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Yes for NMU as soon as possible.

Great article Speaker of HoC o7

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David Bacon?

You sir, officially win the "Rumpelstiltskin award". However there is no actual prize, and I'm not sure they will add a medal for it any time soon so my apologies for your wasted endeavour.

no to the NMU cos it demands my minority give up their homeland

I've told you, we are not taking your homeland, bombing your villages or eating your babies... we are giving you freedom! God bless NMU! Let's make eUK great again!

tell that to my 5 kids who got naplamed 😢

This seems overly vague - how will the MU work, what existing MUs will merge, what will the leadership look like?

Its vague because its only intended to last for ten days, to get the ball rolling until a much larger and more detailed bill is presented to the next congress.

As stated in the bill, the leadership of the MU in the beginning to get the MU set up, will be appointed by the CP. A small level of funding will be provided so that a supply system can be set up and the factories can begin making weapons.

As for the final proposal for the MU as a whole, it will be as the New Military Plan stated, with only minor tweaks.

And tbf the bill isn't vague at all- its very specific about what its intention is and the measures it takes

"what existing MUs will merge" So far the only MU that has said for sure they will be joining wholescale is Nifty.

As the New Military Plan said the NMU will be designed to work alongside other MUs and attract fighters largely on an individual basis, not replace all existing MUs.

Can we see more details on how you came up with 250k a month to fund the Unit?

Also, if we're passing a bill now, why not make it the real thing and allow next month's congress to repeal it if they want? I don't see the point in pussy-footing around with kind of, sort of, maybe funding it now and then making the next congress deal with passing the real bill. Either this congress is legitimate or it isn't; if it is, then let's pass the full thing with two months of funding; if it isn't, we shouldn't be passing 50k of funding and risking the whole thing collapsing if next month's congress isn't motivated to run with it.

I'm generally in favor of setting up a NMU and would hate to see it die because it wasn't properly implemented - that will just bring a few more years of "well we tried this once and it failed because it was badly executed so the idea MUST be a bad one."

I'm in favour of a NMU - I think we need to try something a little different to what we've been doing and this could be just what eUK needs to liven the country up a bit, because let's be frank - things have got pretty stagnant.

Good point from Jiminy - make it for real unless repealed, otherwise nobody will want to move to it. No sense going somewhere for 10 days, only to have to revitalise an old MU if the new one fails. The concept is good but it will require a lot of people buying into it.

No idea where 250k p/m is coming from. Surely this assumes a huge membership? How much in terms of weapon capacity will the unit have as a whole per day? Are you planning to buy weapons straight from the market or something? As I really cannot see how we would ever need to commit 250k a month just to buy WRM.

I support jamesw on the questions he has raised. They need answering before any public funds are committed to a NMU.

In additional I feel if public funds are going to be spent on a NMU, there needs to be a commitment from the citizen or citizens responsible for spending the funds to release weekly reports on how any public money has been spent (ie what WRM / Weapons has been purchased, when and from who... which citizens has been supplied, with what supplies and when etc etc). This commitment needs to be legislated for and powers need to be granted to Congress to withhold funding if it becomes unclear on how public money is being spent.

The NMU if it does go ahead cannot be a large ambiguous expense on our tax payers.

Overall I have failed to be convinced that there is a need or there is a significant public demand for a NMU.

"In additional I feel if public funds are going to be spent on a NMU, there needs to be a commitment from the citizen or citizens responsible for spending the funds to release weekly reports on how any public money has been spent (ie what WRM / Weapons has been purchased, when and from who... which citizens has been supplied, with what supplies and when etc etc). This commitment needs to be legislated for and powers need to be granted to Congress to withhold funding if it becomes unclear on how public money is being spent."

This will, obviously, be in the final bill.

"I have failed to be convinced that there is a need or there is a significant public demand for a NMU."

Both the questionnaires that Rathena and Cheetah did came back with a strong majority for wanting to join a national MU.

The final act will specify that no money can be spent unless a specific breakdown of the spending is approved.

i.e when the MU wants to take money from the budget set aside for the NMU they have to get a funding request approved by congress- for example if the MU Command wants to spend 90k on buying 40k WRM a day to supply just one additional q7 factory, they would then have to show how the supplies produced will be used, and how many players would be supplied with it.


