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Please never refer to THE PATRIOTS as "the kunts" or affiliate us together.

Secondly, we are not running a candidate. We are unsure as to who to support or to remain out of the elections.

Lastly, I would just like to state this openly.
The Patriots do not back Presidential candidates with cabinet positions in mind. We never negotiate supporting a candidate in exchange for a number of Government positions. We support candidates solely based on their qualifications to run the country.

This is to be noted.

Also V+S, nice to see some political articles about party politics 🙂

Thanks!

The party page gives MrConway as The Patriot's nomination. Are you saying he's been withdrawn?

Positions in government for other parties is a meritocracy, where the country gains the best people regardless of allegiance.

Hilarious that parties these days only support people who give their mates jobs, this is how we end up wiped....useless people get the job because they give jobs to certain parties. I have seen it so many times here.

WHS i want to also point out when you say "a bsolutely no ideology to back us supporting each other" you forget loads of the lads were in the original Labour party, a party that actually were left leaning. you all only use the name but havent a clue about its history, like doing deals with IFP who always hated Labour is proof if anyone didnt believe me.

On the phone meant to write Gerald not WHS

Lol, Sir Mc "Cool", it is not because you change name that you change what you really are. You guys are the trolls and plague of Ireland, you were so under the name kunts, you will be so under the name "patriot" (which is a very stupid party name by the way).

No Damhnaic
The party before the Patriots only had 17 members. I joined when it became the PATRIOTS along with the other 9 or 10 members. We've also openly stated what we stand for, any association with the previous party is unfair on these new members.

The core members, and the elected congressmen and the "titled" members (councilor, etc) are all the same kunts as before, so the decisions and orientations will be the same. Furthermore those 9-10 members you speak of are only your numerous multis joining your party so you are in the top 5 so you can have candidates on election day.

Horror to see cabinet positions being premeditated by party affiliation; Its even difficult to see how a leftwing ILP found common ideology with rightwing IFP. Not very big on politics, but surely both parties promote appointing ministers by merit rather than whos tune they jump too.

Well I am not Damhnaic, I personally invited numerous people into the party and they weren't multis.

@Seanan the IFP and ILP are based on a coalition of the official opposition to MUFC's government. Through party cooperation and compromise is how we plan to get things done.

Really in this game there isn't too much emphasis on political ideas. There aren't too many starving children or lack of public education. There are issues for sure. Like what alliance to join. These opinions range far and wide in every party. Parties in practice seem to be more of people who get along and less of an ideological bundle. Now I would like parties to be based on ideology but this isn't the way it works.

Also at least for the ILP positions we may place someone in there who isn't from the ILP. We just get to determine (along with the President's output) who's best for the job. I think there are some good people in all the political parties I could support for positions whether it's Bhane, MUFC or the Kurgan.

Well least thats something. Although still seems like role playing when it comes to "official opposition", would have been a better read if you posted what exactly your coalition oppose in Psych0's governance - all seems rather vague and done for the sake of it.

Voted

Comrades choose wisely

@Seanan no roleplay we work together and message each other about laws and the future of Ireland.

Feel free to publish it.

inb4patriots&saoirse&ea coalition 😛P

@Marcus: And look at some of the 'original Labour' members now, you guys embraced far-rightism and anyone willing to do that has never been a genuine Leftist. I lost lots of respect when I saw original Labour members going right-wing, it was traitorous.

Mike I always remember Labour as being pretty left and staying true to their ideology. The IFP & IUP were always at war with them over policy. I disagree with you (if we are both talking about the same Labour Party that is).

They are talking about a Labour party you never knew young man.

I played during V1 Damh so Im well aware of the original Labour party.

Oh, so you are a multi, since this isn't your first account.

No. My last account is long dead. I PM'd the admins when I started this account asking them to transfer my assets into this one, they said that was against the rules. Playing under this account isn't against the rules once the admins know about it & I do not log into my old account.

Report me for multiable accounts if you need clarity on this.

Also Damh I think you should move this conversation into a PM as it's taking away from Gerald's article.

"Really in this game there isn't too much emphasis on political ideas."

If this is true then why say this?

