[DC] On Adriatica
Don Croata
Taking another day off today and taking the chance to write an article about a very serious topic which has been rumbling through my head for some time. Several months ago I’ve came up with an idea that Croatia should found an alliance, write its rules and invite their friends to join and follow those rules which would be the same for everyone. Maybe it sounds different than any other alliance founding process, but in the start it was working very well. The alliance has been founded and its name is Adriatica. One of the major world’s alliances today.
Alliance rules
Maybe I could copy/past the whole alliance charter in here, but it would be better for the purpose of the article to highlight the rules we’ve consider the most important ones. All the rules in the Charter was made for a very good reason. To understand them you should understand that ‘our side’ ie. Croatia was on weaker side for a pretty long time. There was no alternative to that state until the founding of Adriatica. The main rule is ‘Coordinated strike rule’. It basicly means that every member of the alliance should choose a person responsible for leading their national’s Coordinated strikes. In the beginning this strategy has proven to be very effective against bigger enemy such as Asteria. We’ve had very successful run of battles. Considering our first members/pro-members were smaller countries it was actually a big surprise for everyone. Croatia has been on top of its activity, it’s been the start of spring and zdlemmy has already done a very good job organising those strikes for ZNG, Croatian National MU. When other countries started to organise their own strikes it was beautiful to watch.
Second rule was ‘National MU’. Having all the people in the same MU has so many pros and really not more than few cons. National MU would be led by the same guy who organises national strikes. National MU would mean that everyone would follow the same prios. We’d only need few active people to change DO’s and we’d have all citizens of the country fighting in the same battle. Seven countries would mean seven people and same DO. It’s very effective. It was all about damage distribution, since our damage size wasn’t nearly enough to cope with the stronger sides such as Asteria (especially considering their organisation). When we had few National MU’s with the same DO and hold national strike we would be very hard to beat even against stronger alliance with CO’s on their side.
As you can see those rules has worked perfectly until one point. Resource Wars.
Downfall of the Alliance
When Plato introduced Resource wars it seemed like a great fun. And ultimately it was. I mean, we’ve had some good battles and had a good laugh. For the first few days. After that it was a torture. All the countries has been working for their own resources and there’s been tons of training wars. For one month alliances has stopped functionating. Not just Adriatica, but the rest of them too. The difference is that Asteria and others started to functionate again after the event, while Adriatica stopped entirely. The lack of communication has been killing the young alliance from its beginnings. Somewhere before the event the HQ of the alliance has decided to establish better bonds with Syndicate. It was an alliance made of Greece, Turkey, Brazil and Argentina. While some of them was enemies with some of our members the rest of Adriatica members were already in good relations with S. Now, we’ve had serious lack of communication, we’ve been befriending an aliance half of our members disliked and no one has been following the main rules of the alliance.
Vettell took charge of Adriatica and tried to change things, but it seemed impossible. The lack of communication has became the main problem. Countries would propose NE and make plans without even informing the HQ and its not how an alliance can work. It’s not even the alliance. In this case it’s just group of countries using PM to come and say “Help us”. For the you won’t need an alliance. I’ll mention the other problems again in this article, but in my opinion this was the main one. Countries stopped consulting with the alliance, because in the start of the alliance they used to work on their own for the resource wars.
Diplomacy issues
Basicly, Adriatica is an alliance made by Croatia. All Croatian friends were invited. Literally everyone. The problem has started when the alliance had to choose someone to work with. Since Asteria was the main enemy, they wasn’t even taken into consideration. Some countries such as Ireland, Chile and Venezuela had a strong friendship with Bulgaria, Macedonia and Russia. The other countries such as Georgia, Croatia and Italy had better relations with Greeks and Turks. It was the trouble starter. Alliance has chosen to go with Syndicate which caused some troubles for us internally. Those who like BG/MKD was unhappy. It was the time when I personally moved to Ireland because of this. I didn’t want to interfere anymore since I couldn’t do it for personal reasons. I guessed it’s the best I can do to help Adriatica since I was kinda known for being proMKDBG. I’ve let others make decisions and lead the alliance. It was a good decision, Vettell did best he could.
Alliance has decided that all the members must drop BG/MKD MPP’s and that was done very fast actually. Ireland, Chile and Venezuela asked to be allowed to sign them and alliance has allowed that. Everyone respected it. Now, the two main problems happened after it. Syndicate should’ve drop their Asteria MPP’s too, at least that was to be expected since we did the same thing. We would understand some exceptions of course. On the other side MKD and BG has realized what’s happening and they’ve signed a lot of Asteria MPP’s. Asterian/Serbian diplomacy worked very well and has just replaced their Syndicate MPP’s with BG and MKD, which proved to be the best thing to do since they’ve got Spain on their side with this move too. The lack of communication and decision making issues has made this even bigger problem for Adriatica members.
Since BGMKD moved entirely to proAsteria side all Adriatica members were asked to drop their MPP’s. And that’s what happened. What didn’t happened is Syndicate dropping all Asteria MPPs. This is where we, as an alliance lost every chance to be competitive. With MKD and BG being fully on Asteria side it’s only natural to expect that Syndicate and Adriatica will start to cooperate entirely, but it didn’t happened neither. It seems like the communication between two alliances is on very low level. I’m not that involved anymore, so I can’t say this with a certainity, but that’s how it seems from the outside.
