one where he wanted to invade Canada way back when.
Serbia.. still makes me shake my head.
Meow! ♥
They paid both sides.
Now I wonder why they would do such a thing.
Outch!!!
The Brolliance is dead
Long live the Brolliance
Whats the f***ing difference between USA MPPing Spain who did everything for 8 months to deny us all regions. Not even one region to have a Congress to change taxes, accept new CS's etc. They went well out of their way to shit on us. USA MPP's our enemy.
Canada MPPs an enemy of the USA.
Not F***ing rocket appliances here boys!
You may want to have a chat with your Foreign Affairs department.
Apparently they think Spain isn't half bad.
Stockholm Syndrome. After 8 months you learn to respect each other.
Spain has been the only one to actually give us the time of day, I know that. We both chose different paths, but the blame game looks like gay a$$ roleplay drawn out for really pointless matters. American and Canadian governments have not been friends for awhile, so why do people act so surprised?
Its funny because DMV3 spent a sh*t ton of time, RL money, and effort to help Canada out, as did many other Americans. But that was before he was essentially run out of Canada by a concerted trolling effort exerted by the same few people that WildOwl names in his article. What an effing surprise. I've had an erep account since 09, I may not have been the most active of players but I've observed more than my fair share of erep politics and I can honestly say that I have never been more disgusted than when I watched the eCan community during that time.
I was close to DMV for sometime in Canada, he was tremendous in helping out Canada during our wipe, and after too. Though as I recall in all his MU efforts, at every step the US government did not want to help us, so he had to pull strings for private US MU's to help up, which they did. I am very thankful for that, and all his and others hard work.
As for the trolling effort, much of the Canadian public did not see his work during the wipe, so an American coming in, and dropping a shit tonne of gold to try and win a CP election, could be seen as a bad thing. Would the US openly support a Canadian spending a bunch of gold to win a CP election. Now answer honestly...
If any eCandians were actually thankful of his effort then they sure had an interesting way of showing it. As you may or may not be aware we have had numerous CP's from the UK despite the fact that at times the UK has been our most hated enemy. Yet when the person who is most responsible for galvanizing American support for Canada has the gall to run for CP there he has to endure lies, faked screenshots, baseless accusations of being a PTOer, and trolling.
The fact that the average Canadian was unaware of his work is a prime example of exactly why the notion that the US had any obligation to eCan is ludicrous. Our elites don't like each other, and our average citizens don't talk each other. We have been trying to join SPoland for over a year while eCan has been antagonizing them, yet you act surprised when we aren't particularly keen to bring you along out of loyalty to something that doesn't exist anymore.
I was his VP for one of his CP runs, so right off the bat your assumption that no Canadian was thankful makes your arguments look weak. Fake screenshots eh? There were fakes of me too, it happens to everyone.
I'm sure YOUR appreciation was legitimate, however I have some serious doubts about most of your compatriots.
Had Canada been normal and sensible they could've done shit like, I dunno, invade fucking China together with the US.
Don't see your point Derpy. We already knew we were crazy. Spain was going to wipe us without your help. What is the point of the USA piling on?
First we come to the USA for help and you tell us you don't want anything to do with us. Then another super power comes and offers to pay both sides of an MPP to help us.
So we MPP this super power and you NE us for doing it.
Well we came to you first for help and we where told to get lost! You made our choice for us.
If I recall correctly the US said before you attacked UK that you guys shouldn't be counting on backup (yet again) and your gov still went on until the 'oh shit UK started paying attention'.
What has Canada done for the USA tbh?
We never expected back up on the battle field. Just in words and deeds to get us back on the map behind the scenes.
We joined CoT at your invitation and were more then willing to NE Poland and join you in being wiped. We are crazy like that.
"First we come to the USA for help and you tell us you don't want anything to do with us. Then another super power comes and offers to pay both sides of an MPP to help us."
I keep hearing this.. yet clearly it was stated in y'alls congress that we could not help. Y'all knew the help wasn't coming. Yet you plunged on in.. Knowing that it wouldn't be just the eUk. Knowing that they would have help. Y'all expected to have help. Why wouldn't they? Yet... you seem to think it's the eUS's job to save you. It is not. It never was. It was y'alls responsibility to think logically and realize that your actions had consequences. Not to go.. oh hum.. bored.. YEA ATTACK EUK! SOMEBODY WILL HELP US!!!!! foolish. inconsiderate. thoughtless. weak. Deal with your choices on your own. Just. As. You. Made. Them. Stop relying on everyone else and crying when you realize that they moved on tired of your antics.
FTR I have MANY friends in Canada and I hate that it's come to this, but it HAS come to this.