Other significant expenses would be providing 100% WT rebates to suppliers, on the companies that they use to provide supplies. This is part of the incentivising people to join the national MU.

When the time comes to actually request the money to be used, full detail will be spelled out.

There is no need for debate, the NMU must be called Sex Pistols

The Woldy's Angels Act has come into effect as the eUK Treasury holds a surplus of 300,000cc. 100,000cc is required to be passed to a trusted eUK citizen for safe-keeping. However our 4 trusted citizens are already holding 100,000cc each and we have no further citizens on our trusted citizens list.

We need some more candidates I'd be interested in hearing from my fellow members of Congress on suggested citizens who could be put forward as a candidate.

As a reminder... "A candidate must receive 5 congressional sponsors with at least two different parties represented within the 5; when this happens their candidacy will be put to a simple majority vote involving the whole of Congress + the CP."

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Appleby?

Appleby sponsored

*appears with a empty swag bag*

Appleby sponsored

Me and I am sponsoring CC

Government National Military Bill withdrawn and replaced by the full Defence Bill.

Whats the full Defence Bill?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J8rm4gjrZawhIGcrjy_naTCQT_zDLvV_25hua4qcWBI/edit

Rather than influencing selection, any committee powers should focus on oversight.

I disagree. The National MU is designed to be a joint venture between the executive and congress, not just a department of the MoD

A bad idea, nothing more

like your conception

Are you projecting your hard childhood with your dad?

nah fam projectors are far too expensive

it's a shit idea, but people with no brain like u can't understand why

What's the point of spending money for 10 days and then repealing the bill?

I think you misread somewhere. Regardless, the bill on offer has been altered to be the full, permanent bill now.

Considering since I have joined the game all UK governments have hardy given any of its fighters weapons to fight and now the government and the same mod Sambo for about a 8 months wants 250,000 a month to run a national MU, I find this a real insult to all the units and all the fighters why should we depend on you when in the past you have show us the fighters no respect what so ever this is just grab for more power and control by certain members who think they own the UK by how they have juggle party politics around. If they cared they would have supported units a long time ago apart from giving back a tiny % of work tax back, Guess what we are wiped and you see it time and time again the UK government keep money saved us and don't spend it on combat orders or give the units or fighters weapons to fight it , its all left to the units, this is why I would not trust many old faces of the government with a normal unit let a national unit they want funds for, just take a look at the old Legion they had 300 members and it just went to rot and these same players were playing then.

" If they cared they would have supported units a long time ago apart from giving back a tiny % of work tax back"

Tiny %? You mean 50% of their entire work tax bill back. That's not tiny- not our fault legion threw their toys out of the pram and decided not to take the rebate.

"Guess what we are wiped and you see it time and time again the UK government keep money saved us and don't spend it on combat orders or give the units or fighters weapons to fight"

This is literally a system to spend money and weapons on eUK fighters

"Just take a look at the old Legion they had 300 members and it just went to rot and these same players were playing then."

Name me one player who was involved in the running of legion and is involved with the running of this proposed National MU. There aren't any.

Many players get reborn so it would be hard to say who ANYONE is. cough cough Billy Randell ,The fact is since I have played no government has never given MU commanders say 1000 tanks to fight in a battle, Legion will stay independent this is why we don't want government hands out we support ourselves like the majority of the units in the game, nothing to do with toys in pram as you would like to make out, if you want a system to spend on UK fighters all you have to do is go into the rankings and see all the UK fighters and how much damage they do, making a national MU will do no difference to UK damage, the real reason is so a couple of you can feel more in control the same couple of you have never created a large MU, the same couple of you always in these high powered government jobs, the same couple who moved into a private MU, what happen to the MU Nifty? you could have started it from that unit?

If legion doesn't want to join the NMU en masse, then don't. The Bill specifically allows units to stay independent if they wish.

I never really understand what point you are trying to make Harry

I'm confused - you're unhappy that the government hasn't given weapons to fighters in the past so now that they want to give weapons to fighters you're against it?

If you are confused see a Councillor. Government can give Unit tanks

I can see why that would be good for you, since you run a MU, but how would that be better for the general populace? I'd rather see my tax dollars be spent by people selected by my duly elected representatives than by people selected on the basis that they happen to run a MU.