An Open Letter To Chris Stanwick
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by Donovan Thomas
Mr. Stanwick,
"I seriously doubt that one former American can do so alone. I do not condone hostile PTOs..." (Chris Stanwick)
I agree with your first statement, but not your implication that you are "One former American alone". You currently hold the largest subscribed to newspaper in Ireland based on your former audience, an audience for whom you have been attempting to "grease the skids" of immigration. And also an audience that is very vocal in its distrust and venomous dislike of you.
The second portion of the above quote is more disturbing. Are you implying that you do support "Non-hostile PTO's?"?
If you sincerely want to earn the trust of the eIrish people you would have first established an exploratory committee (rea😛
Poll in the forum) and requested the participation of Natural Born or Pre-Diaspora eIrish in determining the want of your help.
What bothers me the most is your manifesto. The words dedicated, committed, care, loyalty etc do not appear. You state you are running because you are bored and spend 12 hours a day in front of the computer and need to keep busy.
More Quotes:
"The region I run doesn't matter" (Chris Stanwick)
Run? Oh! You miss "running things" do you? "Run" a region sir? Or do you SERVE at the request of your constituents?
This is our home Mr. Stanwick. Though this is a game we love our country. Had you actually researched your new adopted home well enough you would have learned of the fierce dedication to this Fair Isle. We have seen our fair share of would be coups and foreign power mongers land on the Isle. If you had done your research you would find that they all went the way of the serpent.
"Please Help ease my boredom." (Chris Stanwick)
No.
Though I have been very critical of President Aran Tal as of late I believe he is a dedicated eIrishman who has the best interests of this country at heart. I do not believe the same about you sir. You are a bored politician with no toy soldiers to play with.
Stand down. Spend some time here if you must, it is a free country after all and one who does embrace immigrants. But earn our trust, contain your boredom and lust for power. If you run do it when we ask you to, not until then.
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Well, got my attention
To be honest now it seems like we're allowing the eRepublik equivalent of Rupert Murdoch the keys to Dublin.
mmmmmm
hhhmmm too
He was given citizenship by the Dail. Everyone who is given access is checked out.
Also to answer your question I believe that Mr. Stanwick would consider all PTO's hostile. As far as I know the only Americans doing a PTO are in South Africa and Chris Stanwick is here by himself. His newspaper has a lot of subscribers because he was a high ranking official in the US government before he was kicked out. He knows alot about running a country and I think we can all benifit from his presence
I chatted with him last night and he was a very amiable sort.
I'm not sure I fully agree with you here. I have my reservations but I don't think Chris is a snake in the grass. I could be wrong and there is a WELL organized PTO working, but from what I have seen from the Americans there is nothing well organized. They like to canabalize their own for their personal gain and most groups, whether for good or bad, fall from being bled out.
"He was given citizenship by the Dail. Everyone who is given access is checked out. "
His application was not processed. Pip Kelly approved it without consent.
There is a colorful American term for this kind of arrogance:
Carpet-bagger.
Please see Mr. Stanwick's rather haughty response and my retort.
http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1116post1116" target="_blank">http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.a[..]1116
@Patton,
Understood, and nearly agreed. However, I believe that his presence in eIreland and his presence in the Dáil are two quite different things.
Carpet baggers were salesman that went to the southern states from the northern states selling things, late 1800's I think. They had these big suitcases with carpeted sides, hence their name. The were not exactly arrogant, but they did think they could put one over on ususpecting uneducated southerners by selling them cheap products at high prices. Slick salesman types they were.
I didn't realize that this was also a newspaper article, but I did respond to it on the forums earlier today. The quotes that Donovan uses are manufactured, he took what I said in my article and deleted certain words to make me look like a monster. I am here alone, not as a part of a PTO group, as I do not condone any PTO - they are all hostile. I take offense to this article and to the attack against my character, which is completely unwarranted.
Please see my response in said forum as stated above Mr. Stanwick.
Again, that you feel you look like a monster and that you are offended are the rights of any eIrish citizen, I’m sorry you chose to take offense, but some are thin skinned eh?
I cannot take credit for attacking your character sir; you have done the damage to yourself via deed and word.
This is posted here as well as the forum in the hopes that it reaches the entirety of the eIrish people and not the 10% or so that visit the forum.
Or the 1% that read your newspaper.
Oh! Touché sir, a true touch of class. You have wounded me and I lay before thee at thy mercy,
What I fool I was to attempt to battle the Great American Stanwick!
Mercy sir! Mercy!!!
(And actually your math is off... it's more like 1.2%, but who is counting?)
Well, Mr. Hampton, (May I call you Hamp?) you are quite the student of U.S. History, aren't you? Someone really paid attention in high school. However, your definition is somewhat literal, as the carpet-bagger is what many post civil war south politicians were likened to (in spirit) during the U.S. reconstuction period, which occurred during the latter part of the 19th century, as you referrence. Folks from the northern states arrived down south after the war and tried to ease in and run things, on the sly, thus "putting one over" on the poor, unsuspecting and ignorant.
Johnny, tell the man what he's won!
BTW, in case you didn't catch it: the arrogance lie in the assumption that those that they preyed upon were unsuspecting and ignorant.
