What is "Unity"?
orangejuicemmm
I've been logging into eRepublik for almost 4 years now and I'm living proof that not everyone on the internet (bar Facebook and the likes) is a basement dweller. I have, as they say, been around the block. Starting my career as a whipper-snapper in the IFP, to founding the first Republican Party in eIreland to helping establish the first Leftist party in eIreland, to founding the Irish Army to running the most successful eIrish Military unit the ICA and now finally, being an all round pest to people with a much smaller brain than myself.
It's been fun and not so fun from month to month, year to year but through-out my years as an eirish citizen one thing has remained at the forefront of eIrish society, politics, military, heck even every aspect and that has been Conflict
It was there when I first joined in the form of the old ISRP vs IUP Party situation. The reasons for the conflict was largely down to politics. IUP representing the right and ISRP representing the left. Other things factored into this dispute but that was largely just personal squabbles. Nothing of any real substance.
As a side to this split in eIreland you had your "trolls" in the form of the "great" Mannimarco and Padraig Pearse who represented the "dark side" and then, I would say, your "anti-trolls" in the shape of Grainne (and her puppets) Kolshire and pretty much the rest of the eIreland. Of course with the anti-trolls claiming the high ground there wasn't much ground for these "troll"s to stand on and they became pretty much irrelevant.
As time went on another conflict emerged, one of much more importance. This one was about our relations with our neighbours to the east and who should have control over Northern eIreland. Nowadays the idea that NI should be eIrish is normal enough and relatively accepted but back then it was like shooting yourself in the foot with a digital RPg politically. Countless "newbs" who joined the game where scared off by the "Northern Ireland for the British" brigade largely ran by citizens who have since left our eIsland. Thousands of posts on forums, articles, etc on this topic were had until slowly the idea of eIreland owning Northern Ireland wasn't as shunned upon. Debates still raged, arguments were had and nothing was solved. Standard right?
After the acceptance of Republicanism into eIreland there was still another major conflict to be had right around the corner. The idea of Communism was on everybody's lips in no time and once again the eIrish community was at war. On the right side you had Castaneda and the old IUP guard holding up the nooses (He had a relatively big business selling weapons on the black market) and then on the left you had the newly founded Labour Party spear headed by the Red Menace (
😉) himself irishbhoy1967 and Brian Boru. This little conflict took a year maybe more to be "resolved" with the left eventually "winning" out after the introduction of Communes into everyday life. Simply, the right couldn't justify their position and so politically the Left rose to power. Electing our first Country president and for one month securing a 51% majority in congress (thanks to yours truly). This back then was a mjor major deal. It was the beginning of a new era in eIreland, it was the re-beginning of everything nearly. Everybody on our side was happy whilst everyone on their side wasn't but It still wasn't over..
Due to the success of the the Labour Party on leftist ideals the Irish Citizen Army sprang to prominence almost over night. Many young, active members joined and helped with the cause. It became world wide renowned for it's efficiency and power regardless of the weak individual strength of the unit. The weapons were provided, the best food was provided and money and support followed closely by. It was Red heaven but still the whole of eIreland refused to listen and follow in our example and so the greatest rivalry of my time evolved. The ICA vs IDF. The last stand for many. Nithraldur, Castaneda , Donovan Thomas, etc poured all of their time and effort into making sure that the IDF remained in existence. With it's continued existence the IDF provided weapons to citizen through taxes provided by the state without any requirement work or even enforcement of orders. It was quickly becoming out-dated, useless and it was renowned for being extremely inefficient as an army. Even with all the negatives around the IDF and all the positives around the ICA they were at a dead-lock until a new wave of citizen helped re-shape eIreland military. Celtictiger and Marcus Suridius. They together recognised the failures of the IDF and the positives of the ICA but understood exactly why there could never just be one or the other and so they along with a lot of the ICA leadership began the plans to create the Irish Army. A very tedious and time consuming operation which required a lot of tact. But eventually the IDF was abolished and the IA was founded. Many of the old IDF guard never got over it and soon went on to be completely irrelevant.