"absolutely no ideology to back us supporting each other"

So there is none to work with the Patriots party but there is when it comes to working with IFP who have literally zero in common with ILP.

Which is it?

You wont work with them because there is no ideology to back you supporting them, then saying you don't really think the game is focused on it?

"@Marcus: And look at some of the 'original Labour' members now, you guys embraced far-rightism"

Care to show me where we embraced that?

And don't link anything about me specifically because I was usually on the right be it EA or IFP.

I want to know why you all go on about being such a great labour party when you be all buddy buddy with the right when it comes to you all getting a minister role.

Siding with IFP and IV clearly shows the people running this party havent a breeze about Labour, they just want to create a clique in government and side with those who will give them it.

When a lot of old original Labour members joined several (made several) far-right wing parties and also started only caring about the power they gained and being dicks to everyone else.

I'll be the one to decide who is worthy of the original Labour name, considering I founded it, lead it for many months and provided the basis of its political thought.

Nice article on the whole Gerald, I like reading these kind of articles even/especially when I find things to disagree with. Congratulations to eIreland on a successful Congress elections, and a promising future.

Whether or not what I think of the people Brian Boru can sometimes associate with are traitors, I will always have respect for him and know that he is true.

@Ian thanks!

How are you left wing?

MikeBane, I am gratified to hear that

Nice work Gerald, I'm actually quite impressed with this initiative. Good to see the ILP becoming active again at the public level.

The only thing I really disagree with is the apparent lack of substantive reasons for opposing MUFC. It would be nice to know why you think someone else would be better for the country rather than just better for your party.

Either way it will be interesting to have some real competition this time around. Good luck with your search.

Stilpo, don't tempt me into entering the debate on whether MUFC is perfect or not lol

He's far from the worst President we've ever had, but he's not exactly close to the best either.

Nobody said he was perfect BB, especially when compared to the entire history of CPs in this country. But compared to the mediocrity and inactivity of the last six months his term is looking pretty good to me so far. Even if you take issue with some of his specific policy choices, at the very least he kept his administration active and kept the public informed about things. If you can find someone who can do the job even better then great. And honestly I would be interested in reading a constructively-critical article from someone like you who I know to be open-minded and analytical. But opposing someone just because they didn't appoint enough ILP members to their cabinet seems a bit petty and contrived to me. That’s all I’m saying.

"But opposing someone just because they didn't appoint enough ILP members to their cabinet seems a bit petty and contrived to me. That’s all I’m saying."

@Stilpo thanks!

"@Seanan the IFP and ILP are based on a coalition of the official opposition to MUFC's government. Through party cooperation and compromise is how we plan to get things done."

I lold irl.
http://clip2net.com/s/2EwXW IFP supported Mufc and went in opposition the same day or how was that?)

if u're an opposition, guys, why u never officially declared that you don't like that, that and that and suggest that, that and that. Isn't that the way opposition works?) Or did I miss anything? work is based on actions not on writing how hard you work.

I think people are able to compare terms of ILP representative and Saoirse one. so choose really wisely.

oh, and thank you, Gerald. u made my day again and now I'm thinking about changing parties xD

V, S + Poll taken.

I still don't get this congressional coalition.

Conway all you need to know is you are not invited

Comprenez vous?

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@whs

Why you're working so hard on political games man, why don't you admit that this term is at least twice better then all ILP terms together? Playing with votes on political level is dangerous, when you working to beat someone just because he's from other party and not because of his bad work then you lose support of your people. I know you'd like to be back in power, but people choosed otherwise now and we moved to better. Now you're not supporting better, but you're making coalitions to beat the better and get back to worse.

That's how you lose support from people of your party who realise actual situation.

Psych0, we GONNA GET YA

Dear god.

Needs more Vyse

@MikeBane

Why?

http://prntscr.com/ng6zf

I thought it's about who'll do the job best? Well nice to see ur back to changing opinion every second day 😁

OJ is right, needs more Vyse

@MUFC You've done a good job no doubt and I like you much better than some of the other trolls in your party but Mike & I think there are other people (namely Brian) who can do much better.

"Why you're working so hard on political games man, why don't you admit that this term is at least twice better then all ILP terms together? "

Second part is most certainly true...

also

"OJ is right, needs more Vyse"

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