Quo Vadis?
The coming days will be a huge test for Adriatica. Either we’re going to have a fresh start again. Just like we had when we were founding an alliance or we’re going to dissolve our alliance. There’s no third option. Even Vettell, the guy who has been giving one of the greatest efforts I’ve seen in this game has been slowly giving up of things. What all the members of Adriatica should understand is that we’re either gonna restore our rules and start following them again, or we’re going to end up suffering and losing all the battles.
There is no alternative anymore except to stay and give its best for the alliance, for friends. The World is now more bipolar than ever in the last few years and love it or hate it you’re going to have to pick a side. Maybe it’s the perfect time to start something new now, in the end of summer and beginning of new academic year. Probably the most important things in Erepublik has happened in this time of the year. Let’s take a use of it and organize ourselves as we was already organized once. It’s all up to members. Either you’re going to be part of the group and give your best for it or you’re gonna leave/be kicked for not following the rules. I hope it won’t be necessary to help such drastic steps, but the alliance is either gonna work or be dissolved.
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Comments
Well said.
o7
ups.. wrong article.. looked for some porn... 😛
o7
Aye, Communication and Activity are hugely important for any alliance to work. I can tel from personal experience that the less activity there is, the less communication is possible. Every alliance would suffer from inactive and uncommunicate members. PLUTO has similar problems, but I hope that with the new governments these things change. I don't know if it's RL issues or just because it is Summer but an alliance can't really work if the members don't communicate with each other and the HQ.
Summer is the greatest power in this world... it makes some countries unable to even form a proper goverment xD.
You need an alliance born out of necessity, not a best friends club.
Good bye!
Where you goin' bro?
Jijiji
o7 🙂
Good article, say everything
You made the world how it is.
You pushed the countries where they are.
Bulgaria, Macedonia and Spain had literally a huge amount of players that did not want to go to Serbia, that considered Croatia friendly and etc... but you choosed Greece, a country that has been surviving for years because keep ties in both sides. Add Argentina, another country that needs ties in all sides to survive and there you go... an alliance of countries that cannot stand without foreign support.
Strategy is so simple as hell... Asteria had won the northern balkans and most of central Europe. The only way to counter it was uniting the southern balkans in a single side and give Poland and Hungary the chance to change sides. That was the only way to defeat Asteria, because Asteria main flaw is they survive only because Hungary and Poland are "beated" into submission.
But your political agenda isnt the same than Syndicate, so everything you do is deemed to fail.
If by "You" you mean on me personally than you know absolutely nothing about what's has been going on. Aside from that, I agree with you, but it's too late now.
English is a very poor and limited language, i meant your whole alliance.
But Ireland played a good part too though:
http://i.imgur.com/kwTv3C2.png
(Just a single one, but there were more) Never forgive, never forget.
Then I can agree with that.
I assume "you" refers to Croatia
"give Poland and Hungary the chance to change sides." we gave them a chance, but they declined, only way to turn the things around is Pacifica going against Asteria, but so far USA and Latvia are the only ones who've shown at least some kind of effort to change things
You did not gave Poland and Hungary any reason to change sides, therefore its deemed to fail.
ustedes estan en la cuerda
Nosotros siempre estamos en la cuerda Hitman \o/
whats wrong with having 3 sides
Two sides always ally against one side and then you got two sides again.
The problem is in this situation there should have been four alliances and two sides, with two of those alliances sharing some mixed ties.
i wasnt clear enough 😃
i love 3 sides
I'm always up for a threesome, but most of the time it doesn't happen 😛
idk man, I'd love to play this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_sided_football
same :3
o7
"The World is now more bipolar than ever"
I don't think this is true.
Everyone is trying to have friends in both sides, no one wants to burn all bridges.
Asteria reaching out to MKD and BG was a clever and necessary step, but very very late. I mean we were pushing for that move for over a year, as Greece was hostile for a long time with the alliance, but the proEDEN lobby still tried to have good relations with Greece despite everything...
And they did some very serious steps in order to reach this goal of theirs, i don't even know if the public knows about the details of the serbian coup in 2016 january. (I didn't really watch the international articles at the time.)
Anyway, with pacifica winking at the other side a good ol' Asteria gangbang could have come (which was stopped by Hungary and Poland, the proAsteria guys who never got any gratitude 🙁 ), and Asteria feeling the danger went with this plan. They still left like 3 months, when if Pacifica decided so, everyone would've gone at them, so you're welcome I guess. Enjoy winning everything but don't forget how close it was. Next time we recommend something, please consider it, instead of just thinking "hurr durr hungary crying".