And now we come to pretty much present time. After the ICA experiencing a very successful stint in control of this country we backed off during the summer (We had real lives) the emergence of the ILP. After some disastrous terms as the helm we "came back" and started basically pointing our exactly what was going wrong using our own colourful language to do it. This was probably the least interesting conflict I've experienced in all my time. So far it's basically just been..ILP f**k up, we curse and tell them they're retards, they don't listen to us, make up some bull and tell as many people as they can and repeat. All very mundane.
The point of this article, other than to make a few personal jabs, is to show eIreland that we've never had unity. We've never had peace, It just not something we do here on this Island and I just want to say that this isn't a problem. The lack of unity isn't a problem.
Right now we have a Country President who was elected on the premise that he would bring Unity to eIreland. Do we have Unity on eIreland..heck no! Has there ever been a CP who has promised Unity before..heck yes!..Has a president ever succeeded in bringing unity to eIreland? Not even close.
MUFC has made minimal attempts to build bridges he even went as far to say he was elected to bring Unity against the "kunts". He openly admitted that the rest of the country was in Unity against the Kunts. I laughed at the time. Was p funny.
Ireland has achieved great things while not at unity. Most of the enjoyable moments I spent on this game was when unity was as far as away as possible. Unity is not fun. Unity isn't going to happen.
That's about it (+ a bit of a history lesson)
-OJ
P.S If you are not an ally of eIreland and would like to buy weapons off me send me a message and we can work out some sort of deal
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P.S.S One major difference I've noticed between Then and Now is the quality of arguments. Back then you had Sean power, Darragh O F, Digits, Brian Boru, Irishbhoy, Kolshire, Nith, Top Gun, Aran Tal, DT, Dubhthaigh and a lot more going head to head. Right now there is no one even close to being on the same level as any of those when it comes to having an arguments with actual proper facts and substance. Nowadays you can argue when you're completely in the wrong and still win just because Death and Taxes, WHS, Coleman, MUFC, etc can't form a substantial argument using facts.
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All I can say is that I honestly wanted unity before my term, I'll always want unity in eIreland, after my terms aswell.
It's also impossible to have unity without mutual understanding as it's hard to accomplish with certain people. I'm probably one of them, but be sure that Kunts are ones of them aswell. Not all tho, but those in charge for sure.
When you have two fires on two sides outcome can't be nothing else then fire. I guess it's in our nature, and I'm surprised how we get along so well in past. When you guys pick someone to troll and constantly annoy you're good in it, but you forgot I'm good in that aswell.
Just to add cuz I think this article with gather many people over the night.
1. IGNORE WEXFORD
2. RATIFICATION VOTE CONSIDERING CUA IS HAPPEN TOMMOROW AND IT WILL LAST FOR 48 HOURS
Hail all sides of Ireland as long as we want good for Ireland, unfortunatly recently that wasn't case and I hope you will realise it 🙂
Not many will comment because they have nothing to say.
"unfortunatly recently that wasn't case and I hope you will realise it"
😁 right back at you man
Seriously?
I tried to reason with you several times before all of this kicked off and you basically ignored me. When I publicly criticized you in the congress thread instead of continuously trying to reason with you in private you got defensive and started stirring this hole thing up.
I'm not claiming I had no part of it, far from it, I played one of the biggest roles in these recent arguments.
We tried to reason with you, you refused to reason, as a result we were force to try to get you to do stuff properly by going public with it and criticizing you.
Jesus Christ...
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Well tbh we're closer to South America then Europe looking regions. ah well it's same actually...
Two regions between us and SA
Two regions between us and Europe
also the European alliance some of us were interested has told us publicly to bugger off
MUFC does have a point there in terms of geographical closeness... eRepublik is bogey like that.
Ahh the old days, how they are missed ;_;
Noone would miss you tho
/had to proof article cause
Lol ur not irish bro. So stop acting like u are. All true irish no what ur like
I never claimed I'm Irish, I'm proud on my RL and eR citizenship bro.
in this game he is bigger Irishmen than you ever will be...
lol'd so much i nearly pissed my self
Mr jack he's not. He's a croat
Brings a slight tear to my eye.
Incompetence has been something that has run rampant in eIreland in the past and the worst type of incompetence is when somebody is so oblivious to how incompetent they are.
Sounds like the ILP to me
MUFU is a candidate
Welcome back niall bro
missed me? xoxox
Ofc xxx
Niall! \o/
>Right now there is no one even close to being on the same level as any of those when it comes to having an arguments with actual proper facts and substance.