@ Clorox2,
Well said. Might one even consider such an "on the sly" maneuver a sort of "Non-Hostile PTO?" *wink*
Non-hostile PTOs are a good thing. A non hostile one is when a group of people move to a country and set up shop to help it rather then loot and destroy it.
Also, Donovan, your a level 12 who is fairly new and inexperienced to Ireland. You are no authority on Irish affairs or about how we feel on immigration. You seem to be another one of the people who walk around Ireland like the prince of the castle after being here for only a few weeks and not actually contributing in any way other then complaining and harassing refuges.
And tbh, I think you should give the man the benefit of the doubt in that the "run" thing was a misspelling. Hell, you should just generally give him the benefit of the doubt about everything. Ireland is a warm and welcoming nation for refuges and immigrants in real life, I'd love to see that extend to eRepublik, but sadly, after viewing this thread I realise it doesn't.
My Two Cents.
*returns Manni's two cents* I would not want to overcharge.
Thanks Manni, your help is always appreciated.
@Donovan,
I think that there are those who might have such considerations, yes. *taking a drag from pipe, feet on desktop*
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"Ireland is a warm and welcoming nation for refuges and immigrants in real life"
Eh, manni? are we living in the same ireland?
*refunds Manni's 2 cents*
we use IEP here, maybe the money exchange for you, expat?
Mannimarco, your attitude will surely bring lots of new active players to our great country! Those pitiful low level players, such as myself, should just shut up and do as were told in regards to what has become OUR country as well. All hail the Oligarchy ha.
Grainne, you so hard try to ignore me and blank me out, yet you can't resist my presence so much you have to retort every single one of my comments. Grainne, your crusade against me has warmed my heart deeply for some time.
I have never claimed to represent Ireland, yet you, like our aforementioned friend seem to thing you own Ireland. No one owns Ireland, we all own it together as a community, so please try to reattach your ego to yourself, it's been running amok for too long.
Octavius, I would prefer if newbies shut up, since the fact that they are newbies renders them ignorant of game mechanics and eIrish history. So it's generally less annoying if they research before they make scathing articles.
"ignorant of game mechanics and eIrish history"
au contraire
the rest?
BLANK
PEACE MAN!
To be fair Manni, you were here for very little time before you started going on like you knew everything so...
Mr. Stanwick says that I MUST forgive him.
http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1133post1133" target="_blank">http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.a[..]t1133
Then enlighten them in a civil way mani, not by scathing them.
Grainne, I'm quite proud of being a PEACE activist, and spent alot of time on it, but I read the Irish media every day when I was in other countries.
@Digits, I've never said I wasn't once a newbie myself.
I agree with Manni & Patton - We should be giving the guy the benefit of the doubt instead of harrassing him from the off .
Benefit of the doubt? I'm only holding a man accountable for his words and deeds. Mr Stanwick has a plethora of both, some good, others not so good.
He wishes to benefit from the people of eIreland.
I have my doubts.
Irish fighting Irish?
Save it for the English 🙂
@ Donovan: I think your attack is over the top and you seem to have some deep dislike for Mr.Stanwick. I see a guy who wants to contribute to his adoptive homeland and whose prior political experience may be valuable. I seriously doubt this is part of some P.T.O.
You seem to be twisting his words to back up your own theories. This article smacks of amateurism to say the least.
"He was given citizenship by the Dail. Everyone who is given access is checked out. "
His application was not processed. Pip Kelly approved it without consent."
That's true but I wasn't even on the forum at that stage I'm a subcriber to his paper and could see all the BS he was getting in the eUS I trust him and he'll make an excellent policitan I made that call on my own judgement but I'm sure I won't regret it.
@ Pablo
I'm sorry you feel that way, truly. I welcomed Mr. Stanwick to eIreland when he arrived and added him as a friend at his request. I still welcome him.
I will not consider welcoming him into the Dáil with my vote or public support until Mr. Stanwick shows the good faith of answering for his past transgressions to the eIrish people. The list of alleged crimes includes but is not limited to;
- Plans to financially collude with enemy in the event the US fell using "Umbrella Corp"
- Treason in the form of leaking sensitive data in war time on an open network
- Desertion of his country in a time of war
You notice I say alleged, for these are not my charges. They are a matter of public record (please see http://www.eusforum.com" target="_blank">www.eusforum.com and feel free to search among other things). My only charge against Mr. Stanwick is Political Opportunism and of attempting to play the eIrish public as fools.
I'll not deny being an amateur.
I chose Ireland as my home for a reason. I am an American in the real world with Irish roots. So when I had the opportunity to participate in Erepublik and could choose whatever country I wanted to settle in, I was delighted! Of course, Ireland was my first choice.
I have found in my short time here, that the Irish people are warm, dedicated, hard working people. Heart of my heart.
I have a philosophy that one should always be given the benefit of the doubt until it is proven otherwise. And so I will do this now for Donnovan AND Chris.
Donnovan, I am sure you are a dedicated eIrish citizen, and I look forward to reading past articles and becoming more familiar with your work.
Chris,I have heard your name on the lips of many. You are newer to Erepublik as am I. However, I don't want to discount your "youth" out of hand. You have my attention, sir. I look forward to seeing what you do with it.