You could of at least pretended to want to help. This will result in a wipe which we were going to have with or without you piling on. That is the part that makes no sense.
we asked if the help was an option... we didnt want help invading the eUK, and when we knew we werent getting any after the inevitable wipe.. we kept going, why? because we are crazy and the game model has changed so that occupied regions become harder to keep occupied.. we were and are ready for that, and we will enjoy every single RW on our way back to the map... i dont know what all this fuss is about... its a war game... countries go to war, lets have some fun at it?
but the fact we chose the to side with the alliance on the other side of our "enemies" seems a bit weird to me.. oh well more fun for eCanada
@Umbra - that's not how the convo I had with IBB went..... He was well aware that there would be no help from us. There could be no help without asking us to go back on our word in our NAP's.
Just wanted to reply to Mazzy's original comment, as a RL American I am ashamed of our ego. As a member of eCanada's congress I can tell you that we didn't want or expect your help. When we reverence America telling us to get lost, that was the response your CP gave us when we asked about joining you and SPoland in an alliance. We don't expect you to help us out of every (or any) wipe, and speaking for myself, I don't expect the eUS to even "pretend" for us.
The board is shifting, and I'm currently content in fighting against my RL country as soon as your NE passes. We're going to be in different alliances, that's that. I'll see you guys on good terms hopefully in a year or so.
PS: Derp, out of intellectual interest, I want to say that the argument about us not being willing to work with Spain can be countered by the fact of the eUS NE against us simply because we MPP'd Serbia (for lack of a better reason). Spain AND Poland are currently attempting a conquest, Serbia got kicked out of the eUS a while ago (in internet time at least). Our wounds are fresher. Nothing personal, just something that got my attention.
I hope you realize that sitting here going.. but.. but.. you could have just faked it for us.... is the exact kind of logic I'm talking about. -.-
It's called diplomacy. Will see how this works out for the both of us then. I'm sure the USA will score a lot of prestige points with allies for this.
lol if you want to talk about diplomacy. faking that eUSA would help eCanada would be a wrong move for the eUSA, canada already knew the eUSA had a NAP with the eUK, ecanada knew that by MPPing with Serbia it would enrage USA. i dont see any fault on the eUSA. Canada's anger about possibly facing another wipe is making canada peps more irrational then they were before. so again if you want to talk about diplomacy you should look at canada's diplomacy first.
I'd say any eCanadian who was around for the past 6 months wouldn't expect eUSA* to help us. Our relations have been too crummy to expect anything. Even without signing the MPP with Serbia, I found it more likely for eUSA to set us as a NE than to send us a MPP. Indeed, years ago, I would never have expected it to turn out this way.
*referring to eUSA as a whole, i.e. Executives/administration; a few independent American fighters would help us out from time to time.
See... maybe that's why we can't get along. The US doesn't base diplomacy off lies and deceit. *shrugs*
You do remember the whole CTRL fiasco. *laughs as she shrugs*
Not really.. I was still a fairly quiet player at that point. Didn't pay attention to the international stage. I can only vouch for what I have personally experienced. And that's what I do. *shrugs again*
The fact is that you guys are the traitors. Why do you expect us to join you and sign alliances with our occupiers? You simply cannot fathom you might be wrong on this. I regret that I ever supported you here in eCanada, you have become completely entrenched up the arse of the eUS elites.
You made them your occupiers. They didn't wake up one morning and say, "Oh gee, I know what we can add to our vast empire! Canada!"
You attacked the UK and they reasonably retaliated to help them. Your choices resulted in them becoming your occupiers. Had you not done that, you could've easily been with Spoland/UK/USA/Croatia.
You would not be "signing alliances with your occupiers" because you would have no occupiers.
At this junction I prefer we are not aligned. USA, SPoland, U are, all countries with no honor in this game. 3 of those 4 were already without it, and now you've joined their ranks. Hurray?
I keep seeing Canadians blaming the elites, allow me to assure you that aside from whats left of the eus mil crowd the vast majority of the eUS doesn't give two sh*ts about what happens to eCan. There was a concerted effort by a significant number of Americans to help Canada when they were wiped by Spain, I can remember fighting and shouting for you along with many others. But of course when I dared comment in eCan media I was promptly told to go f**k myself. You are playing in a world that hasn't existed for 2 years, get over it.
I'm not blaming all eUS citizens...clearly I am blaming the elites. I thank every patriot who has fought for eCanada and who will be joining us in fighting against the eUS government yet again.
Well the old US military crowd is all we really care about as well.
My god someone get this man a soapbox.
Got one for you: http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/soap-box-193358/1
RIP
It would belong to an eCan 😉
oh look my rogue proposal is famous! HAIL PATHARPER \o/
lololol silly 'murica