Thank you very much for that. ;_; Fairly sure I point out facts and even prove the facts continuously in pretty much every argument I make. ;_;
Huehue, jks, get your point.
Anyway, class article, good stuff man.
I'm talking about "them". We've remained competent in our arguments through-out.
Not to mention government.
"Nowadays you can argue when you're completely in the wrong and still win just because Death and Taxes, WHS, Coleman, MUFC, etc can't form a substantial argument using facts."
Not true. It's actually thing that noone don't wanna fight with you anymore. You became too irrelevant to take anyones time. You keep writing and use some bad propaganda and think you done it very well and you actually haven't accomplished anything by all those long posts and things that made you so proud. True story bro.
And no, I want even respond on your response cuz I don't give a f*ck
won't *
That the point, it's not bad propaganda. You lot just say it is so you don't have to reply.
If that's make you feel better..
Strong retard
Fantastic article man, a good few things I forgot from this 😃
You also forgot who robbed eIreland?
huehuehue
Don't get mad if I don't reply on ur reply. I don't find it pointless..
find* damnit
A perfect example of my P.S.S..thanks for proving me correct yet again.
Check congress elections results, that shows you how good ur propaganda articles are. 17% and ur RL Irish here, you're old players and you can't get more then 17%?? You must been doing it wrong.
Sawc and Nogin, members of the ILP and the IFP respectively.
I'd like to see you prove me wrong using facts and not just accusations.
Go ahead, give it a shot. 🙂
@MUFC That's completely irrelevant to anything I've said in the Comment thread. You're embarrassing.
MUFC just because we are RL Irish doesn't mean we get more votes, not everyone in our party is RL Irish.
Also since your not the brightest ill point it out, don't you think not all them votes EA got was for Saoirse members, EA had a great reputation as a party in Ireland., they always get a few votes from people here.
We don't multi and/or get our votes from a base consisting of a vast majority of inactive two clickers who stopped caring ages ago and only stick around in the party due to older days, hence the congressional outcome.
Try to prove me wrong please. 🙂
If that what makes you feel better...
MUFC its been a fact since before you have come here.
History is easily forgotten in eRepublik...
as a newer player, there are times I wish folks would leave the past in the past and look at the current situation. all the arguing over who's granny screwed who's goat is irritating and non productive
The past has relevence in the present, and forgetting (or allowing ignorance of) the past struggles of our country would be deeply unwise.
that might suit a few people just fine xdxd
I have to say that even I'm not biggest fan on MUFC you guys are doing it so wrong that you lost any support you had so far.
Why?
Seriously here
Precursor to unity: acceptance that your personal achievements are irrelevant once you stop logging in, or once your achievements become obsolete, and the only thing you will take away is the moments you shared with your e-friends.
Unity: A belief that everyone should be given the opportunity to involve themselves towards sharing the glorious, heartbreaking and proud moment of being eIrish.
Good effort, the article illustrates the issues which have historically and currently stopped it. Remember arguing with Ibhoy's opinion that in this game (with a bit of reference to rl) that there is no such thing as unity/compromise, only a winner and a loser (Against all the teachings of Dioism ;__😉; the irony that OJ has called Cast et al the "Old Guard", while more recently "Old Guard" is being applied to the Labour movement and those involved in the beginning of the New Era period (thanks for der mention). You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain?
The hubris here is the same which, what OJ calls the, "Old Guard" showed to the upcoming Labour. I mean, Winston is rather ironic of the rise of the ILP, he views in congress has been alot of the time saying how the rules and regulations aren't held in game mech - ironic leader of the main opposition to Labour - showing characteristically a trait and strength of the old Labour. Its like roles reversing with new faces. Obviously there are major differences between the groups, in terms of experience and manners but fundamentally its the same predictable power struggle between the established and the new - New Labour might not have noticed that they have been considered the established party until the last few months. I think thats some nice perceptive.
p.s. huge achievement of the parties involved in establishing the Army and introducing state communes - but those achievements began relics near two years ago - they are proud moments to be remembered, glorious moments but have as much significance as putting previous titles in a signature. The Army's success, despite the ICA reformance over a year ago, are very much a continuous perceivance from those who involved; part of my point that there is no winner and loser.