Oops, why am I even writing this to you? 😮
sry man, i just never found the place to say this out loud I guess 😃
"hurr durr hungary crying"
😛 😁)
something something RoHun eternal
Hey guys,we need to make a common start
Disolve
Btw great article, but your so called alliance need big change. Aurora was born dead, but this alliance is dead since you came up with this idea. And doing USA style " You WONT SIGN WITH COUTRY A,B,C " is the worst alliance order you can have. But you choose to listen Croatia and i don't know how you listen Georgia, but you do it. I still remember how we used to give people packs if they win lower divisions in Venezuela, how we used to help Mexico to have congress. About Ireland and Chile i can talk a lot. And now you have totaly blind goverments and you don't deserve such an ally like us 😛
" i don't know how you listen Georgia" - and where are you getting this sir old?
tl;dr zdlemmy didnt invest money, everything went wrong.
expected.
/thread closed
DISOLVE
Lets join all countrys to Asteria😁)
All problems will be resolved...
Your problem isn't Adriatica.
Main problem is alliance of traitor named Syndicate.
In future probably Forever Alone Syndicate.
Learn from history.
After losing, you see what you lost 🙂
Hope you learned an lesson from this, it's not just "Hurraaa lets make an alliance"
Somebody has to have will to work on it and you just explained the will of all of your members 🙂
Honestly i was looking forward to see this alliance doomed and dead, didn't know would be so soon !
working on that......
just working on that!!
😃
It's hard without zdlemmy... 🙂
To be honest... from Asteria you should wash your mouths before talking about him. He invested his money without wanting anything back. He is a good guy and probably a good alliance leader, but neither he or Colin are allmighty...
To be honest, you should wash your mouth before discussing my opinion about zdlemmy.
A good guy is the one who offers cc to rape a girl who kicked his ass? I think not.
Raul i know you can do it better... i gave you arguments about why he is a good ally... on the other side well... he must be painfull because when he made strikes, teams and put CO's he definetly caused a lot of havoc. But you must agree that he is the symbol of a good ally.
@Bogi i dont know about that. But i think someone who spends that much money on the game would have better ways to get what he wants instead of asking in a game someone to do that...
Lord Doel, you understood backwords. I do have a good opinion about zdlemmy and myrmid0nas. others...
no money no love
https://youtu.be/9zqQvMNUvJI
Well dont know about zdlemmy, but actually since Colin stopped wasting his money for your battles you cant win a shit...
No Colin - no win - no fun!
And you and everybody else need to understand one simple thing: whoever is going shoulder to shoulder with Greece he has Bg and MKD for enemies! Its about damn time to rethink is it Greece the better call or not?! Greece is very strong while they have tons of energy bars and they dont lose their bonuses, but when their EBs are gone and they lose some RWs... Greece getting selfish and start playin for their own! While Bulgaria and Macedonia are used to be deleted for a while and we dont mind to stay w/o bonuses, but in the end to achieve our goals! And we always and i mean absolutely always manage to achieve our goals! Just remember how long we (Bg and MKD) had war with Greece last year, till Greece was erased and they agreed for 3side NAP...
it's not as though we didn't try to keep our allegiance with Bulgaria.
we've had strong ties with you for 1/2 a decade.
but you guys should understand that while you are very good at being an ally, you are even better at maintaining an enemy... love you to death, but you're about as flexible as plate glass.
can't even remember an alliance controversy BG wasn't somehow in the middle of. Going all the way back to EDEN mate.
and it is not fair for you to act as though we fooked off.
PEACE, PENIX, ONE, TWO, w/e-dafuq name it's going by, we have ALWAYS stood on the other side. it's you folks that are complicating shit.
Yes, you have a point. And there is one simple reason - Turkey! We hate them and we cant be on same side with them! Its that simple. If someone want to be our ally... that one cant be even friend with Turkey or will lose us! Thats why we are doing so much controversy. Always someone of our friends or allies at some point want to be with us and with Turkey and screwing everything.
We were in Phoenix... Turkey was one of the founders, so we had to leave. We went in EDEN and then Romper screwed us because of Turkey. Even our great brotherhood with Chile was damaged because of Turkey, when Chile signed with them! Its like to be a friend at same time with Macedonia and Greece! That cant happen - you have to pick one of them, but you simply CANT have both of them. So its same with us and Turkey. If you want us then you forget about Turkey, no matter how strong they are, no matter how much influence they have. And if you pick them instead of us even just for 1 second... for us that it is equal to treachery and we cant accept this and here comes the problems and the controversy.
And i dont get it why it is so hard people to understand and remember this... Actually even not need to understand it, you just have to accept it, just like you accept the fact that everyday the Sun rises from the east.
Now about Bg-Ireland - because of Turkey (what a surprise)... with Croatia from great allies and friends we became furious enemies. So if you want to be with Cro, you cant be with us. And thats only because Cro is going hand by hand with... Turkey. So when you guys jumped in Adriatica... what do you expected from us? We flew for you guys, to help you to get your freedom, when noone else was willing to help you. Cro saw great opportunity and they hit very hard for you in our AS. In the end Ireland got their freedom and you guys joined Adriatica and dropped our mpp when Cro told you... Tell me how you would feel if you was on our place?! Disappointed? For sure...
We had Turkey in 2014/15 while you called us an ally, was it fake? 😃